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Marc Bergevin (Part 12) Deadline Edition

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2011-2012 - Out Of Playoffs
2012-2013 - Lost Round 1
2013-2014 - Lost Round 3
2014-2015 - Lost Round 2
2015-2016 - Out Of Playoffs
2016-2017 - Lost Round 1
2017-2018 - Out Of Playoffs
2018-2019 - Out Of Playoffs
2019-2020 - Out Of Playoffs
Kind of interesting how team has taken a complete nosedive since Subban trade. Not to imply causality but ... :dunno:
 
Promising...to what end? I'm not expecting much more than a 3rd center from Poehling.
Caufield...to me he's just too far away to even speak of and our history in developing strong goal scorers isn't exactly great.
Primeau...he's below .900 in the AHL, not sure why people are writing him on as if he will for sure become the future Price.

To me you have Suzuki, KK and Romanov who are very promising, and even Romanov, he has 1 goal in two seasons in the KHL. I know it's harder to score but still..it's another question mark to add.

Our prospect pool is interesting though, I will agree, but it's not franchise-changing. We should keep building around it though. We should be building around the 25 and under group. Everyone else is up for grabs. Actually even Domi and Drouin...these guys aren't going to lead us anywhere so I would be open to moving them too.
 
Kind of interesting how team has taken a complete nosedive since Subban trade. Not to imply causality but ... :dunno:

Subban was simply not the problem on that team. But, it doesn't look that bad because his career seems derailed...

IMO, Bergerin inherited a much better team than the mess it was in 2011-2012 and managed to making it far worse when he made it to his image. This is especially bad when you look at the Habs prospect pool, which isn't that impressive.
 
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Kind of interesting how team has taken a complete nosedive since Subban trade. Not to imply causality but ... :dunno:

I would argue it was actually losing Markov that caused the team to nosedive. He had started to slow down his last years with us which is when the team started to struggle.

We more or less replaced Subban with Weber, but nobody has replaced Markov.
 
I would argue it was actually losing Markov that caused the team to nosedive. He had started to slow down his last years with us which is when the team started to struggle.

We more or less replaced Subban with Weber, but nobody has replaced Markov.

Yes and no.

The team needed both of Markov and Radulov in 2017 ... To get destroyed in the first round.
 
Yes and no.

The team needed both of Markov and Radulov in 2017 ... To get destroyed in the first round.

Markov was already starting to show his age by 2017, he was still a good player but he was no longer a dominant top-pairing D-man. So we were losing him to age at that point anyways, our failure was to replace prime Markov.
 
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Markov was already starting to show his age by 2017, he was still a good player but he was no longer a dominant top-pairing D-man. So we were losing him to age at that point anyways, our failure was to replace prime Markov.

I don't have a counterargument.
 
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so incredibly embarrassing that these quotes come from the pens and never from the mouth of molson or bergevin. pathetic Penguins: une culture de champions

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habs: culture of excuses

winning start at top, why i always talk of masai ujiri, who is not afraid to say that nothing less then winning a chip is worth anything. Such confidence positiveness becomes engraved in the franchise and through all players.

Our habs, make playoffs and you never know, they even removed the " no excuse " slogan
 
And yet, MB can't do this.....


Crosby down for more than 1/2 of their gms. Malkin, Guentzel, Letang, Hornqvist missing significant time. But the Pens keep rolling and it’s not just because of depth. It’s about what they expect of themselves from the top down
 
Markov was already starting to show his age by 2017, he was still a good player but he was no longer a dominant top-pairing D-man. So we were losing him to age at that point anyways, our failure was to replace prime Markov.
there is no excuse for keeping cap room for 3 seasons , this is a no balls team, and again it starts from the top.The problem starts and ends with molson.
 
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