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credulous
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i think the only reasonable path forward is to place aquilini, jr, allvin, tocchet and probably like castonguay, granato and the golfing doc harry sese in stocks in robson square so we can all go pelt them with rotten fruit
The management team is probably above average when it comes to roster management, trades, contracts, pro and amateur scouting. Issue they are absolute ass with PR & media management and if they don’t fix that, that will lead to their downfall.
Glennis the Menace
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This we agree on. Ruthervin's PR has been very poor and it's a significant handicap in a hockey-crazy market. These recent leaks in particular have been very bad.
mriswith
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I'd also split the pro scouting grade with forward pro scouting being quite good, and defense pro scouting being quite bad.
rypper
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Well I think they nailed all the D acquisition last season so they can identify good d. I think strategy is the bigger issue because someone the were convinced that size > puck moving.
Yeah they need to recognize that the Vancouver media will gladly run with stories that will burn the team down because they really don’t give a f*** about the well being of the team and fans.
mriswith
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I liked what they did last year but the other two years have sucked. At the end of the day, 1 legitimate top 4 d added in 3 years tenure while paying a ton of futures/buyouts to try and compete, when the entire problem with the team on day 1 was the defense needed a full rebuild, gets them a failing grade from me.
PuckMunchkin
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I honestly have no idea what direction this team should now take.
Cant rebuild.
Dont have enough talent.
The players do not like competing together.
Dont have any significant prospects or picks.
Stuck.
Cant rebuild.
Dont have enough talent.
The players do not like competing together.
Dont have any significant prospects or picks.
Stuck.
bandwagonesque
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Bleach Clean
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Rachel, Bruce, Petterson, Miller...
Some PR nightmares.
Anyone remember why Rutherford stepped away from Pittsburgh?
Some PR nightmares.
Anyone remember why Rutherford stepped away from Pittsburgh?
I think their pro scouting has still been ok. Forbort has been good for the price, and Myers’ contract is fair-ish. Desharnais was a swing and miss but no team is going to bat 1.000.
The problem has been more on the allocation of resources across the roster, which falls to management.
I don’t have a huge problem with any of our dman in a vacuum. Even Juulsen, but as a hole it’s dreadful.
Ernie
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The mistake was hiring her in the first place. I don't agree with the hate she gets but she's clearly not someone who does well within an organizational framework.
Reverend Mayhem
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me2
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They haven't done a good enough job, they need PR to spin their way out of it.
Their first 12 months was a dithering mess.
Their 2nd 12 months was solid.
Their 3rd 12 months have is a Benning level defence and trying to trade both top 6 centres. One of whom has been trade bait for 3 years and wants out but can't seem to get away.
I'm not sure how PR is going to make the hockey less dull, the team is simply boring to watch. We have become one of those teams we used to hate to play because the games terrible to watch. Thank goodness for Hughes.
Management might not be making the consistently bad moves Benning made, I guess there is that. OTOH after 3 years is it's hard to say they have a determined plan or a direction they are working towards. Blown about by fate rather than making their own.
PuckMunchkin
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The mistake was how they handled her firing and the PR disaster that followed.
Its a pattern.
I think the Canucks' management, more than previous regimes, are particularly controlling about who gets to talk to the media. You only hear Allvin, Rutherford, and Tocchet speak. When was the last time Granato sat for an interview unrelated to her hockey playing accomplishments? Or Castonguay?
I think it's difficult for someone like Doerrie not to promote herself. When Ryan Biech joined the Canucks he deleted his then twitter account and we haven't really heard from him since. I'm not sure if expectations were explained to Doerrie.
What mistake(s) did they make in handling her firing? What would you suggest the Canucks to have done differently?
PuckMunchkin
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Pay her off.
Come up with a story that the parting was amicable. Run that as the headline.
I could be wrong, but I'm under the impression that she was paid what she was due under her contract. I don't believe she is suing to be paid what she was due or for severance etc.
Are you suggesting that the Canucks should pay her off to keep her mouth shut? That also requires her to have threatened that as well.
PuckMunchkin
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I am.
Or in other ways make the parting not as devastating to her career and reputation.
Not really.
I dont think the concept is complicated enough to warrant a discussion.
This happens all the time in business with high PR profile.
What are the other ways?
Enlighten me here. So it is customary for hockey teams letting go of employees and paying out their contracts to sign an agreement not to file a Human Rights complaint? I'm not sure that it does happen all the time.
