Mark Wheeler

[Whileee]

Let's all remember the Bruins traded Wheeler.

Let's also remember that the Bruins traded Seguin.

 

[ihadtochangethename]

he's back!

 

[ps241]

That is complete oversimplification of the process but also not true.

If you rate scoring chances as greater than shots you will still not find a major reason to be concerned about Wheeler. (PS Scoring chances are tracked and discussed)

This was an important post at the time coming out of November!! .

Blake's biggest challenge is that he plays for a fan base that expects him to be a PPG player and dominate every night.

His challenge is that when he is "on" he can dominate but no player in the NHL is "on “every night. His body language projects when he is down on himself as well which is red meat for the haters. For some reason Blake seems to be held to a different standard that Little and Ladd or is that just my imagination? Feels like for the most part the fans on this board are never satisfied with Wheeler unless he is on a hot streak? Not that any of this matters really just an observation.

I have noticed lately Blake is spending more time in front of the net providing screens and looking for the dirty goals or tip ins. I don't recall that being part of his game in the first two seasons here?

Glad he is on a roll right now because he is one of the guys that loves being a Jet.

 

[Grind]

This was an important post at the time coming out of November!! .

Blake's biggest challenge is that he plays for a fan base that expects him to be a PPG player and dominate every night.

His challenge is that when he is "on" he can dominate but no player in the NHL is "on “every night. His body language projects when he is down on himself as well which is red meat for the haters. For some reason Blake seems to be held to a different standard that Little and Ladd or is that just my imagination? Feels like for the most part the fans on this board are never satisfied with Wheeler unless he is on a hot streak? Not that any of this matters really just an observation.

I have noticed lately Blake is spending more time in front of the net providing screens and looking for the dirty goals or tip ins. I don't recall that being part of his game in the first two seasons here?

Glad he is on a roll right now because he is one of the guys that loves being a Jet.

exactly!

It's kind of hilarious actually when you think about it.



"Damnit, Wheelers only on pace for 55 points!"

....welll we are only paying him like a 60 point player...

"yah but he COULD be an 80 point player!"

...if he was an 80 point player he wouldn't cost less then 6 mil a year.

...essentially it seems like fans get mad at him for not magically turning into something he wasn't, even though he isn't being paid according to that standard (unlike someone else...a certain goal tender).


it was mentioned before, Wheeler criticisms practically mirror his "puck-luck". It's exactly what you'v said, we're only satisfied with him when he's on a hot streak, because fans tend to think that going on a hot streak is derived by something other then luck (streaky players, lazyness, etc etc)

 

[Joe Hallenback]

He is going to the net lately and it is paying off for him. I wonder if he was slightly injured to start the season and he was playing a perimeter game because of it

 

[Jet]

I like Wheeler and have accepted he is a bit streaky. He's a fine 1st liner but ideally would be perfect on the second line. Knowing his struggles come from confidence not laziness makes me far more forgiving when he is cold.

 

[Romang67]

Screw you guys. I wanted to talk about Wheeler in the Olympics thread the other day and got no replies.

 

[pucka lucka]

I like Wheeler and have accepted he is a bit streaky. He's a fine 1st liner but ideally would be perfect on the second line. Knowing his struggles come from confidence not laziness makes me far more forgiving when he is cold.

Everyone who isn't elite is pretty damn streaky. I think Wheeler gets the label and players like Ladd and Little don't is Wheeler is still quite noticeable when the points aren't coming. He wheels the offensive zone scoring or not.

 

[Grind]

Everyone who isn't elite is pretty damn streaky. I think Wheeler gets the label and players like Ladd and Little don't is Wheeler is still quite noticeable when the points aren't coming. He wheels the offensive zone scoring or not.

exactly!


That's why i get by back up when people are raggin on wheeler. Happened this year, happened last year, and it happened the first year. They completely let their opinion get colored by the goals column.


I'd be suprised if wheeler had points in considerably less games the Ladd or Little. Good players produce a higher volume of scoring chances, of which only a percentage will go in. Occasionally this fluctuates but over the season it evens out. When it fluctuates low or high for a series and a player plays a certain way, says something, or we have a predisposition to it, we build the narrative of streakyness.

It's all made up. Wheelers gettingt he bounces now he wasn't before. Unfortunately that's all there is to the story.

the only way to "be consistant" is to consistantly create so many chances that even when lucks not going your way, the shear volume ensures your still getting points.

It's all about talent and ability, not Streakiness. Wheeler doesn't have 80 point talent.

 

[Mathmew Purrrr Oh]

Wheels is finally winning his flips and avoiding the bad beats

 

[Romang67]

I think the main difference, and the reason why people call Wheeler streaky, is because when he is on, he can actually dominate games in a way that Ladd and Little can't. He isn't a floater, but when he's not getting puck luck, he gets a lot less commanding on the ice. Earlier in the season, someone mentioned that he would probably gain a lot from talking to the psychiatrist/hypnotist/mumbojumboist, to make him doubt himself less when he's going through the streaks of bad luck. And I kinda agree with that.

 

[jetkarma*]

He is streaky . He tends to have stretches where he both plays well , makes a difference and puts points up at or near a ppg rate.

Then he has stretches where he isn't productive either with points or play for long periods of time. He fluctuates with this as opposed to being more even or having the cold spells be luke warm.

Still may change but this Blake Wheeler.

Overall he is certainly a plus or a positive player but you see the skill , the size , the speed and you sometimes don't see maybe the confidence or effort and results which brings the criticism because it is obvious more could be imo.

 

[jetkarma*]

I think the main difference, and the reason why people call Wheeler streaky, is because when he is on, he can actually dominate games in a way that Ladd and Little can't. He isn't a floater, but when he's not getting puck luck, he gets a lot less commanding on the ice. Earlier in the season, someone mentioned that he would probably gain a lot from talking to the psychiatrist/hypnotist/mumbojumboist, to make him doubt himself less when he's going through the streaks of bad luck. And I kinda agree with that.

That was me , and I agree with the other parts of your post.

 

[puck stoppa]

Imagine if Wheeler could ever have a good start to a season, whatever he's done in the summer the last three years he needs to do the opposite next summer. He sucks for so long and now is a beast that can't be stopped.

 

[JetsFan815]

He could easily be a PPG player if he started every season the way he's playing right now.

 

[garret9]

Note: scoring chances, shot production and shot location hasn't changed for Wheeler since I posted that article...

So no more chances, domination, or perimeter/net-crash than prior...

The difference is the ones going in the net, and the general opinion has changed with it.

 

[ihadtochangethename]

i feel like he could score 30 this season. im super giddy too. we need a SUPER season from someone. been too long...

 

[ps241]

Note: scoring chances, shot production and shot location hasn't changed for Wheeler since I posted that article...

So no more chances, domination, or perimeter/net-crash than prior...

The difference is the ones going in the net, and the general opinion has changed with it.

Really curious to see how K and S impact Wheelers advanced stats (he says hoping they get a good look together as our top line)

 

[YWGinYYZ]

Really curious to see how K and S impact Wheelers advanced stats (he says hoping they get a good look together as our top line)

Ka$ch Money with Wheels. This could be a very interesting line, if Maurice goes in that direction.

Ladd Little Frolik
Kane Scheif Wheels
Seto Olli Buff

Me like.

 

[Andy6]

Ka$ch Money with Wheels. This could be a very interesting line, if Maurice goes in that direction.

Ladd Little Frolik
Kane Scheif Wheels
Seto Olli Buff

Me like.

It does look a whole lot better than the past two seasons. Suddenly, our C and RW are pretty solid and it's our LW that is a little lame. If the LWs can all play to their potential we might have something.

 

[wpgsilver]

It does look a whole lot better than the past two seasons. Suddenly, our C and RW are pretty solid and it's our LW that is a little lame. If the LWs can all play to their potential we might have something.

Ladd and Kane seem like a pretty solid 1-2 punch on the leftside.
Heck if Seto can find his game I think thats three pretty solid wingers.

 

[ihadtochangethename]

playing like GOD lately. Gotta give credit where credit is due. 30 goals in his back pocket! #GOWHEELSGO

 

[fmrdh]

playing like GOD lately. Gotta give credit where credit is due. 30 goals in his back pocket! #GOWHEELSGO

If he could only start the season a little faster... he would have a chance at 40 goals.

 

[YWGinYYZ]

Stats haven't been updated yet, but I think he's tied with Hossa for 8th amongst RW'ers.

 

[JetsFan815]

playing like GOD lately. Gotta give credit where credit is due. 30 goals in his back pocket! #GOWHEELSGO

Agreed. To think that when rumours were posted that Wheeler was likely to make the US olympic team people here were laughing how desperate the US team must be. He is playing every bit like an Olympian right now