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LW Patrik Laine - Tappara, FEL (2016 Draft)

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The secondary assist was also very deserved. He brought the puck to the zone, lured the defender away from the wing and then made the play happen by giving the no-look backhand pass to Ilomaki.

Not a bad start to the season for Laine. Let's hope he keeps this up*, because there are a lot of doubters to make silent :popcorn:
* EDIT: Okay, let's hope he gets even better at this as the season progresses. This is a 17-year-old guy, after all.
 
What would be a reasonable expectation of points for this year? Granlund and Barkov hovered around a ppg all season, should we see a similar production for Laine?
 
bsmith14 said:
What would be a reasonable expectation of points for this year? Granlund and Barkov hovered around a ppg all season, should we see a similar production for Laine?
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6 games, 3+2=5 in Liiga and 5 games, 2+2=4 in CHL. I think he can keep this up. Barkov had 21+27=48 points in 53 games. I think Laine could make like 28+18=46 points. I wouldn't be surprised if he is the best goal scorer in Liiga this season.
 
Coedae said:
6 games, 3+2=5 in Liiga and 5 games, 2+2=4 in CHL. I think he can keep this up. Barkov had 21+27=48 points in 53 games. I think Laine could make like 28+18=46 points. I wouldn't be surprised if he is the best goal scorer in Liiga this season.
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Yep. Something like this. He doesn't really have good enough linemates to score PPG. 20-30 goals, 15-20 assists.
 
bsmith14 said:
What would be a reasonable expectation of points for this year? Granlund and Barkov hovered around a ppg all season, should we see a similar production for Laine?
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I hope more like 1,2-1,4 points per game because Barkov also had phenomenal defensive game to rise his stocks and Granlund was 9th overall.
 
agent082 said:
I hope more like 1,2-1,4 points per game because Barkov also had phenomenal defensive game to rise his stocks and Granlund was 9th overall.
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And I hope for 2 ppg but this was about reasonable expectations. If he scores over 20 goals this season, it has been a great success.
 
agent082 said:
I hope more like 1,2-1,4 points per game because Barkov also had phenomenal defensive game to rise his stocks and Granlund was 9th overall.
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It was because Barkov had insane chemistry with Ville Nieminen and he was more mature than Laine. Barkov however never stood out against his peers excluding his performance at ivan hlinka when he was double underager. Patrik Laine has always been one of the most dynamic players against his peers. Patrik Laine has more raw talent but is already very dynamic player in liiga.

Barkov was special prospect because of his overall and mature game but he never dominated even at juniors. Patrik Laine has dominated at many events. I think they are about even prospect wise. I value Barkov very highly but i haven't seen scorer like Patrik Laine in long time. That includes every prospect i've seen not just finnish prospects. He has that killer instinct to score. To Puljujärvi vs Laine debate. Laine has passed him and is ahead by decent margin. Isn't even close for me but Puljujärvi has potential to catch and go past Laine if everything goes well and Laine has long slump. But i doubt about it.
 
I am hoping that he will score at a greater pace in the next spring than this fall. He will be a half a year older then after all and at his age 1/2 year is a lot. So i see PPG as reasonable hope at this point.

In April he will be as old as Matthews is now...
 
agent082 said:
I hope more like 1,2-1,4 points per game because Barkov also had phenomenal defensive game to rise his stocks and Granlund was 9th overall.
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It doesn't quite work that way. Granlund was a magician with the puck in the FEL level and he played for a pretty good team. He racked up a lot of assists Laine will never be able to put up.

Barkov was kind of the same except he also had the size.

But neither of these guys were premier goal scorers. It's not easy to score tons of goals in the FEL since the skill level is not that great overall, most teams have some grinders in their top 6. So if you're going to score a lot of goals you have to be really good and make stuff happen alone. Teams also defend pretty well and the Finnish mentality is to play for your team which makes the game pretty tight.

For example, last year's scoring title winner had 29 goals in 60 games which is basically 39 goals if you translate that to NHL length season. There are no elite snipers even by FEL's standards.

I don't care that much about Laine's point totals but if he can score 25-30 goals in said 60 games as a 17 yr old that would be amazing.
 
Coedae said:
6 games, 3+2=5 in Liiga and 5 games, 2+2=4 in CHL. I think he can keep this up. Barkov had 21+27=48 points in 53 games. I think Laine could make like 28+18=46 points. I wouldn't be surprised if he is the best goal scorer in Liiga this season.
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Laine also missed one assist from that 0-7 Chl Zug game. he has 2+3 points there in reality. It was obviously seen on the video, but stat guys ****ed it up.
 
Barkov and Laine... cant really compare those two guys really. Barkov did his thing, Laine is doing his thing.. both are succeeding extremely well. Both are very rare breed, we havent had players like this basically ever. So its probably just better to enjoy it.
 
YARR123 said:
lol no.
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I think that is what it takes in today's sm-liiga to have a chance to be 1st overall if your best attribute is offensive game. Pretty sure even Barkov should have scored close to that pace to surpass Mackinnon and Barkov was much better defensively.
 
Not the most beautiful goal for Laine, but it counts. Really, really hope that he can keep this pace up for the rest of the season, or even improve it. Would love to see a 1st overall pick from my second home country! :) And I don't think it's that far-fetched. Matthews is still playing in an easier league, and on top that, playing on a top team of that easier league.

... and for some reason this poster, Ihmeilja, got very silent immediately after Laine scored once again :D
 
I thought the goal was great. It was a marking mistake from the D, you can see the right side dude just hanging around doing nothing while Laine scores. What I like about it is that they left Laine alone for 5 seconds and he's immediately in a scoring position one-timing the puck. His other linemate drew the left defender and created a good screen. As the season goes on this line will only start to play against the better defenders as these types of simple mistakes result in quick goals.
 
Henkka said:
It's three games already. Laine involved in every goal scored.

Tells more about Tappara's problem, tough.

Laine is the best player, that was expected from the start and he is meeting my expectations after pre-season.
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Tappara has actually very good centers, wich will help Laine troughout the season. They dont have the clear 1A type of center, but there is four good guys that are 1B or 2A quality and they could be all raisers compared to the last season. Dixon, Lajunen, Järvinen and Ilomäki are all very good guys for Laine to play with. The current guy, Ilomäki has offencive potential.
But as you referred, Tappara lacks depth in wings. They have two clear top six wingers in Savinainen and Kuusela, but after that, nothing in the scoring department except Laine. There is no competition for him on the depth scoring and This will surely help Laine aswell. He will get more ice time and better changes to show his scoring ability. Palola and Jormakka left holes in the offence, that are for Laine to fill.

Would it work, if put Laine - Lajunen - Ilomäki on the same line... Lajunen taking more responsibilty in center and Laine and Ilomäki more offencive on the wings...
 
There is a big article in the days local newspaper about Laine and the article has some quotes from hockeysfuture.
There is the usual stuff about him being exceptional talent in Finland, little about the 2016 NHL draft and about the U20 WJC. Article rises the WJC as the most important thing in this season for Laine.

I'd say he is a lock for the U20 squad, if he continues to play like this...
 

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