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LW Matthew Boldy - Boston College, NCAA (2019, 12th, MIN)

Brickstrom said:
No, 1 point in 11 games in a D+1 season is extremely worrying. He's trending towards not being an NHLer, not saying he isn't but that's where his development is heading.
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You should probably watch the player before you post about them
 
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I'd be more concerned if he didn't have games against NCAA teams last year, in which I believe somebody already said he was point-per-game in those games.

I am starting to wonder if the center experiment should end though. He made the NTDP as a wing, and was drafted in the 1st round as a wing. I don't mind that they tried it, but I really don't want it getting in his way.
 
Brickstrom said:
so what exactly happened to him? 1 point in 11 games is worse than 7th round pick production in NCAA.

Out of the big American players, Hughes, Turcotte, Caufield, and Zegras, I never would have thought Boldy was the weak link.
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Did you even follow these players? If you watched the team play much the prior two years, he was the weakest link pretty clearly of the five. He also had the clear worst stats last year. His stats weren't that much different from Zegras the U17 season, but then Zegras got a bigger role and his stats were more in line with the other three.

And thats not to say he was bad or a weak link. He could become the best player of the five. I doubt it, but it's not a crazy prediction.

There was this idea out there that Boldy was some Mark Stone, Brady Tkachuk, Matt Tkachuk clone. I feel like I partly fed it by giving my opinion in his U17 season that he played similar to the Tkachuk brothers, but once I watched more, I changed my opinion. People still latched onto this idea, and despite it being very clear that the kid become a lot more of a finesse player his U18 season. His hockey IQ and work ethic also wasn't as good as initially suspected in his U17 season.

Brickstrom said:
No, 1 point in 11 games in a D+1 season is extremely worrying. He's trending towards not being an NHLer, not saying he isn't but that's where his development is heading.
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No, you are conflating two things.

1 point in 11 games might normally be trending toward the development of someone not becoming an NHL'er.

That doesn't mean it applies for every player that starts with 1 point in 11 games. It clearly does not apply for a first round pick. Maybe he won't be an NHL'er. I doubt it, but it's not crazy to predict that. However, given his previous production in prior seasons and his potential, you have to give the kid way more games before you can say thats where his development is heading. Even if you were completely not a fan of the kid, you would merely be going on your opinion that he won't make it, not anything that we can see in the results of his hockey career so far or the consensus about his potential.
 
Brickstrom said:
Unless you're a scout, tell me who in their right mind has time to watch every prospect closely?
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Straw-man. Fine to box watch your team's prospects or whatever but if you're going to proclaim a guy is or isn't doing well you should bare minimum be checking him out a little bit. No one said "watch every prospect closely". Just watch the ones you talk about here and there if you feel the need to comment on how they are tracking. It's usually a dead give-away that someone is talking out of their ass when they have opinions on a wide range of prospects
 
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Tryamkin said:
Watching every prospect closely /=/ Making extreme conclusions through point totals and very little knowledge
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Point totals matter, there's a large enough data set to to see which players will be an effective NHL player based on their output in junior leagues.
 
tealhockey said:
Straw-man. Fine to box watch your team's prospects or whatever but if you're going to proclaim a guy is or isn't doing well you should bare minimum be checking him out a little bit. No one said "watch every prospect closely". Just watch the ones you talk about here and there if you feel the need to comment on how they are tracking. It's usually a dead give-away that someone is talking out of their ass when they have opinions on a wide range of prospects
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My entire comment was based on curiosity of this player, 1 point in 11 games in NCAA + first season after draft is piss poor production for a first rounder.

You can make all the subjective statements you want but you can't debate he is heavily under performing that league
 
Brickstrom said:
My entire comment was based on curiosity of this player, 1 point in 11 games in NCAA + first season after draft is piss poor production for a first rounder.

You can make all the subjective statements you want but you can't debate he is heavily under performing that league
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I don’t think anyone is disagreeing that he’s underperforming right now. What’s your point?
 
Might be too early to deem Boldy a bust.

Centre for Newhook and both struggled. They were separated onto different lines each playing Centres: 2nd - Boldy & 3rd - Newhook with varying levels of success. Boldy added another assist and Newhook exploded in scoring.

New Lines Sparking Boston College Offense

It could also be the coaching. Boldy normally played LW and BC used as a 2C. Newhook improved after returning as a 3C.

Still very young and their performances will change weekly and should revisit after playing more games.
 
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collegehockeynews has shot attempt generation stats per players and Boldy is leading his team. From what I've been able to correlate, when a true freshman is one of the leaders on their team in that stat, they generally end up on track for the NHL and do pretty well too. Couple guys off the top of my head would be Larkin, Connor, and Tkachuk.
 
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hohosaregood said:
collegehockeynews has shot attempt generation stats per players and Boldy is leading his team. From what I've been able to correlate, when a true freshman is one of the leaders on their team in that stat, they generally end up on track for the NHL and do pretty well too. Couple guys off the top of my head would be Larkin, Connor, and Tkachuk.
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Those guys scored too though.
 
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William H Bonney said:
This is one of the most ridiculous takes I've seen on this site in recent times. Standing out in a sea of bad takes isn't easy. Well done.
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Its actually embarassing for the poster. Deciding a player will never play in the NHL 11 games into his D + 1 season.
 
So what’s going on with this kid? Asking because I don’t watch NCAA hockey.

Is he snake bitten out there or actually playing bad? His first year is honestly not shaping up thet well from the looks of it
 
He'll be fine. Boldy is off to a slow start in terms of offensive production, but he is a really talented young prospect.
 
Have watched 6 BC games this year and he's just snake bitten. He's playing really well, creating offense and getting a lot of minutes. He has 41 shots so far in 14 games, they'll start to fall soon. He doesn't have a true goal scorer on his line either to help bump up his assist numbers and he's not playing a ton on the PP. When he's on the PP, it's the 2nd unit but it's not consistent he's out there from what I've seen. Once Newhook was bumped to a new line, he's been on fire with 11 pts in 8 games. Hopefully Boldy makes the WJC and he gets going there. There's been a lot of players of the years who start slow, get a jump in the WJC and finish up the 2nd half really well.
 
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sigx15 said:
Have watched 6 BC games this year and he's just snake bitten. He's playing really well, creating offense and getting a lot of minutes. He has 41 shots so far in 14 games, they'll start to fall soon. He doesn't have a true goal scorer on his line either to help bump up his assist numbers and he's not playing a ton on the PP. When he's on the PP, it's the 2nd unit but it's not consistent he's out there from what I've seen. Once Newhook was bumped to a new line, he's been on fire with 11 pts in 8 games. Hopefully Boldy makes the WJC and he gets going there. There's been a lot of players of the years who start slow, get a jump in the WJC and finish up the 2nd half really well.
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Maybe he should play Wing? Playing 2C, I’m not sure if this involves his line mates. Newhook was on his wing and they both struggled. Moved to 3C, not only has he flourished the offensive surge led to a Team Canada invite.

Boldy is too talented and might be misused in his role resulting in the low output.
 
Patagonia said:
Maybe he should play Wing? Playing 2C, I’m not sure if this involves his line mates. Newhook was on his wing and they both struggled. Moved to 3C, not only has he flourished the offensive surge led to a Team Canada invite.

Boldy is too talented and might be misused in his role resulting in the low output.
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His linemates are the least offensively-inclined in the top three lines. If you check out their stats (below) you can see it's like a black hole. I'm sure some of that is on Matt but I guarantee if he was with Hutsko or Rasanen, even hardman, he puts up some more points. At the same time he is #2 center (it's not a bad line just not a great one offensively) at 18 y/o for one of the top teams in the country at the moment. How good they would be without Spencer Knight, not sure, but it's something

 
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