Management Thread | Regular Season Edition

theguardianII

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@F A N & @Jyrki21 I spent a lot of time over the last couple days trying to figure this out. I talked to a Penguins beat writer and on yesterday's Canucks Conversation David Quadrelli and Patrick Johnston added a bit more info. The short of it, when a player is sent down for cap purposes they do not have to report. However, if it is a game day in the AHL then they do have to report. When the Canucks first sent Brannstrom and Bains down, it wasn't a paper transaction and both had to report, according to Thomas Drance. No idea if they kept doing this or subsequent assignments were paper transactions.
I think some of this bouncing back and forth might be financially related. 80K isn't a lot of money and each day on the big club's roster is a massive pay increase.

With the cost of living in the Vancouver area that extra few grand really helps and what player with a family or not really wants to live on the edge.
 
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Hodgy

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What I saw was quite a bit worse than that. I'm not grabbing my pitchfork yet, maybe he comes back Dec 3 at 100%. But it's close at hand, it's entirely believable to me that they majorly bungled another injury on this team.
There was that one time, I think with the Higgins injury, that they hired what appears to be a doctor that was t competent, and I think in circumstances like that it’s more than fair to criticize management.

But if they hire objectively competent doctors and follow their advice then notwithstanding the consequences it’s hard to fault them imo. Was there another circumstance other than Higgins?
 

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I think some of this bouncing back and forth might be financially related. 80K isn't a lot of money and each day on the big club's roster is a massive pay increase.

With the cost of living in the Vancouver area that extra few grand really helps and what player with a family or not really wants to live on the edge.

It goes both ways. With the bouncing up and down Bains and others have done, it helps the Canucks cap picture for the deadline but hits the players wallet.

But calling up a guy like Elias Pettersson for a few days, not playing him, he still gets rewarded with some extra money.
 
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Vector

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It goes both ways. With the bouncing up and down Bains and others have done, it helps the Canucks cap picture for the deadline but hits the players wallet.

But calling up a guy like Elias Pettersson for a few days, not playing him, he still gets rewarded with some extra money.

They’ve also had a couple opportunities where hey could have sent players down on off-days and didn’t.
 

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Caps fan here making a friendly inquiry about a possible deal for Conor Garland? In exchange the main piece would be your choice of our surplus of top-4 D-men, Rasmus Sandin or Martin Fehervary. Sandin has been excellent this year but comes with a bigger contract. Fehervary is a better skater and better defensively, plus being cheaper but will probably never carry a pair but can easily handle hard assignments.
I’m open to expand the trade to make it work for both teams both value- and needs wise.
 

mathonwy

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Caps fan here making a friendly inquiry about a possible deal for Conor Garland? In exchange the main piece would be your choice of our surplus of top-4 D-men, Rasmus Sandin or Martin Fehervary. Sandin has been excellent this year but comes with a bigger contract. Fehervary is a better skater and better defensively, plus being cheaper but will probably never carry a pair but can easily handle hard assignments.
I’m open to expand the trade to make it work for both teams both value- and needs wise.
3rd round pick would have done it last season.
 

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Caps fan here making a friendly inquiry about a possible deal for Conor Garland? In exchange the main piece would be your choice of our surplus of top-4 D-men, Rasmus Sandin or Martin Fehervary. Sandin has been excellent this year but comes with a bigger contract. Fehervary is a better skater and better defensively, plus being cheaper but will probably never carry a pair but can easily handle hard assignments.
I’m open to expand the trade to make it work for both teams both value- and needs wise.

Any estimation right now?

I think Garland for Fehervary/Sandin 1 for 1 with or without some throwins is fair value from the Canucks' end.

From our end, it's difficult to predict trade value. Before it sure sounded like the Canucks wanted to dump Garland but Garland was a driving force being what was one of the best 3rd lines in hockey last season. Certainly it appears that Tocchet loves him but I'm not sure management does.

I would image that Fehervary being more attractive to the Canucks but Sandin is the more talented player. I feel it has more to do with who management sees as the better top 4 option. It's the same with Capitals management? Sandin is at all viewed as good defensively his value should be higher than Fehervary. Fehervary

As you can see, our management has preferred big defensive Dmen but we've had issues with our bottom 4 not being able to move the puck. That's why Brannstrom is getting a lot of love here. So which Dman would Canucks' management prefer? I don't know. I would lean towards Fehervary being preferred. Personally, I think Sandin with Willander as a future pairing might make more sense than Fehervary with Willander but Fehervary is cheaper (which is important with the OEL buyout) and he can shoulder a defensive role and PK.
 

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Any estimation right now?
He's probably not available. He carried the team for half the year last year and got a big ice time bump this year, so far he's averaging the most ice time at ES of any forward on the team which indicates to me that the team finally recognizes his importance. He's a line driver, scores even strength points at a first line rate and does it without needing the big guns on the ice with him to do it. Biggest heart on the team and a lot of nights he's the guy dragging the team into the fight. Generally near the top of the league for penalties drawn because he gets mugged out there every night. I'd be shocked if we traded him.

Hoglander is the winger that's available right now and I'd imagine he'd be cheap.
 

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