Marchand is a HoFer, right?

[DJN21]

Maybe if the Sabres had a few " Marchand " type players on the team then they might actually make the Playoffs more than once every 15 seasons.

ouch! My feelings!...anyways look at you floor you're just as interesting as this HOT take....

 

[BoHorvat 53]

He likely gets in, may not be 1st ballot though.

If it was my HHOF, he wouldn't be there. Was never a Top 10 player in the league for me personally and he never won any major individual accolades. That being said, there's plenty of players who don't have those and have made the HHOF. He'll be there for his style of play, Team Success, International Success and Longevity (likely hits 1000pts).

He has multiple seasons of finishing top-10 in both Hart + Selke Trophy voting results, to say he was never a top 10 player in the league is kind of nuts honestly.

 

[BostonBob]

ouch! My feelings!...anyways look at you floor you're just as interesting as this HOT take....

Look at you floor. WTF does that even mean ????

 

[Nucks2001]

He has multiple seasons of finishing top-10 in both Hart + Selke Trophy voting results, to say he was never a top 10 player in the league is kind of nuts honestly.

I said he wasn’t in my personal top 10 ever. Just because you finish Top 10 in Selke voting does not make you a better lockdown guy than Bergeron or Barkov. Just because you finish top 10 in Hart voting does not make you a more valuable player than McDavid, Crosby, Ovi or Kucherov.

During the time-period of his 5-year peak 2017-2022, He simply does not have an arguement against Crosby, McDavid, Drai,, Kucherov, Vasi or Hedman. I would argue MacKinnon won a Cup in that timeframe and his highs were better than Marchand’s during those times. Patrick Kane is just a more skilled and better hockey player than him. I don’t think you’ll find a single person that will take Marchand over Kane.

If you notice all the guys that are mentioned are HALL OF FAME LOCKS. You will find no one that disagrees with those players. I’d maybe have Marchand after those guys during his peak, although I still think I would have had Bergeron or Barkov over him. These were also the years where Matthews was starting to become the best regular season goal-scorer.

Again, he’s RIGHT there. I don’t think anyone could argue he’s NOT top 15. He played extremely well, but that’s also because he played with Bergeron and Pasta. Crosby, Ovi, Kane, Drai and McDavid had worse linemates from 2017-2022.

I think everyone just gets tainted by his style of play and his peak years. Which were PHENOMENAL. He’s making the hall. I think we can both agree on that. I don’t think it’s out of this world to say he was never a top 10 player in the league.

 

[Turin]

The hall of fame has accepted many worse players already so yea

 

[DJN21]

Look at you floor. WTF does that even mean ????

next time you think you are funny on here....just look at your own floor....you'll understand how interesting your insult was to me when you just stare at your own floor. Hope this helps, best wishes.

 

[BostonBob]

next time you think you are funny on here....just look at your own floor....you'll understand how interesting your insult was to me when you just stare at your own floor. Hope this helps, best wishes.

It really doesn't but maybe " look at your own floor " is some sort of Rochester saying because I've honestly never heard of it before. All I see when I look at my floor is that I really need to get my spin mop out of the closet.

 

[DJN21]

It really doesn't but maybe " look at your own floor " is some sort of Rochester saying because I've honestly never heard of it before. All I see when I look at my floor is that I really need to get my spin mop out of the closet.

It's not a Rochester thing but "Boston Bob" not being able to understand the concept of his opinion/comments being bland is not that hard to imagine. Somewhere Matt Damon wants to know if you like apples..spin mops are legit btw....

 

[BostonBob]

It's not a Rochester thing but "Boston Bob" not being able to understand the concept of his opinion/comments being bland is not that hard to imagine. Somewhere Matt Damon wants to know if you like apples..spin mops are legit btw....

Wow - somebody here is taking things a bit too seriously.

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

I would say yes but it’s not a slam dunk. Individual stats and hardware leave a lot to be desired. But he’s one of the most iconic and unique players from his generation and I think he’s achieved legendary status as a two-way pest. I’ve really enjoyed his arc over the last year, I’m finding him really hard to root against these days.

 

[hamzarocks]

He has multiple seasons of finishing top-10 in both Hart + Selke Trophy voting results, to say he was never a top 10 player in the league is kind of nuts honestly.

He was a top 10 player in 2017, 2018 (top 5), 2019 (top 7) 2020 (top 10ish) and 2021 (top 7)

He fell off though earlier than expected in 2022, which cost him a shot at 1st ballot HHOF

 

[Staniowski]

Marchand is a very good hall-of-famer.

A top player offensively and defensively, played great against tough opposition, really good on Team Canada (in 2016), and always clutch.

There's nothing not to love about him. He's a legend.

 

[bobbyking]

smythe?

 

[Nucks2001]

He was a top 10 player in 2017, 2018 (top 5), 2019 (top 7) 2020 (top 10ish) and 2021 (top 7)

He fell off though earlier than expected in 2022, which cost him a shot at 1st ballot HHOF

You say he’s a top 5 player in 2017-2018. So essentially you’re saying he’s better than one of Kucherov, McDavid, Crosby, Malkin, MacKinnon, Ovechkin, Bergeron, Kopitar, Hedman during that time. I’ll even throw Claude Giroux in there as he finished higher in Hart voting than Marchand and that was arguably Giroux’s peak. Extremely underrated player.

Like Marchand’s going to make the HHOF. I doubt that he doesn’t. Let’s not just overrate and sugarcoat him though. Elite player and best-of-the-best for many years. Top 3-5 winger for a 5-year period. BUT HE WAS NEVER a top 5 player in the NHL at any point

 

[FourHourParekhtion]

I mean he has to be by now right?
Just making sure the HF posters are in agreement. Guy will be a 1,000 point scorer soon enough, and maybe a 500g scorer, likely not though but close.

And thats only bringing up numbers, ignoring everything else he does on the ice.

Inarguably.

 

[hamzarocks]

You say he’s a top 5 player in 2017-2018. So essentially you’re saying he’s better than one of Kucherov, McDavid, Crosby, Malkin, MacKinnon, Ovechkin, Bergeron, Kopitar, Hedman during that time. I’ll even throw Claude Giroux in there as he finished higher in Hart voting than Marchand and that was arguably Giroux’s peak. Extremely underrated player.

Like Marchand’s going to make the HHOF. I doubt that he doesn’t. Let’s not just overrate and sugarcoat him though. Elite player and best-of-the-best for many years. Top 3-5 winger for a 5-year period. BUT HE WAS NEVER a top 5 player in the NHL at any point

He was better than Crosby, Bergeron, kopitar, giroux, and OV in 2018. He missed 14 games costing him a shot at the ross/hart

Marchand was the 2nd best winger after kucherov from 2017 to 2021. He was top 10 for sure and borderline top 5

 

[geebster]

It truly is a sign of the end times. Decline of mankind and proof that the rapture is nigh. His inclusion would tarnish the Halls for the rest of time.

That said, he deserves it. If he played for the team I cheered for I would love the guy for sure. Also holy shit what was that in game 5... That first goal looked like prime Crosby stuff.

 

[Nucks2001]

He was better than Crosby, Bergeron, kopitar, giroux, and OV in 2018. He missed 14 games costing him a shot at the ross/hart

Marchand was the 2nd best winger after kucherov from 2017 to 2021. He was top 10 for sure and borderline top 5

Marchand was never a better player than Sidney Crosby or Alex Ovechkin at any point in his career. Please stop it.

What more do you want Ovi to do? Wins the Rocket, Con Smythe and the Cup in 2018 and apparently Marchand is better in that season?! Give me a break.

 

[Regal]

Marchand was never a better player than Sidney Crosby or Alex Ovechkin at any point in his career. Please stop it.

What more do you want Ovi to do? Wins the Rocket, Con Smythe and the Cup in 2018 and apparently Marchand is better in that season?! Give me a break.

Maybe not 2018 but he was very clearly better in 19-20 and 20-21