Marc Bergevin Thread -- How you Drouin?
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DAChampion
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Neal is a declining player, so it's a tough call.
Was he not impotent against Pittsburgh?
He isn't great in the playoffs. But he also scored 23 goals and 41 points in 70 games and 2 years ago he had 31 goals.
His hit is only 5 Mill for next year. I think he can easily get 25 goals next year if healthy. You think Hudon scores 25 goals in the next 2 years COMBINED for the habs? Or offer JDLR or a pick, whatever we offer its better than 0 they got from LV. Heck send the Beauliu so they can leave him unprotected and LV takes him.
Also opens up to trading a player on the habs roster or a backup if for whatever reason Radulov doesn't come back. I am only suggesting it because the price would of been cheap since Polie lost Neal for nothing. Probably could flip him for a 1st or good prospect at the TDL even if habs wanted to.
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MB had the "luxury" of protecting the great Jordie Benn AND Shawful. So keep wondering.
Emelin was averaging 21+min/game last season and Habs need ld. He's actually LVs highest minute playing D selected. No one is freaking out here about that, perhaps it's similar. Furthermore, Preds actually have good players to protect.
MB had the "luxury" of protecting the great Jordie Benn AND Shawful. So keep wondering.
only reason the binman protected shaw was had he not , he would look like a complete ass for handing him that albatross of a contract
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Considering what other team paid to protect superior player or multiple players, why the hell wasn't MB able to protect Emelin ...
Fun fact Polie win GM of the Year, What has he done to deserve this, this year?
Fun fact Polie win GM of the Year, What has he done to deserve this, this year?
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Fleecing Bergevin in the Weber-Subban trade was enough for him to win the hardware.
Fleeced??? Hahah. Too funny
Weber finished 6th In Norris voting
Subban not even top 20
But hey that's a fleecing
You know it's shea Weber and not yanick right
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Funny how that work eh?
With 0 point Subban is closer to Weber (100pts/6th) than Weber is close to the 1st (Burns/1437pts).
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017 play offs.
Subban 2 goals.
Hainsey 2 goals.
Weber 1 goal.
off topic........the best addition going into next season? The Stanley Cup Champions add Chris Letang......for nothing.
nobody is improving like the Pens are.
Pittsburgh manages to have injuries every year.
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I don't think I'd be willing to trade Hudon for Neal. Especially that Neal is a winger and we have enough of those. I would rather stick with Hudon and give him a chance to show what he's got in the NHL. I know Neal is a proven player, but not every asset the Habs have has to be used in a trade. They need to keep some around and give them a chance to prove themselves at the NHL level. And I believe Hudon is one of those players who will be good in the big dance.
And 650K for two seasons is better than 5M for one.
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Ottawa lost Methot and Nashville lost Neal for nothing.
Seriously I really like Bergevin off season thus far.
Losing Emelin's bad contract wirhout buy out or trading an asset, finally getting rid of Beaulieu (the mistake man) and acquiring Drouin for futures.
Now please, sign Markov and Radulov today !
Seriously I really like Bergevin off season thus far.
Losing Emelin's bad contract wirhout buy out or trading an asset, finally getting rid of Beaulieu (the mistake man) and acquiring Drouin for futures.
Now please, sign Markov and Radulov today !
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He's also UFA next summer.
I think Poile made the right move protecting his young cost controlled guys like Aberg and Scissons instead of declining and soon to be UFA Neal. It may hurt a bit short term but long term it was the right thing to do imho. It also give them 5m in cap space
I don't get the off season hatred. I think he's done alright so far this year. Played the expansion draft about as well as he could have.
1. Turned Pateryn and Desharnais into useful defensemen at / before the deadline
2. Benn turned out to be better than Beaulieu so he gets protected
3. Takes advantage of Tampa, who really wanted to move a protected forward for an unprotectable D-man. Drouin for Sergachev.
4. Leaves Hudon unprotected, pandemonium ensues.
5. Trades Beaulieu for a 3rd, since he was going to lose him to Vegas anyway
6. Loses $4.1 million off the cap when Vegas takes Emelin
7. Gives up nothing to Vegas to make that pick happen
He basically traded Emelin for a 3rd round pick. Not bad.
Yzerman, everyone's favorite GM, had to give up Gusev, a 2nd round pick and a 4th round pick to get Vegas to take their overpaid D-man Garrison.
1. Turned Pateryn and Desharnais into useful defensemen at / before the deadline
2. Benn turned out to be better than Beaulieu so he gets protected
3. Takes advantage of Tampa, who really wanted to move a protected forward for an unprotectable D-man. Drouin for Sergachev.
4. Leaves Hudon unprotected, pandemonium ensues.
5. Trades Beaulieu for a 3rd, since he was going to lose him to Vegas anyway
6. Loses $4.1 million off the cap when Vegas takes Emelin
7. Gives up nothing to Vegas to make that pick happen
He basically traded Emelin for a 3rd round pick. Not bad.
Yzerman, everyone's favorite GM, had to give up Gusev, a 2nd round pick and a 4th round pick to get Vegas to take their overpaid D-man Garrison.
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Norris voting is so lame. who the hell would give Weber a 1st place vote. He was brutal from December-February and played no small role in getting his coach fired. Real Norris-worthy performance from the ol Fisherman
You never have enough goal scorers.
I'm not sure I get the Hudon love. I don't think he'll end up being much of a NHLer. I could be totally wrong here, just a hunch on my part.
Assuming the 650K gives you the same performance as the 5M one. Otherwise, no, not necessarily.
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What isn't there to get? He's averaged 0.80 ppg in his last 3 AHL seasons and is still a young(ish) prospect... if his AHL success translates, he could end up being a 50-55 pts NHLer which is pretty decent. Writing him off as an NHLer at this point doesn't make much sense given his performance in the A and he's definitely earned a serious, prolonged look with the big club.
Pretty sure Nashville, like all other teams, had to protect more than one player. But you know...facts.
I was unimpressed every time I've seen him play, but as I said, it's just a hunch, could be totally wrong. Would be great if he ends up being that 50pt guy.
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Alright so moving Beaulieu for a 3rd makes sense now.
Emelin and his 4.1 gone gives the Habs around 23M in cap space as of now to resign Radulov, Galchenyuk and Markov. Or to take on a contract in a trade such as a 6m player: Eberle, Duchene etc
Emelin and his 4.1 gone gives the Habs around 23M in cap space as of now to resign Radulov, Galchenyuk and Markov. Or to take on a contract in a trade such as a 6m player: Eberle, Duchene etc
Habs Halifax
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I agree. Hudon has offensive upside. He deserves a shot the same way Lehkonen got his chance last year and bumped Hudon down one on the depth charts. Hudon doesn't have the skating Lehkonen has but Hudon does have great vision on the ice. He better be working his but off this off season to be ready for camp!
Habs Halifax
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Subban wasn't the reason he won GM of the year. Preds are a well build team through the draft. Subban is not their best D-man. He is one of a very strong top 4D that works together. That top 4D is deadly!
Habs got Weber. Yeah, he's not Subban, he's Weber. We need to get use to this and accept what Weber brings to the table. Weber in front of Price is a very good situation for the Habs and we can count on this for many years.
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