Pre-Game Talk: Maple leafs vs Penguins tuesday gezame

[Burnie97]

hope so... need a few guys to step up. Lilly has been pretty good overall.

 

[Nhlpowerweek]

hope so... need a few guys to step up. Lilly has been pretty good overall.

I find it odd and wrong for even to have to/select to say something like:"they are still responding to the coach...." etc. Of course they should be its their job and its the pecking order. Rare dirt if you ask me. Poor interview by dubas. "Still responsive..." ok. What about next week lol?

 

[Eye Test]

Win please

 

[1specter]

What more does Steeves have to do to get a look? Or even Joey Anderson? I know they like Holmberg's versatility with his ability to play C, but Engvall has played well at C over the last week and it looks like Holmberg is being slotted at wing anyways...so what's the point? Steeves has earned a shot, he had a decent camp and has been on fire to start the AHL season, and also brings an element of physicality and grit. This love for Holmberg is rather strange considering that he's also older than Steeves.

 

[BallardEra]

Curious to see how this plays out tomorrow night with Murray in net.

Pens looked bad against the Habs and they'll come out hard to start the game for sure.

 

[Nineteen67]

I find it odd and wrong for even to have to/select to say something like:"they are still responding to the coach...." etc. Of course they should be its their job and its the pecking order. Rare dirt if you ask me. Poor interview by dubas. "Still responsive..." ok. What about next week lol?

What was the question that spurred that answer?

 

[therealkoho]

Leafs treatment of Robertson continues to be brutal. Not saying he’s been good but it’s hard to build on anything when you’re yo-yo’d in and out of the lineup.

I hear what you're saying, but Robbie also has to start playing within the Leafs system(positioning, schemes, defensive responsibilities) everytime he's on the ice and not just sometimes.

I think he's pressing a little too much to score sometimes and isn't getting the grade "A" opportunities because of not being in the right place, he also tends to scramble too much in the defensive zone. Seriously try to think or picture something he's done in the Leafs end, a pass or shot block, interrupting a cycle, pouncing on a loose puck and getting it up and out.

Learning how to play offence get's you to the NHL, learning how to defend keeps you there.

 

[TS Quint]

So Benn is up with Reilly? does that seem like an opportunity to take Sandin’s spot when Brodie comes back?

 

[BallardEra]

Pens have the 8th best goals per game in the league and also the 9th worst goals allowed per game too.

 

[IPS]

Step 2 is to explore the trade market?

This guy really doesn't have a f***ing clue Everyone and their dog can see this D in its current form ain't gonna cut it.

 

[BallardEra]

Step 2 is to explore the trade market?

This guy really doesn't have a f***ing clue Everyone and their dog can see this D in its current form ain't gonna cut it.

To be fair I'm sure he knows that but at the same time you don't want to sound desperate to your rival GMs.

 

[BigGulpsEh]

From the way Sandin has played this year I have doubts he can step it up in brodie's absence

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Step 2 is to explore the trade market?

This guy really doesn't have a f***ing clue Everyone and their dog can see this D in its current form ain't gonna cut it.

I mean I'm all for saying we're giving Sandin and Liljegren the chance to step it up and they are awesome as a pair, but Keefe putting Benn with Rielly indicates that thesr two likely won't see more than 16-17 minutes a night, maybe less.

I would be shocked if Gio-Holl are his 3rd pair and Rielly isn't playing less than 20.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

I hear what you're saying, but Robbie also has to start playing within the Leafs system(positioning, schemes, defensive responsibilities) everytime he's on the ice and not just sometimes.

I think he's pressing a little too much to score sometimes and isn't getting the grade "A" opportunities because of not being in the right place, he also tends to scramble too much in the defensive zone. Seriously try to think or picture something he's done in the Leafs end, a pass or shot block, interrupting a cycle, pouncing on a loose puck and getting it up and out.

Learning how to play offence get's you to the NHL, learning how to defend keeps you there.

Robertson needs to learn when to cut his losses on the forcheck. He regularly continues to press the opponent after his body positioning makes him completely ineffective. Once he loses position he has to shift to plan B, be it moving into a lane to close off an outlet option or simply down the ice to clog up the neutral zone and re-engage once he's on the right side of the puck. As of now he continues to attempt to physically engage but because he's so small and he's basically already beaten he's outmuscled until he ends up on his ass in the opponents d-zone. It's the worst possible outcome of an aggressive forcheck.

 

[Griffin76]

I find it odd and wrong for even to have to/select to say something like:"they are still responding to the coach...." etc. Of course they should be its their job and its the pecking order. Rare dirt if you ask me. Poor interview by dubas. "Still responsive..." ok. What about next week lol?

That is probably the most comprehensible thing you've ever typed. Well done sire.

 

[egd27]

Step 2 is to explore the trade market?

This guy really doesn't have a f***ing clue Everyone and their dog can see this D in its current form ain't gonna cut it.

To be fair I'm sure he knows that but at the same time you don't want to sound desperate to your rival GMs.

You think he's fooling them with that 4D chess move of not sounding desperate?
Trade is Step 2 because there is nothing that anyone wants that the Leafs can afford to give up.

 

[Nhlpowerweek]

That is probably the most comprehensible thing you've ever typed. Well done sire.

Thank you mucho much there! I is so much trying to use more brain and really put the pieces of the puzzle together. Its very hard at times. But when human is sober for a long time and eats fresh, even some New brain cells start to grow. Not much, but some. Dandelions, burdock root, goji and rasberry and nettle help too.

 

[rocketman588]

In terested to see how Murray holds up tomorrow

If he's as bad as he was during the Habs game we should just convince him to be injured full time

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Play better and you'll stay in the lineup.
He certainly hasn't earned the right to have a spot handed to him.

You know who else looked like crap for a long time before he felt comfortable and was effective? Liljegren. They finally stuck with him in the lineup after yo-yoing him too for years and now he’s a top four defenseman. And he made plenty of mistakes too.

If they want Robertson to end up a tweener then they should keep doing what they’re doing. If they want him to be an actual offensive threat they should be consistent with him. If they don’t want to wait for him to develop then package him in a trade for a player who can score right now.

 

[ToneDog]

You think he's fooling them with that 4D chess move of not sounding desperate?
Trade is Step 2 because there is nothing that anyone wants that the Leafs can afford to give up.

Kyle can try to bluff all he wants but everybody knows he only has a pair of twos.

 

[therealkoho]

Robertson needs to learn when to cut his losses on the forcheck. He regularly continues to press the opponent after his body positioning makes him completely ineffective. Once he loses position he has to shift to plan B, be it moving into a lane to close off an outlet option or simply down the ice to clog up the neutral zone and re-engage once he's on the right side of the puck. As of now he continues to attempt to physically engage but because he's so small and he's basically already beaten he's outmuscled until he ends up on his ass in the opponents d-zone. It's the worst possible outcome of an aggressive forcheck.

Yep all that too, and that's also a result of not following the game plan

 

[ACC1224]

You know who else looked like crap for a long time before he felt comfortable and was effective? Liljegren. They finally stuck with him in the lineup after yo-yoing him too for years and now he’s a top four defenseman. And he made plenty of mistakes too.

If they want Robertson to end up a tweener then they should keep doing what they’re doing. If they want him to be an actual offensive threat they should be consistent with him. If they don’t want to wait for him to develop then package him in a trade for a player who can score right now.

Liljegren looks great, seems like they did a great job developing him.

 

[therealkoho]

What more does Steeves have to do to get a look? Or even Joey Anderson? I know they like Holmberg's versatility with his ability to play C, but Engvall has played well at C over the last week and it looks like Holmberg is being slotted at wing anyways...so what's the point? Steeves has earned a shot, he had a decent camp and has been on fire to start the AHL season, and also brings an element of physicality and grit. This love for Holmberg is rather strange considering that he's also older than Steeves.

Do all those guys have NHL contracts

 

[therealkoho]

Thank you mucho much there! I is so much trying to use more brain and really put the pieces of the puzzle together. Its very hard at times. But when human is sober for a long time and eats fresh, even some New brain cells start to grow. Not much, but some. Dandelions, burdock root, goji and rasberry and nettle help too.

I understand it being "mucho much" but shouldn't it also be "much mucho" seeing as all things are being equal?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Do all those guys have NHL contracts

Steves, Anderson and Holmberg do.