Confirmed with Link: Maatta traded to Utah for a 3rd Round Pick

[jkutswings]

Confidence in a kid they've given less than 40 minutes of ice time so far this season?
Confidence in a kid who wasn't put on the roster until his waiver eligibility was up?

Unless another move happens in the next day or two, there's no urgency to deal Maatta or to acquire a third round pick, so I'm struggling to find another explanation.

And you're also assuming that the person in charge of ice time (Lalonde) and the person who just freed up a roster spot (Yzerman) are in agreement about Johansson. I'm not saying there's evidence that they disagree, but I don't think we can take it for granted that they're on the same page either.

Let's see how this week plays out. If they swing a trade for a defender, then I guess the kid is still in limbo. But if Johansson suddenly maintains more ice time, then maybe there's not only some contention regarding player deployment, but Yzerman is willing to force the issue.

 

[1878rgw]

Ice time for Johansson, Kasper can get a regular roster spot, not an emergency one and we can shift Kanes bonus to this year if there is no trade for another D-men. Sounds good to me.

 

[raymond23]

Unless another move happens in the next day or two, there's no urgency to deal Maatta or to acquire a third round pick, so I'm struggling to find another explanation.

And you're also assuming that the person in charge of ice time (Lalonde) and the person who just freed up a roster spot (Yzerman) are in agreement about Johansson. I'm not saying there's evidence that they disagree, but I don't think we can take it for granted that they're on the same page either.

Let's see how this week plays out. If they swing a trade for a defender, then I guess the kid is still in limbo. But if Johansson suddenly maintains more ice time, then maybe there's not only some contention regarding player deployment, but Yzerman is willing to force the issue.

Fair points

I do think there was urgency to to ship out a dman because Motte will be back from injury and Kasper is staying up

Edit: also that’s nice they can use Kane’s bonus on this years cap now

 

[RRhoads]

Ice time for Johansson, Kasper can get a regular roster spot, not an emergency one and we can shift Kanes bonus to this year if there is no trade for another D-men. Sounds good to me.

Yeah, these are my thoughts as well.

 

[wingsfannn919191]

Great deal. Might have got a 6th or 7th at well at the deadline but it Gives Johansson some playing time and maybe some games later on to someone like wallinder

Now move copp

 

[GarlicbreadTB]

Great deal. Might have got a 6th or 7th at well at the deadline but it Gives Johansson some playing time and maybe some games later on to someone like wallinder

Now move copp

Copp probably won't go anywhere until they buy him out. But they clearly think he serves a purpose so doubt that will happen soon.

 

[ColdToiletSeats]

Great deal. Might have got a 6th or 7th at well at the deadline but it Gives Johansson some playing time and maybe some games later on to someone like wallinder

Now move copp

but Copp is leading the team with Goals... I guess trade now while he's on "fire" lol

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

but Copp is leading the team with Goals... I guess trade now while he's on "fire" lol

Honestly if Copp keeps scoring it's better than we could ever imagine. His actual value and trade values both go up. I hope he scores 30 goals this year.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Myself and a couple of other posters who have gotten information from people associated with the team have explicitly stated why he was traded (he did something that landed him in the "locker room cancer" bin). It's been said multiple times over several months. But you know that. You've heard (read) it, you just refuse to accept it.

I realize this, I just am not sure whatever it was was justified.

 

[sepster]

I realize this, I just am not sure whatever it was was justified.

Not viewing it as justified is perfectly reasonable. That's not the same thing as saying you've not seen a good explanation.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Not viewing it as justified is perfectly reasonable. That's not the same thing as saying you've not seen a good explanation.

What I meant by what I said was I’ve heard explanations, but I don’t think they are good ones because they don’t seem reasonable or justified.

 

[wingsfannn919191]

Copp probably won't go anywhere until they buy him out. But they clearly think he serves a purpose so doubt that will happen soon.

I know he wont lol one can dream yzerman retains 2 mill and moves him though

 

[wingsfannn919191]

Honestly if Copp keeps scoring it's better than we could ever imagine. His actual value and trade values both go up. I hope he scores 30 goals this year.

Hope lol better start hoping players start shooting pucks off his knee caps and faces and hope they get deflected in lmao

 

[Retire91]

I was kind of happy to get Matta since he was wrapped up in Holland gift wrapping that first rounder to Tampa for KFQ that ultimately became Vasalevski for Tampa. Felt like Closure

I wondered at the time if that trade didn't happen would we have likely drafted Matta? Yzerman probably knew a bit about Matta because I am sure they scouted him with that pick at the time.

Best of luck Matta thanks for your service.

 

[TCNorthstars]

What I meant by what I said was I’ve heard explanations, but I don’t think they are good ones because they don’t seem reasonable or justified.

Justified to you. It was clearly justified to the Wings GM.