Player Discussion Marco Rossi

[Luceni]

Don't get me wrong, this thread is becoming ridiculous and we're discussing in circles. DigitalBoldy should rename himself into BG handyman or Rossi hater No1.

To be honest, this thread shows me why Rossi should leave Minnesota as soon as possible. Every professional athlete needs trust and kinda commitment from his coaches & franchise and thats something he won't get here especially after all those rumors/discussions and especially after the actions/interviews from BG & Hynes. Mostly just because of his size.

I really hope he succeeds elswhere, so that BG looks like a fool. And some posters here as well.

 

[KaprizovSaveUs]

And, by the by, if the thought is to get what we can for Rossi and keep the space open for 2026: it's McDavid and Eichel, and that is absolutely it as far as center solutions in UFA. Next best is Boone Jenner. And I'd bet quite a bit that both don't make it much into July this year before pen to paper.

Boone Jenner has also been playing the wing for like 3 years now too

 

[Sweetnut]

Billy G already looks like a fool to me. I'm sure Rossi's gonna come out of this on top.
No one knows what's really going on, just some rumors from a bunch of click-hunting sellouts.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

I think it's smart to keep the player, game-changing trade aside. After that, I am asking myself if 7 x $7M is out of line with what I would be asking him to do (it's not).

If you're cool with 6 x $6M and I'm cool with 7 x $7M, I do find it kind of amusing that all this consternation is over $1M per year. I get that everybody "overpaid" by $1M eventually adds up, but still kind of funny.

The "physically limited player" and "near the top of his physical limits" are just longer ways to say 'short'. I've stopped pretending it isn't about height a while ago, and have said multiple times that if he was 5'11" he'd probably have his contract by now. I still believe that.

I don't think an aspect of his game needs to "dramatically improve" or "reach a much higher level" to be comfortable with 7 x $7M. Do I want to see continued improvement that comes with age and experience? You bet I do.

Just for conversation's sake, what do you think is the defining/top end part of Jake Guentzel's game?

I’m cool with 6x6 because it’s between the two sides being stubborn asshats (Guerin at 5x5, Rossi 7x7). It’s close enough to what I think will be 3rd liner money ($5-6M) in a couple of years. If you’re asking what I would do if I were GM, it’d be around 3x$5M cause I don’t trust that Rossi is going to keep going upwards in trajectory (see: Cozens).

Don’t care if you want to call it short or whatever. His skating is average at best (below average IMO). His shot is average. His motor is below average. His strength is below average. Personally, I don’t think all of those things tie directly to his height. But, if you think all of those things are tied to his height… you do you

I don’t watch Guentzel enough to know about his game outside of he is a sniper.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Don't get me wrong, this thread is becoming ridiculous and we're discussing in circles. DigitalBoldy should rename himself into BG handyman or Rossi hater No1.

Next time tag me in the post. You’re giving off little man energy by not doing so.

 

[Minnewildsota]

Don't get me wrong, this thread is becoming ridiculous and we're discussing in circles. DigitalBoldy should rename himself into BG handyman or Rossi hater No1.

To be honest, this thread shows me why Rossi should leave Minnesota as soon as possible. Every professional athlete needs trust and kinda commitment from his coaches & franchise and thats something he won't get here especially after all those rumors/discussions and especially after the actions/interviews from BG & Hynes. Mostly just because of his size.

I really hope he succeeds elswhere, so that BG looks like a fool. And some posters here as well.

I think this post is ridiculous. Nobody here is hating Rossi.
They’re just questioning if you can win a Cup with him being your 2C, or higher. The same thing had happened with almost every player we’ve had, excluding Kap.

You don’t seem to take offense when people question whether or not Brodin or Spurgeon should be moved. They’re better players than Rossi. Take off the rose colored glasses and at least look at this someone objectively, rather than just being a Rossi fanboy.

Or you could just change your username to Webster2.0

 

[ctmagic]

Couldn’t agree more.

And put him in a position to succeed, drive his vslue up.

 

[north21]

Don't get me wrong, this thread is becoming ridiculous and we're discussing in circles.

I think we have reached peak internet over obsession to the point we can kill and beat the dead horse, bring it back to life and kill/beat it again and again until something actually happens.

 

[north21]

Billy G already looks like a fool to me. I'm sure Rossi's gonna come out of this on top.
No one knows what's really going on, just some rumors from a bunch of click-hunting sellouts.

To me Rossi looked pretty good, had knack for scoring some big goals at important times and seems like he has more upside. Sure he is a little smaller than Lindros but for a team who has so consistently lacked centers and offense I just don't get the drama.

Even if yurov comes in and is a stud I would be super happy to run all 3 of them.

 

[BagHead]

I think we have reached peak internet over obsession to the point we can kill and beat the dead horse, bring it back to life and kill/beat it again and again until something actually happens.

Ah, found the necromancer. Respect.

 

[HotDish]

Marco Rossi’s contract situation with the Wild has become more complicated

Bill Guerin's goals for the Wild's offseason may be hampered by developments around the league.

www.nytimes.com

 

[57special]

Hynes brain dead lineup decisions have created a monster, Can't wait to see him go.

So far, this off season is a failure. Instead of adding Center talent, we are talking about moving it out.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Reading between the lines Minnesota wants to add a player like Rossi but teams don't want to give up the value as they are also competing. That leaves Minnesota traded Rossi for someone like Kadri. Yuck.

 

[ctmagic]

Can't wait to see him go.

Something this whole board can actually agree on.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Alright, I'm back on the 'work something out' train.

$47M / 8 and we all get whiskeys.

 

[KaprizovSaveUs]

Alright, I'm back on the 'work something out' train.

$47M / 8 and we all get whiskeys.

I don’t understand why term seems to be the issue with Guerin. If he does something like 2 x 5.5 but won’t do 7x7 that just says to me he’s an idiot or he thinks Rossi is going to fall off.

 

[ctmagic]

I don’t understand why term seems to be the issue with Guerin. If he does something like 2 x 5.5 but won’t do 7x7 that just says to me he’s an idiot or he thinks Rossi is going to fall off.

Said this in the trade board too…

BG is playing hardball with the Rossi camp. Sounds like the markets not what he wants for him, which actually gives him leverage in contract negotiations. He will keep a 2/3 year bridge on the table at 5.5-6 per and wait for ether the right trade to materialize, or he signs. Option 3 is the offer sheet and in that case we take the unprotected 26’ and either flip it for an established player or keep it and plug holes with a FA

 

[AKL]

I don’t understand why term seems to be the issue with Guerin. If he does something like 2 x 5.5 but won’t do 7x7 that just says to me he’s an idiot or he thinks Rossi is going to fall off.

I wonder if he'll become more amenable to 7x7 when he realizes he can't use the extra cap space he'd have on a 2x4 or something on anyone else because there's no one else

 

[Boreas]

Even if yurov comes in and is a stud I would be super happy to run all 3 of them.

Yeah me too but mostly with Rossi as a 3C playing between a pair of heavies (ideally more talented than Foligno and Hartman but we make do with what we have) who can do the the heavy lifting on the boards for him.

The question that Rossi poses to teams is whether or not anyone thinks he can be a 2C on a legimate cup-contending team. And the answer thats come back so far has been no - and thats not just from Billy but the league generally. The only team that seems to vigorously want Marco at 2C is Vancouver and that's bc the Canucks are in a state of absolute desperation (as they always are).

For me, when I imagine Marco Rossi on a legitimate cup-contending team I imagine him scoring goals much as he did for the Wild against VGK only with better versions of linemates than Trenin and Brazeau (ie guys whos icetime you dont have to manage so carefully).

I dont like the idea of relying on him to be my 2C but I like the idea of him playing up in the lineup as a 2C when needed. I can be wrong but at this point it does seem I have the vast majority of NHL GMs on this side of the fence with me.

Another thought, how certain are we that Yurov signs his deal and comes over this year if he sees that both Ek and Rossi are signed long-term with big commitments? I dont say that I know for sure and I dont say that its the primary thing to build your roster around but it very well could have been a major problem. Russian players typically arent afraid to use their leverage and wait out teams until they get what they want.

 

[KaprizovSaveUs]

I wonder if he'll become more amenable to 7x7 when he realizes he can't use the extra cap space he'd have on a 2x4 or something on anyone else because there's no one else

Idk, I think he’ll be able to find 3 or 4 Trenin types he could add

 

[Sweetnut]

I want to see Rossi for a few more years, I'm pretty sure he's gonna continue to improve his game the next couple of seasons. He seems to have the work ethic and the right mindset. Who cares about his physical stature anyways?
Like I use to say to my girlfriends, it's not the size, it's the way you swing it.

 

[north21]

Another thought, how certain are we that Yurov signs his deal and comes over this year if he sees that both Ek and Rossi are signed long-term with big commitments? I dont say that I know for sure and I dont say that its the primary thing to build your roster around but it very well could have been a major problem. Russian players typically arent afraid to use their leverage and wait out teams until they get what they want.

No worries there.

Minnesota Wild Signs Forward Danila Yurov to Entry-Level Contract | Minnesota Wild

SAINT PAUL, Minn. \- Minnesota Wild President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Bill Guerin today announced the National Hockey League (NHL) club has signed forward Danila Yurov (dah-nee-lah YURR-ahv) to a three-year, entry-level contract starting with the 2025-26 season.

www.nhl.com

 

[DigitalBoldy]

I don’t understand why term seems to be the issue with Guerin. If he does something like 2 x 5.5 but won’t do 7x7 that just says to me he’s an idiot or he thinks Rossi is going to fall off.

Yeah, Rossi is guaranteed to improve with a decrease in minutes don’t cha know?

Guerin basically got screwed in the Rossi negotiations by Eriksson Ek being out injured for 30+ games and playing injured for the entire first half.

 

[f7ben]

Yeah, Rossi is guaranteed to improve with a decrease in minutes don’t cha know?

Guerin basically got screwed in the Rossi negotiations by Eriksson Ek being out injured for 30+ games and playing injured for the entire first half.

So Guerin got screwed because he was hoping to marginalize his young player and damage his value???? Hmmmmm

 

[BagHead]

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Yeah, Rossi is guaranteed to improve with a decrease in minutes don’t cha know?

Guerin basically got screwed in the Rossi negotiations by Eriksson Ek being out injured for 30+ games and playing injured for the entire first half.

When JEE was healthy Rossi was playing with Kaprizov and Zuccarello on the 1st line. I really don't think his deployment will meaningfully change over the course of a full season regardless of JEE's health. He'll play both #2 and #1 center at various times, and be demoted for a handful of games if he plays poorly. As an aside, Hynes wasn't wrong to demote Rossi, it's just that he should have done it 20 games sooner. His timing is shit.