LW Patrik Laine - Tappara, Liiga (2016 Draft) VI

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You also have to consider that one moved to a whole different country and had his first
Taste of playing in an adult league. Much harder transition.

Again if they played in the same league and laine out played him. Fine. If they had similar stats
When laine played in a better league (30g in ahl vs 30 in nhl). Fine

Matthews dominated him. But in a lower league. So its not as clear

Dominated? Laine is 7-8 months younger and just carried his team into Liiga championship. Won the "conn smythe trophy of Liiga" being MVP. He was basically same age compared to Matthews when he started his season. Do you think Laine had easy job to do what he did? He had huge injury ruining his last season and he had alot of personal difficulties. It's really hard to overcome those kind of issues when we are talking about 17 year old kid. How he answered? He came in much stronger and thinks he is unstoppable and has been dominating. Also in WJC Matthews has 2 points in 4 games against top teams compared to Laine who had 8 points in 4 games.
 
He's going to be surrounded by a lot of good players in Winnipeg too if they're not traded. He'll need the supporting cast as a winger and maybe Scheifele is good enough to centre him in the future, who knows.

Laine and Scheifele on the same line... Some work for defenders trying take out both their shots.
 
I definitely see some similarities to Kovalchuk when I watch Laine. Wicked shot that can beat you anywhere. Can see him being a ppg, 40g a year winger, deceptively fast skater for a big man who later on in his career refines his game to be more well rounded. Kovalchuk going #1 overall in 2002 but doubt that'll happen this year with Laine when Matthews is the consensus.

He's going to be surrounded by a lot of good players in Winnipeg too if they're not traded. He'll need the supporting cast as a winger and maybe Scheifele is good enough to centre him in the future, who knows.

My only concern with Laine is that everything he has achieved so far he didn it behind home crowd. All tournament it seems it's in Finland. There's always that home crowd factor with strong comfort zone and familiarity.

I have no doubt that he'll score some very good goals for jets this year. What a year this is going to be for Nhl. So much young talent coming up. Him and Ehler will be flying.
 
Laine and Scheifele on the same line... Some work for defenders trying take out both their shots.

And Ehlers on the other side. Three players with unbelievable releases. Someone's going to have the space to lean into one every shift.
 
I definitely see some similarities to Kovalchuk when I watch Laine. Wicked shot that can beat you anywhere. Can see him being a ppg, 40g a year winger, deceptively fast skater for a big man who later on in his career refines his game to be more well rounded. Kovalchuk going #1 overall in 2002 but doubt that'll happen this year with Laine when Matthews is the consensus.

He's going to be surrounded by a lot of good players in Winnipeg too if they're not traded. He'll need the supporting cast as a winger and maybe Scheifele is good enough to centre him in the future, who knows.

Dominated? Laine is 7-8 months younger and just carried his team into Liiga championship. Won the "conn smythe trophy of Liiga" being MVP. He was basically same age compared to Matthews when he started his season. Do you think Laine had easy job to do what he did? He had huge injury ruining his last season and he had alot of personal difficulties. It's really hard to overcome those kind of issues when we are talking about 17 year old kid. How he answered? He came in much stronger and thinks he is unstoppable and has been dominating. Also in WJC Matthews has 2 points in 4 games against top teams compared to Laine who had 8 points in 4 games.

Do you count the canada game where the goalies
Were changed twice and letting in beachballs?

Again. Matthews was the rising star and 2nd in MVP voting. He did okay too
 
Laine and Scheifele on the same line... Some work for defenders trying take out both their shots.

Scheif's shot has definitely improved since he's been in the show but his playmaking is what will get the most out of Laine. Finding wingers that can actually finish has been a problem of sorts over the course of the 5 years but that's about to end rather quickly. Laine, Connor and Ehlers transform our team.
 
He's gonna benefit a lot from playing with guys like Koivu and Barkov. In the first goal Barkov yealled from behind to make that drop pass. In the second there was a perfect pass from Koivu. We will see how well he'll do against better countries.

Yes, now Laine have skilled line mates WHC, not so much in FEL where he has just reagular level players with average playmaking skills. Matthews have best line mates in NLA which is not as close that compete league than FEL and now Matthews not have the best line mates WHC, but just regular level players.
 
To be fair. I might be. But i have watched enough clips of prospects like kapanen cutting through d there like its nothing. There
Was a whole sequence in that clip where the team looked
Like it had no idea how to play d

Kapanen scored 22g in 111 liiga games...
 
Laine's strength is definitely his shot. The rest of his game is very raw and rouph around the edges but if he can put it all together he'll be scary.
 
Laine's strength is definitely his shot. The rest of his game is very raw and rouph around the edges but if he can put it all together he'll be scary.

I'm not sure if his skating, deking, passing, is raw. Ofc there's many things to develop but things like skating which can be said as his weakness is also a great threat for the opposing team. The glide of his is amazing when he is already in speed, it looks so easy. I'd say his defensive game maybe raw but he does have other things than just the shot. Like deking, passing, IQ in general, skating which make him dangerous.
 
Who's a good comparable? I've seen Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Nash and Gaborik mentioned in past threads.

From what I have seen a hybrid of a young Sundin(he played wing before Center) and Jagr would be the most accurate.

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He will, at a point in his career, be the best winger in the NHL.

Toronto/Winnipeg should be thanking their lucky stars.
 
I brought it up yesterday but how damm long is small sample size line used against Laine, it's driving me crazy, he had fantastic WJC, yeah but that's a small sample size, he was elite in Liiga on the 2nd half, oh yeah that's a small sample size, and if he has a great tourney it's going to be same all over again, oh yeah that's 1 tourney, a small sample size.
When in fact that would include more games than Matthews played in his NLA season.

Button just yesterday agreed on twitter when talking to someone that the advantage is more in position and not in skill, this draft has 2 1st overall talents, and they are going to teams that need exactly players like them.
Laine is also not your typical winger, he's a dominating force and has the potential to be that in the NHL.
 
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I brought it up yesterday but how damm long is small sample size line used against Laine, it's driving me crazy, he had fantastic WJC, yeah but that's a small sample size, he was elite in Liiga on the 2nd half, oh yeah that's a small sample size, and if he has a great tourney it's going to be same all over again, oh yeah that's 1 tourney, a small sample size.
When in fact that would includes more games than Matthews played in his NLA season.

Button just yesterday agreed on twitter when talking to someone that the advantage is more in position and not in skill, this draft has 2 1st overall talents, and they are going to teams that need exactly players like them.
Laine is also not your typical winger, he's a dominating force and has the potential to be that in the NHL.

It's hard to put a finger on who he plays like. There are games he reminds me a bit of Jagr and then he shoots, I am like that's so Kovulchuck... Yet some games he reminds me of Sundin.


Whatever the case, I am going to be glued to NHL next year
 
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Yeah but what about the fact that Laine doesn't skate, move, have the same explosiveness or hit like Ovechkin at all? His mechanics look a lot more like Blake Wheeler/Rick Nash, and that isn't to suggest upside, but you're not exactly drafting an Ovechkin/Kovalchuk clone here.

Sorry I am not certain I understand your point. Are you saying he has a similar skating mechanics to but not as good as Wheeler and Nash? Or, he has similar skating mechanics to Wheeler and Nash and that is not a good thing?
 
Imagine Laine and Byfuglien manning the points on Winnipeg's PP1. Two guys that can both handle and pass the puck well and can toss huge bombs at the net all day long.

Dare to dream, dare to dream.
 
Imagine Laine and Byfuglien manning the points on Winnipeg's PP1. Two guys that can both handle and pass the puck well and can toss huge bombs at the net all day long.

Dare to dream, dare to dream.

Yeah I can imagine Buf being paid 7.6 until he's 36 alright.

:laugh:
 
Scheif's shot has definitely improved since he's been in the show but his playmaking is what will get the most out of Laine. Finding wingers that can actually finish has been a problem of sorts over the course of the 5 years but that's about to end rather quickly. Laine, Connor and Ehlers transform our team.

Filthy winger potential.
 
I see Laine as a hybrid of Sundin/Jagr. He really does possess alot of these 2 player's qualities.
I've always thought of Laine as Jagr with bit more physicality and a better shot - especially one timer which Jagr didn't really have when he came to the NHL.
Some people compare him to Ovechkin or Kovalchuk and I can understand that, but he doesn't have the skating these two guys have, or the wrecking ball type of game Ovechkin had when he came to the NHL.
 
I've always thought of Laine as Jagr with bit more physicality and a better shot - especially one timer which Jagr didn't really have when he came to the NHL.

Yep. And I am probably only a few that recall Sundin as a winger. The resemblance is uncanny.
 
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