Value of: Marco Rossi

biturbo19

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I get that a lot of Rossi's production is "because Kaprizov"...and he might not be a great fit away from that. And you're sorta paying "extra" for that, where unlike Hartman...he might not be "worth it" in other ways if he's not stapled to Kaprizov. But the only way it makes sense to me for Minnesota to move him, is if they're packaging him with other stuff to get an actual upgrade on that "de facto 1C" role somehow. And i'm really not sure "that guy" is actually on the market anywhere.


Someone like Barzal or Brock Nelson out of Long Island maybe...but i don't think that helps Minnesota much in their dead cap crunch. Malkin as an old man if he actually decides he's okay with being dealt? Zegras in Anaheim...but Rossi isn't the piece they'd want back at all, so it'd have to be a multi-stage deal?
 

LokiDog

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Panarin 50% retained + Lindgren 50% retained for Rossi + Middleton + Gaudreau (or other bottom six to help with cap) + Ohgren + 1st.

Even though I’ll get laughed at about Panarin being included.

I’ve thought about it a bit in the past and Bread for 2 more playoffs at only 5.8M is pretty tremendous value, plus putting him and Kaprizov together on the PP? Perennial 90-100 point winger at a very affordable cap hit for 2 runs to a team that needs affordable contracts due to the Parise/Suter buyouts, but is having a great year?

Take Middleton/Lindgren out of the deal if you want (I see them fairly equally, just think Middleton’s physicality would be welcome for NY). Rossi + Prospect + 1st for Panarin (not as a rental) at 50% isn’t crazy… I don’t think.
 
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Panarin 50% retained + Lindgren 50% retained for Rossi + Middleton + Gaudreau (or other bottom six to help with cap) + Ohgren + 1st.

Even though I’ll get laughed at about Panarin being included.

I’ve thought about it a bit in the past and Bread for 2 more playoffs at only 5.8M is pretty tremendous value, plus putting him and Kaprizov together on the PP? Perennial 90-100 point winger at a very affordable cap hit for 2 runs to a team that needs affordable contracts due to the Parise/Suter buyouts, but is having a great year?

Take Middleton/Lindgren out of the deal if you want (I see them fairly equally, just think Middleton’s physicality would be welcome for NY). Rossi + Prospect + 1st for Panarin (not as a rental) at 50% isn’t crazy… I don’t think.
Beating Bern to the punch, i see.
 

BuiumSaveUs

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I don’t thing the FO thinks he is the type of player you win with, for whatever reason. I think they just don’t like the idea of a small center man who isn’t a burner being the number one center if the future. Wasn’t a problem when they drafted him, but they seem to not be huge fans based on what we’ve heard for years and even in game usage.

I think they’d do something like Rossi for Pinto, or Rossi for Jiricek in the offseason.
 

Hollel

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I don’t thing the FO thinks he is the type of player you win with, for whatever reason. I think they just don’t like the idea of a small center man who isn’t a burner being the number one center if the future.
Right or wrong, this is definitely the answer as to why the org has seemingly been lukewarm on him long term. Definitely think they should see if Rossi/Kap can be there Point/Kuch but who knows lol
 

Luceni

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Point me to where Russo said that HYNES does not like Rossi.
It's obvious isn't it? Who is the first guy who gets a demotion when the team plays bad? Who gets no PP1 role even Rossi would be the perfect Zucc replacement there? Who has to play with scrubs like Trenin when injuries happen? Who gets almost no ice time when there is a close game late in the third? I could go on and on .....

It's always Rossi who has to deal with the coaches dogshit. It's obvious that they din't trust him and he isn't part of their longterm plans. When there a consequences after a bad game, Rossi is the first one who has to deal with them. Others like MaJo, Zucc or even Ek can do whatever they want. No consequences there.
 

57special

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I don’t thing the FO thinks he is the type of player you win with, for whatever reason. I think they just don’t like the idea of a small center man who isn’t a burner being the number one center if the future. Wasn’t a problem when they drafted him, but they seem to not be huge fans based on what we’ve heard for years and even in game usage.

I think they’d do something like Rossi for Pinto, or Rossi for Jiricek in the offseason.
Ooof. Pinto would be a definite downgrade...MN has plenty of 3C's, and JEE is the perfect 2C. That's really aiming low. Jiricek.... well, we don't know what he is. He is still young, and can improve, but so far he is hardly impressing CBJ.

I mean, it's always nice to have RHD's, but MN really needs a C if Rossi is traded. Depending on Yurov, Heidt, or Bankier to fill the void is madness.
 

Fjordy

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Ooof. Pinto would be a definite downgrade...MN has plenty of 3C's, and JEE is the perfect 2C. That's really aiming low. Jiricek.... well, we don't know what he is. He is still young, and can improve, but so far he is hardly impressing CBJ.

I mean, it's always nice to have RHD's, but MN really needs a C if Rossi is traded. Depending on Yurov, Heidt, or Bankier to fill the void is madness.
I liked Rossi so much in the draft, I think he would be a perfect 2C for Sabres.
 

SnuggaRUDE

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Here's my take:

This story is to generate clicks

He's playing well, he's young, teams are not going to take him as a package for a 'true' 1C
 

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