Value of: Marcus Pettersson.

[Luigi Lemieux]

I may be in the minority of Jets fans that thinks the Jets need a legitimate upgrade on Stanley/Fleury at 3 LD. They’ve both been decent, but I ‘d prefer having them as injury replacements in the #7/8 slot than #6/7

Whether the upgrade is Pettersson, Provorov or someone else, I’m unsure. I’d hate to move Heinola before fully knowing what we have with him, but I begrudgingly would in the right deal. Sounds like he’s getting close to possibly getting some game action soon. A conditioning stint may be required first.

Maybe a change of scenery and uniting Chaz with his brother Cruz would be good for Chaz as a secondary piece.

The Jets 1st should be somewhere in the mid to late twenties/ thirties.

Pettersson would be such a luxury at 3 LD. He's played played top pair LD for the Pens for the last few years.

 

[David71]

Marcus Pettersson at 50% retained for Nils Hoglander. this will be the deal IMO. no picks included or any prospects from vancouvers side.

 

[Duffy13]

...and how many goals did they score?

Rakell's first NHL season with more than 18 games was in his D+5, he didn't score 20 until his D+6. Hoglander scored 24 ES goals in his D+5.

Hoglander has been an NHL regular since his D+2

Oooooh wow, so he will definitely be the top 6 winger of the future and not a marginally better version of Rakell who is inconsistent with flashes of maybe.

Again, me personally, I would rather have picks and or prospects, no idea what Dubas wants or what JR would give up, just have no interest in Hoglander for this version of the Pens, in this timeframe, with this coaching staff.

Also, you can easily look these stats up yourself. He won't be better than Rakell, he will fall into a category between Bunting, Beau and Rakell.... see we have 3 of them already. He'd be a great addition to a team that is set and wants depth on the 3rd line that can fill in on the 2nd line. The Pens are a horrible fit for him, he'd be ruined.

 

[SEALBound]

Marcus Pettersson at 50% retained for Nils Hoglander. this will be the deal IMO. no picks included or any prospects from vancouvers side.

I don't think it will be. Knowing a bit about Dubas and the future of the Pens, I don't think he takes this deal.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Oilers have zero young NHLers of value they can afford to part with, which is Dubas' main ask.

They also have no 1st.

Akey, Savoie, O'Reilly 2026 1st, 2024 2ndx2

You are just making up BS.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Pettersson will likely be the most sought-after dman on the trade market come TDL time. Super workable contract as well.

I suggested 1st+4th as a reasonable value, same thing with Pettersson+2nd for Pettersson straight up.

As I pointed out, Jake's value at the TDL last year was affected by Dubas not granting teams the other teams the opportunity to discuss an extension, so at the time of the trade, the team had to assume that he was a pure rental. And he still returned what he returned.

I put in my post that in order for Pettersson get a high return, it comes with the conditions of: granting permission to speak with his agent, putting an extension in place, and Dubas retaining 50% at the TDL. Meanwhile, we take back a cap dump. Hardly unreasonable. Pettersson is a 3rd pairing dman, Hoglander is on the 4th line with a new 3x3 coming. 1st will be a late first. If I'm mistaken on Hoglander not approaching the cap dump territory, then fine, we can pick another player like Desharnais. If it's Hoglander, we can likely send back DOC as a good fill in for Hoglander.

For a signed Pettersson, I’d probably do 1st, Hoglander and B prospect for Pettersson and DOC. But I also don’t view Hoglander’s value as highly as some of my fellow Canucks’ posters and was one of the few that would’ve given him up for Guentzel last deadline.

 

[Sidgeni Malkby]

Koivunen, Ponomarev, Brunicke and Bunting for 20 games of Jake seems good to me?

But acquiring EK65 and then trading your elite winger doesn’t make sense. Either keep/acquire both or neither.

EK65 was mainly to get rid of Granlund and Petry.

Guentzel was a "we're not making playoff so let's trade our elite winger for futures" kind of trade. I agree though, it was an awkward version of the retool Washington did.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Marcus Pettersson at 50% retained for Nils Hoglander. this will be the deal IMO. no picks included or any prospects from vancouvers side.

That’s like the Penguins offering Cody Glass for Brock Boeser straight up.

Hoglander career: 95 points in 238 games, 33 points per 82 games
Glass career: 75 points in 201 games, 31 points per 82 games

 

[Rowlet]

Akey, Savoie, O'Reilly 2026 1st, 2024 2ndx2

You are just making up BS.

None of those are NHL ready or currently playing in the NHL though... and they don't have a 1st this year?

Everything I said is factually correct.

 

[Diamonddog01]

For a signed Pettersson, I’d probably do 1st, Hoglander and B prospect for Pettersson and DOC. But I also don’t view Hoglander’s value as highly as some of my fellow Canucks’ posters and was one of the few that would’ve given him up for Guentzel last deadline.

I'd be happy with this. I don't think (nor do I want) Vancouver will trade Petterson. I also get that Pittsburgh fans don't want Hoglander but based on Dubas' record and statements I think it's a reasonable basis for a trade (not just 1 for 1, definitely needs a bit more from Vancouver).