Value of: Malkin for Monahan

[nhlfan9191]

Considering we just had a rare one on one trade for #1 defenceman for #1 defenseman of different ages but fit current teams needs. Could a trade like this honestly work for an older center still capable of being one of the best of the league for a younger one?

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[Kudo Shinichi]

Both team refuses
Pens are in win mode now, Monahan is just a downgrade
Flames are a young team and aren't contenders yet, so they might want to keep Monahan

 

[hamzarocks]

Only if the flames do gaudreau for haglein

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Love Monahan, but no.

 

[Drew4u]

Considering how much Malkin gets injured, it makes sence for the Pens. They get a younger, cheaper player, who is strong defensively. Monahan has the potential to score 70+ points. And he's only 21. I would do this in a heartbeat if I were Rutherford. In the flames perspective, doesn't make any sence. They are not a contending team. Value wise, it's pretty even. But need wise, doesn't make sence for the flames.

 

[flyersfan018]

Why does Calgary want 30 year old Malkin?

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Considering how much Malkin gets injured, it makes sence for the Pens. They get a younger, cheaper player, who is strong defensively. Monahan has the potential to score 70+ points. And he's only 21. I would do this in a heartbeat if I were Rutherford. In the flames perspective, doesn't make any sence. They are not a contending team. Value wise, it's pretty even. But need wise, doesn't make sence for the flames.

Malkin regularly scores what you say Monahan has the potential to score despite his injuries, and he does it with a couple of fire hydrants on his wings rather than Gaudreau.

We want to win now - Malkin is the better choice to help us do that. Calgary should be peaking in a few years - Monahan is the better choice to help them do that.

 

[Ezekial]

I don't get it for either team. Look no further than Kawa.

 

[Boumsalot]

I'd do it as a flames fan, but it is an easy no from PIT.

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

Avs get screwed.

 

[DearDiary]

Considering how much Malkin gets injured, it makes sence for the Pens. They get a younger, cheaper player, who is strong defensively. Monahan has the potential to score 70+ points. And he's only 21. I would do this in a heartbeat if I were Rutherford. In the flames perspective, doesn't make any sence. They are not a contending team. Value wise, it's pretty even. But need wise, doesn't make sence for the flames.

Aware us all on how Monohan scores 70+ points with 2 bottom 6 wingers on the Pens.

In reality we'd be looking at

Monohan 45 points
Kunitz 30 points
Rust 25 points

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Why would the Flames refuse? If that's youth they want, they could take Malkin and trade him again to upgrade Monahan.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

I'd do it as a flames fan, but it is an easy no from PIT.

I'd do it if we got a one year takeback. Seeing Malkin and Johnny on the same line would be special, but then he would turn 31.

Aware us all on how Monohan scores 70+ points with 2 bottom 6 wingers on the Pens.

In reality we'd be looking at

Monohan 45 points
Kunitz 30 points
Rust 25 points

Monahan was at about a 50 point pace with Paul Byron and Curtis Glencross flanking him about a year ago, and he's improved since then.

Malkin is easily better but let's also be fair, Malkin plays with some great players on that power play unit himself.

 

[Connor]

Considering how much Malkin gets injured, it makes sence for the Pens. They get a younger, cheaper player, who is strong defensively. Monahan has the potential to score 70+ points. And he's only 21. I would do this in a heartbeat if I were Rutherford. In the flames perspective, doesn't make any sence. They are not a contending team. Value wise, it's pretty even. But need wise, doesn't make sence for the flames.

Monahan has been below average defensively thus far in his NHL career AND if the Penguins are getting trading Malkin FOR Monahan without Gadreau expect a very steep decline in 2nd line production.

 

[DJJones]

Obviously Malkin is better but it makes no sense for Calgary.

 

[catnip]

This kind of makes sense for Pittsburgh but I'm not sure why Calgary would bother.

 

[DearDiary]

Monahan was at about a 50 point pace with Paul Byron and Curtis Glencross flanking him about a year ago, and he's improved since then.

Malkin is easily better but let's also be fair, Malkin plays with some great players on that power play unit himself.

Total 5on5 points per season and the wingers most minutes played with 5on5

2013 - 24 points 5on5
Colbourne 397:04
Hudler - 363:30

2014 - 32 points 5on5
Hudler 584:48
Gaudreau 528:46

2015 - 37 points 5on5
Gaudreau 966:49
Hudler 471:49

Paul Byron and Curtis Glencross nowhere near the top in any year. I love it when people make up facts and think no one is smart enough to look up them up

 

[HarrySPlinkett]

Total 5on5 points per season and the wingers most minutes played with 5on5

2013 - 24 points 5on5
Colbourne 397:04
Hudler - 363:30

2014 - 32 points 5on5
Hudler 584:48
Gaudreau 528:46

2015 - 37 points 5on5
Gaudreau 966:49
Hudler 471:49

Paul Byron and Curtis Glencross nowhere near the top in any year. I love it when people make up facts and think no one is smart enough to look up them up

It doesn't matter. Monahan is a stud and the Flames aren't trading the next Bergeron for a 30 year old Malkin.

 

[DearDiary]

It doesn't matter. Monahan is a stud and the Flames aren't trading the next Bergeron for a 30 year old Malkin.

Last I checked, the next Bergeron is Barkov... not the center that relies heavily on his linemates, relies mostly on the powerplay for offense and average defensive numbers.

Monohan is a great player, but all you do by overrating him is make other teams posters view him in a poorer light.

 

[Legend123]

the easiest no from pits. Not only would flames have to add alot, it makes no sense for pits. Malkin can produce at an elite level with decent linemates. Monahan hasnt shown that and prob cant and thats what he would have to do in pits. Plus, monahan skillset comes nowhere close to that of malkin.

 

[East Coast Icestyle]

While I appreciate how awesome Malkin is, I love Monahan too much. He has potential to be a 40 goal scorer in his career. Maybe not more than 60-70 points, but he is average defensively and will get better as most centres do.

He's our only pure goalscorer and he's probably our future captain.

 

[HarrySPlinkett]

Last I checked, the next Bergeron is Barkov... not the center that relies heavily on his linemates, relies mostly on the powerplay for offense and average defensive numbers.

Monohan is a great player, but all you do by overrating him is make other teams posters view him in a poorer light.

Monahan had 20 PP points and 43 at even strength, so you need to explain how a scoring better than 2/3rds of his points 5v5 equates to relying mostly on the power play.

You don't want to call him Bergeron, fine. The Flames still aren't trading a 21 year old 30/30 #1C for 30 year old Evgeni Malkin.

 

[Legend123]

Last I checked, the next Bergeron is Barkov... not the center that relies heavily on his linemates, relies mostly on the powerplay for offense and average defensive numbers.

Monohan is a great player, but all you do by overrating him is make other teams posters view him in a poorer light.

lol nice assessment of monahan and the flames fan base! Spot on!

The next bergeron

Barkov isnt similar to bergeron tho. Has more offense with less defense. Tho he does provide good D and doesnt rely on his linemates at all to produce. He's one of the best younger players in the league.

 

[K Fleur]

How about if Pitt adds Crosby? I mean they'd be getting the next Bergeron(apparently) and they'd only have to give away 2 two 30 year old players. Sounds like a steal.

This section continues to provide the most insight into the mind of the delusional (homer in most cases)hockey fan.

 

[blueberrie]

Why wouldnt Calgary take this? Malkins on an entirely different level than Monahan and its not like theyre early in their rebuild.