Player Discussion Marco Rossi

[AKL]

Absolutely. I think they're two totally different situations though, with Rossi coming off his ELC, the buyout penalties dropping down to under 2M, and the cap going up 24-25 million over the next three years.

If Rossi looks like a stud in the playoffs, I'm sure BG will keep him. He doesn't seem to like shaking up the roster too much.

Well I think part of the rub is that none of the guys Guerin has extended look like studs in the playoffs, and they still got extensions. I mean, there's only one guy in this entire organization that looks like a stud come playoff time. So what does Rossi need to do, exactly, in the playoffs to earn the extension everyone else got?

But it is a different situation. Fiala would have required us to move someone to fit a 7-8M contract, he was a winger on a team who was thought to have fairly deep wings at the time, he had on-ice issues at times, and there were even some rumors that he wasn't so easy to work with off-ice.

Signing Rossi doesn't require us to move anyone to fit a 7-8M contract, he's the best center on a team with very, very little center depth, and he has no on- or off-ice issues whatsoever.

It's a no brainer to extend Rossi instead of trading him at this point. We don't need D, W or G more than we need C, and the chances of us getting a better C in a trade are slim to none, unless we take a big hit on age or term, neither of which are good for us.

 

[Sota Popinski]

Well I think part of the rub is that none of the guys Guerin has extended look like studs in the playoffs, and they still got extensions. I mean, there's only one guy in this entire organization that looks like a stud come playoff time. So what does Rossi need to do, exactly, in the playoffs to earn the extension everyone else got?

I have no clue, but his play in the regular season hasn't been lacking. And Russo has said that Rossi's name has been involved in trade talks over the past couple seasons. So I'm assuming that Guerin can only be convinced that Rossi's size isn't an issue if he proves it in the playoffs.

It's less a matter of keep or trade than player valuation. When we traded for Jiricek, Guerin called it "an investment." In today's article he said "you like a certain player at 4M, you don't like him so much at 7M." He would have extended Fiala at a certain price, but traded him when he wanted more. Based off all that I think they have a pretty rigid system for evaluating what a player is worth and aren't willing to stray too much from it. Which I think is great if your valuations are accurate. Guerin has done a fantastic job with trades and a mediocre job with contracts.

 

[AKL]

It's less a matter of keep or trade than player valuation. When we traded for Jiricek, Guerin called it "an investment." In today's article he said "you like a certain player at 4M, you don't like him so much at 7M." He would have extended Fiala at a certain price, but traded him when he wanted more. Based off all that I think they have a pretty rigid system for evaluating what a player is worth and aren't willing to stray too much from it.

I agree with this. I like Brock Nelson at 4M for 1-2 years, I don't like him at 7M for any amount of time. So I'm not saying this is a bad way to do things. It's a great way to do things.

Which I think is great if your valuations are accurate.

This is the part I don't trust Guerin to do well enough.

Guerin has done a fantastic job with trades and a mediocre job with contracts.

This I fully agree with.


I think Guerin's processes are generally good, I think the inputs he provides the processes with are what's flawed. His personal opinion on what's valuable, his personal opinion on what's worth how much is what I disagree with in regard to his GMing.