LW Samuel Poulin - Sherbrooke Phoenix, QMJHL (2019, 21st, PIT)

[CrosbyMalkin]

What an amazing goal. The initial move to beat the defender was sick in itself. Then the rest happened. He will be good one.

If Poulin keeps up this pace around 2 points a game for the season how does that change his ranking in a fictional redraft? He was his teams captain and by far leading scorer last year but his bad team kept his numbers down. This year his team is much better and I think your seeing his real upside. 16 goals and 37 points in 19 games for an 18 year old with his leadership ability, hockey IQ, and size jumps him up several spots if they had a redraft today in my opinion. The big if is if he can sustain this pace.

The same example but the exact opposite is happening with Legare who was one of the leading goal scorers last year when on a good team and now has 9 goals and 18 points in 20 games. That's why scouts have to look much more than just production. Legare had a great camp with the Pens so I am not worried about him as a prospect but Poulin is the better prospect because he is a complete player. Legare will be a supporting type player if he makes it to the NHL using his shot and nose for the net to help a scoring line. Poulin is the complete package. What kind of NHL player does he compare to if he developed to his best upside?

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

Maybe Bill Guerin?

 

[BKarchitect]

Poulin is having a great year but so are a ton of other picks. McMichael, Rees, Tracey...I mean there’s a dozen guys in just the CHL alone you could make the case for “jumping” up in a redraft.

I’d say be very excited and encouraged - he looks like a blue chipper - but way, way too early to even consider what would happen in redraft. I wager most teams and fans are probably pretty bullish on their top picks 20 games into the season.

 

[CrosbyMalkin]

Poulin is having a great year but so are a ton of other picks. McMichael, Rees, Tracey...I mean there’s a dozen guys in just the CHL alone you could make the case for “jumping” up in a redraft.

I’d say be very excited and encouraged - he looks like a blue chipper - but way, way too early to even consider what would happen in redraft. I wager most teams and fans are probably pretty bullish on their top picks 20 games into the season.

I would disagree in that while some prospects make the big jump in point production many don't. For example Addison from the Pens has stayed stagnant in his point production since his draft year. Others like Legare have actually produced much less so far. Another prospect the Pens just traded for POJ has also seen his numbers stagnate since his draft year. So making a huge jump in production after your draft year is a nice thing to see and is something to get excited about. We are taking about a guy that was just a little above a point a game now producing around two points a game and also 16 goals in his first 19 games. That is pretty impressive jump in production and the big if is can he keep that production up.

If Poulin does keep it up he certainly jumps up as a top 10 type pick at that point. Poulin was drafted in his spot because of all his other attributes and you add to that more of an elite type point producer to go with the leadership team Captain at 17 and his high hockey IQ and NHL body 6'2" 216 pounds that production would of put him way higher in the draft. The big if is can he keep it but this is a great start and definitely not the norm for most of our Pens prospects through the years.

 

[Tryamkin]

I would disagree in that while some prospects make the big jump in point production many don't. For example Addison from the Pens has stayed stagnant in his point production since his draft year. Others like Legare have actually produced much less so far. Another prospect the Pens just traded for POJ has also seen his numbers stagnate since his draft year. So making a huge jump in production after your draft year is a nice thing to see and is something to get excited about. We are taking about a guy that was just a little above a point a game now producing around two points a game and also 16 goals in his first 19 games. That is pretty impressive jump in production and the big if is can he keep that production up.

If Poulin does keep it up he certainly jumps up as a top 10 type pick at that point. Poulin was drafted in his spot because of all his other attributes and you add to that more of an elite type point producer to go with the leadership team Captain at 17 and his high hockey IQ and NHL body 6'2" 216 pounds that production would of put him way higher in the draft. The big if is can he keep it but this is a great start and definitely not the norm for most of our Pens prospects through the years.

Top 10 type pick? Sorry but no. There’s so many factors into a players points production. What happens if you switch Legare and Poulin? Last year Legare had guys like Chekhovich. This year he’s got not much. Poulin’s team is destroying.

 

[Vachon23]

Top 10 type pick? Sorry but no. There’s so many factors into a players points production. What happens if you switch Legare and Poulin? Last year Legare had guys like Chekhovich. This year he’s got not much. Poulin’s team is destroying.

He’s the reason why Sherbrooke are so good

 

[Jacob]

Production-wise playing with two overagers probably doesn’t hurt.. but he had the same linemates last season and he led Sherbrooke in points by a good margin. This year he’s still at a higher PPG than his linemates but not by nearly the same margin.

 

[BKarchitect]

I would disagree in that while some prospects make the big jump in point production many don't. For example Addison from the Pens has stayed stagnant in his point production since his draft year. Others like Legare have actually produced much less so far. Another prospect the Pens just traded for POJ has also seen his numbers stagnate since his draft year. So making a huge jump in production after your draft year is a nice thing to see and is something to get excited about. We are taking about a guy that was just a little above a point a game now producing around two points a game and also 16 goals in his first 19 games. That is pretty impressive jump in production and the big if is can he keep that production up.

If Poulin does keep it up he certainly jumps up as a top 10 type pick at that point. Poulin was drafted in his spot because of all his other attributes and you add to that more of an elite type point producer to go with the leadership team Captain at 17 and his high hockey IQ and NHL body 6'2" 216 pounds that production would of put him way higher in the draft. The big if is can he keep it but this is a great start and definitely not the norm for most of our Pens prospects through the years.

No disrespect to Poulin, he’s a stud. But who are the 10+ prospects he’s passing? And how can you leap to such conclusions after a quarter of a season?

There’s guys drafted AFTER Poulin who have had just as big an impact. McMichael, Bjornfot, etc. I’m not saying I’d take them before Poulin but I’d also not jump to the conclusion after 20 games that Poulin leaps 10-15 guys himself.

 

[Jacob]

It really seems like a lot of guys are having great starts to their post draft seasons.. most of the names that were either rumored to be on the Penguins radar at 21 or were picked in mock drafts are having huge years. Harley, McMichael, Kaliyev, Lavoie, Heinola.. and guys like Brink, Suzuki and Tomasino haven’t really hurt their rankings either.

Just stats-watching but I don’t really see anyone picked ahead of him that’s hurt their stock except maybe Boldy and Podkolzin.

 

[CrosbyMalkin]

No disrespect to Poulin, he’s a stud. But who are the 10+ prospects he’s passing? And how can you leap to such conclusions after a quarter of a season?

There’s guys drafted AFTER Poulin who have had just as big an impact. McMichael, Bjornfot, etc. I’m not saying I’d take them before Poulin but I’d also not jump to the conclusion after 20 games that Poulin leaps 10-15 guys himself.

If you read my post you would see the big part of the question was "if he kept up producing at that two point a game rate". I am not jumping to any conclusions but hypothetically bringing up a scenario.

 

[Peat]

Does anybody know what his injury is?

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Scored 5 points tonight (3G+2A). He's been on a tear lately.

 

[wishywashy19]

Scored 5 points tonight (3G+2A). He's been on a tear lately.

he should have instead of taken some of the puddings they took
Still pissed at that snub

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

3 more points tonight. On an absolute heater with 10 goals, 19 points in last 5 games.

29 goals ties his total from last season, in 31 less games.

Has anyone watched much of him lately?

 

[HOPE]

3 more points tonight. On an absolute heater with 10 goals, 19 points in last 5 games.

29 goals ties his total from last season, in 31 less games.

Has anyone watched much of him lately?

no but he'll sure look good in a habs jersey at the trade deadline !!

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Poulin est récompensé pour son brio

Poulin's the forward of the month in the Q.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

no but he'll sure look good in a habs jersey at the trade deadline !!

Only if Gallagher looks good in a Pens jersey.

 

[brakeyawself]

Just curious how this kid is looking over the summer and pres so far. Had moderately high hopes for this kid and Pens seem like they could use some younger offense,

 

[Hockeyville USA]

I know he's dealt with personal struggles, but why has he failed to make it so far? Product of being better in a weak Q?

 

[SomeDude]

I know he's dealt with personal struggles, but why has he failed to make it so far? Product of being better in a weak Q?

Last year it looked like he was going to get some games and he ended up getting sick, IIRC. A combination of bad luck, injuries and the coaching staff doesn’t seem particularly high on him. Several players have gotten called up over him. Wouldn’t surprise me to see him waived or traded for a similar prospect after camp.

 

[Jacob]

I know he's dealt with personal struggles, but why has he failed to make it so far? Product of being better in a weak Q?

I think he’s on track to be a regular bottomer 6 this season. He’s generally done as well as can be expected in the AHL, not only a consistent producer on offense but killing penalties, winning faceoffs, etc.

Right now he may only be the 13th forward on the depth chart but the chances of all 12 guys ahead of him being healthy are slim so he should play. And he won’t be anchored by Carter (but still might be anchored by Acciari).

 

[Zirakzigil]

Saw him live against Calgary and loved the jam he played with. I think he has all the tools to be an effective 3rd line center.

 

[BKarchitect]

Still a notable prospect for me, if not ultimately the higher end version of the prospect projection. I mean he basically had a lost season in 22-23 and he came back last year and was really good in the AHL. I doubt the Pens would be happy to lose him to waivers and his game is suitable for a bottom six role as it is so it seems probable he will make the team with a good camp.

I would not be surprised if in 2-3 years we look up and see a player who has gone from high pick to perceived “bust” to eventually being a pretty good and versatile middle six NHLer.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

He always looked pretty decent in the AHL when I watched him play. It's just that the points weren't happening for him. Well, he looked decent after they scratched him and switched him to center in his first AHL season.

And then in his few NHL games he has looked capable.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

...why has he failed to make it so far?...

Mike. Sullivan.