Player Discussion Marco Rossi

[Spurgeon]

Are you suggesting they trade him before July 1? Maybe a draft day deal?

Is Hayton capable of playing the PK? He’s someone I could see us being interested in with his FO numbers.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

If it doesn't, you have to change your name to DigitalRossi.

Yuck.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

They’ve already got kind of a dirty version of Schmaltz in Hartman (RH, ~30 yo, smallish build, center/wing hybrid, mediocre FO%).

I could see them being somewhat interested in him, but I don’t think he’d be the centerpiece of a Rossi trade. He’s a UFA after next year & his offensive numbers have been a bit inflated from the PP in the past 2 seasons.

Realistically they’re probably targeting a bigger forward in a trade for Rossi. Guerin has an obsession with bigger forwards & it’d fit into what I interpret his ideal team to look like.

In the unlikely scenario that Guerin does move Spurgeon for futures in a separate trade though, I think it’d make a lot of sense for the Wild to target someone like Durzi as the replacement.

Fake narrative.

 

[BagHead]

Yuck.

I really like AKL's suggestion of DigitalBuium.

 

[Wasted Talent]

I really like AKL's suggestion of DigitalBuium.

Hynes would suggest DigitalMerrill

 

[Mosby]

Is Hayton capable of playing the PK? He’s someone I could see us being interested in with his FO numbers.

Yes, but he won't be moved because Utah's biggest need is a 2C. So, it doesn't make sense to bring in one center but move out another.

I'd think Utah's trade chips are all draft picks, any of the prospects outside of Iginla, Beaudoin, Lamoureux, But, and Simashev. Roster players I could see being moved are Maccelli, Schmaltz, and to a lesser degree Crouse.

 

[Mosby]

He was his coach in Ottawa for two years, the man always had Rossi‘s back. I remember a great interview Russo had with him about Rossi during the first year Rossi tried to make the Wild roster (and failed). For Rossi it would probably be great to reunite with his junior coach. Certainly no trust issues there. If the business side works out this could be a match made in heaven.

It's not verbatim but I remember Tourigny saying Rossi is essentially "the most perfect" hockey player. He does everything well and doesn't make mistakes.

 

[MNRube]

Utah arguably the worst fit. They already have a half dozen playmakers, most of whom are undersized.

 

[KaprizovSaveUs]

5'10" 22 year old just got 7 x $6.5M after 47p in 77g up in Calgary.

I'd say Rossi would be ~$1M more. Fits pretty much exactly in my Rossi contract range.

Rossi is a year older than Coronato so it may be more fair to compare their production both at age 22. I think it’s a really good comp if we were to go 7 years, though I’d have Rossi coming in closer to 7.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

I really like AKL's suggestion of DigitalBuium.

I really like that too, but I don’t want to get ahead of myself.

 

[KaprizovSaveUs]

Yes, but he won't be moved because Utah's biggest need is a 2C. So, it doesn't make sense to bring in one center but move out another.

I'd think Utah's trade chips are all draft picks, any of the prospects outside of Iginla, Beaudoin, Lamoureux, But, and Simashev. Roster players I could see being moved are Maccelli, Schmaltz, and to a lesser degree Crouse.

I don’t really have any interest in the prospects outside of Iginla, But and Simashev. It’s understandable that you wouldn’t want to move them but there’s nothing there for me then. If he does get to the offer sheet period, that’s your best shot. But, as others have said, I think Guerin moves on from him before then to get cap certainty.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Yes, but he won't be moved because Utah's biggest need is a 2C. So, it doesn't make sense to bring in one center but move out another.

I'd think Utah's trade chips are all draft picks, any of the prospects outside of Iginla, Beaudoin, Lamoureux, But, and Simashev. Roster players I could see being moved are Maccelli, Schmaltz, and to a lesser degree Crouse.

I’m confused, would Rossi not be the 2C? You’re trading for him as the 3C for your team?

So nobody of value is available?

This reads in the same regard as, hey what’s the cost of Logan Cooley? Rossi won’t be moved because it doesn’t make sense to trade one center out for another. All of our draft picks are available and any prospects outside of Buium, Yurov, Ohgren, Wallstedt, and Jiricek. Roster players I could see being moved are Brodin, Gaudreau, and to a lesser degree Hartman.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Rossi is a year older than Coronato so it may be more fair to compare their production both at age 22. I think it’s a really good comp if we were to go 7 years, though I’d have Rossi coming in closer to 7.

Maybe, but that extra year is also more information that we know.

I have Rossi at $7.4M on 7 years.

 

[Spurgeon]

Fake narrative.

Thanks for your input.

 

[KaprizovSaveUs]

Maybe, but that extra year is also more information that we know.

I have Rossi at $7.4M on 7 years.

Closest comp for me is Bo Horvat’s second deal. That would be $7M x 6 years in todays money, so your 7 year comp is probably right on. I would have no problem paying that, but I also think using that money in free agency and getting a future asset for him is enticing.

 

[Webster]

Guerin's breakup day presser should be up soon. I hope he has something to say about Rossi plans...or no plans.

 

[Luceni]

Guerin's breakup day presser should be up soon. I hope he has something to say about Rossi plans...or no plans.

It's not hard to predict what he's gonna say:

"We're happy with Rossis development although he's had a rough stretch at the end of the season, that's why he's played on the 4th line in Playoffs".

"We want ro resign Rossi and we've offered a fair deal a few months ago but Rossis management has not agreed to that offer. We are still trying to have a deal done but if we can't find an agreement with Rossis agent, we're gonna look for other possibilities."

 

[Wabit]

It's not hard to predict what he's gonna say:

"We're happy with Rossis development although he's had a rough stretch at the end of the season

This is all that will be said. The rest is just projection.

If anything is said about his Playoff usage all he'll say is we liked the way that line was playing so didn't see any reason to split it up, and/or that was a coaching decision that I don't play a part in.

If anything is said about contract negotiations it'll be something along the lines of: it's a process that we're working through and it's a long summer to get the details all worked out.

Injury news is about the only interesting thing that comes out of end of season pressers. The rest is just players, coaches, FO all following their media training and saying the "right" things.

 

[Luceni]

This is all that will be said. The rest is just projection.

If anything is said about his Playoff usage all he'll say is we liked the way that line was playing so didn't see any reason to split it up, and/or that was a coaching decision that I don't play a part in.

If anything is said about contract negotiations it'll be something along the lines of: it's a process that we're working through and it's a long summer to get the details all worked out.

Injury news is about the only interesting thing that comes out of end of season pressers. The rest is just players, coaches, FO all following their media training and saying the "right" things.

I think you're right. The art of speaking words but say nothing at all. That's what all those media pro's are doing.

It'll be interesting to hear some injury news for sure but I doubt that they're gonna say much about that neither.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Thanks for your input.

This board loves to run with hysterical narratives.

 

[Spurgeon]

This board loves to run with hysterical narratives.

And victim complexes

 

[DigitalBoldy]

And victim complexes

Amen to that.

 

[Mosby]

I’m confused, would Rossi not be the 2C? You’re trading for him as the 3C for your team?

So nobody of value is available?

This reads in the same regard as, hey what’s the cost of Logan Cooley? Rossi won’t be moved because it doesn’t make sense to trade one center out for another. All of our draft picks are available and any prospects outside of Buium, Yurov, Ohgren, Wallstedt, and Jiricek. Roster players I could see being moved are Brodin, Gaudreau, and to a lesser degree Hartman.

Ideally our center group would be Cooley - Rossi - Hayton - Stenlund.

I think the most valuable asset Utah puts on the board is the 2026 1st. I doubt it's McKenna territory, but if everything goes wrong, who knows. Not sure if the 2025 1st is available as the team may use the pick to unveil the team name.

 

[AKL]

Ideally our center group would be Cooley - Rossi - Hayton - Stenlund.

I think the most valuable asset Utah puts on the board is the 2026 1st. I doubt it's McKenna territory, but if everything goes wrong, who knows. Not sure if the 2025 1st is available as the team may use the pick to unveil the team name.

Not gonna pretend to know what Guerin would want, he may not care about getting a center in return if his plan is to sign Brock Nelson. If I were the GM, I wouldn't trade him without some combination of Hayton or Doan plus picks and prospects coming back. Zero interest whatsoever in Nick Schmaltz as part of the return.

If I'm halfway intelligent, I know that a Utah 2026 1st is going to be a mid to late teens pick, if that's the most valuable piece in the return, I'll look elsewhere.

 

[Mosby]

I could maybe see a scenario where Cole Beaudoin is put on the table. Big strong center, probably a solid 3C long term. Just had a nice D+1 season in Barrie. Crushed the combine a year ago. He's probably 2 years away from NHL ready.

If Utah were to bring in Rossi, there isn't really a spot for Beaudoin long term behind Cooley, Rossi, and Hayton.