LW Luke Toporowski (2019 undrafted; signed by BOS; traded to MIN)

SmartPuck

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I've seen this kid play a few times...along with plenty of the other young hockey talent out there.

There's a reason 7 other kids were taken ahead of him in the 2016 WHL Bantam Draft. He's good, but there are far better young players out there. The top two picks in that draft, especially, are head and shoulders better than he is.

The hype is coming from a guy who doesn't watch many bantam-aged players via a writer who doesn't watch prospects, let alone 15 year olds.
 

MS

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Does anyone have an update for him? Looks like he's slightly above PPG in his league but I'm not sure how impressive that is given I've never heard of his team.
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=315967

The fact that a teammate the same age as him (Alex Turcotte) is scoring at nearly double the rate as Toporowski in the same low-level league probably indicates that the early hype on Toporowski was misplaced.
 

nobiggie

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The fact that a teammate the same age as him (Alex Turcotte) is scoring at nearly double the rate as Toporowski in the same low-level league probably indicates that the early hype on Toporowski was misplaced.

HPHL is not low level at all.
 

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The fact that a teammate the same age as him (Alex Turcotte) is scoring at nearly double the rate as Toporowski in the same low-level league probably indicates that the early hype on Toporowski was misplaced.

HPHL is proabably the best league in America it is not low level. Turcotte is just a freak he has one of the best ppg's ever in that league and leads the league in ppg which includes kids that have been drafted in the first round of the USHL and have played NTDP games. Toporowski is also very skilled and still one of the best 01's in America. Keep in mind in the "low level" league only 6 players average a ppg or more. There are only 4 players that have a better ppg then him of those players you have turcotte, De St. Phalle(00) who has played games for the NTDP more games for his USHL team Sioux City and is committed to the University of Wisconson, Tyler Carpenter(00) Who has been drafted into the USHL and played several games for Omaha and committed to the University of Notre Dame, and Ryan Savage(00) who was drafted in the first round of the USHL draft played USHL games and is committed to the Univeristy of Miami Ohio. Savage just barely has a better ppg then Toporowski and Toporowski is playing second line because of De St. Phalle, Turcotte, and Carpenter. He is still very good.
 

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HPHL is proabably the best league in America it is not low level. Turcotte is just a freak he has one of the best ppg's ever in that league and leads the league in ppg which includes kids that have been drafted in the first round of the USHL and have played NTDP games. Toporowski is also very skilled and still one of the best 01's in America. Keep in mind in the "low level" league only 6 players average a ppg or more. There are only 4 players that have a better ppg then him of those players you have turcotte, De St. Phalle(00) who has played games for the NTDP more games for his USHL team Sioux City and is committed to the University of Wisconson, Tyler Carpenter(00) Who has been drafted into the USHL and played several games for Omaha and committed to the University of Notre Dame, and Ryan Savage(00) who was drafted in the first round of the USHL draft played USHL games and is committed to the Univeristy of Miami Ohio. Savage just barely has a better ppg then Toporowski and Toporowski is playing second line because of De St. Phalle, Turcotte, and Carpenter. He is still very good.

All of this. The fact that people are referring to the HPHL (let alone the rest of the competition these kids play against throughout the season that isn't league-based) as low level is kind of baffling.

Toporowski may be the most complete player in his age group. There is no over-hype. He's an outstanding talent and many scouts hold him in a higher regard than Turcotte long-term, and that's taking nothing away from Turcotte at all.
 

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All of this. The fact that people are referring to the HPHL (let alone the rest of the competition these kids play against throughout the season that isn't league-based) as low level is kind of baffling.

Toporowski may be the most complete player in his age group. There is no over-hype. He's an outstanding talent and many scouts hold him in a higher regard than Turcotte long-term, and that's taking nothing away from Turcotte at all.

spot on as always BL!

I am chuckling at those suggesting he is over-hyped based off "stats" for this league. for all the reasons you stated above, the simple fact is Turcotte is on a loaded line most nights. he is a great player but has benefited from top line minutes, while Topper has played 2nd line due to his ability to play both sides of the puck. kid does need to keep his butt out of the box as for a player of his skill level, he takes a ton of penalties...reminds me of Matt Tkachuk with how he plays the game physically at a young age.

Both are elite talents and I am excited as heck for the Mission program, but anyone calling Topper anything but a potential star needs to stop looking at just stats which by the way are pretty damn good regardless.
 

mazmin

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He is Kerry's son.

The older Toporowski kid was really good as a bantam too. Not quite this level, but near the top of his age group. He seems to have really leveled off since going to Spokane though since he didn't even get drafted.

Max Domi, Max Jones and now Topo. Somehow the goons are breeding kids with hands. Must be Alien intervention ... :sarcasm:
 

SimonRM

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You can play for any team in the CHL I'm pretty sure, the same applies in the opposite direction. If the kid identifies as Canadian, has Canadian citizenship and qualifies he should be free to play for Canada if he wants. By the logic of the original poster, William Nylander shouldn't be able to play for any country, which is ridiculous.

Plus your country is poaching way more talent than ours. Just look at Bode Wilde going USNDP route, or previously Fowler.

Thank you for your comments, honnestly you speak out my mind and explained well the whole situation with USA Hockey vs recruitment battle with dual citizenship players...

Honnestly, it it time to tell how USA Hockey try to -poach (that's a great word to explain it) - some of the best ''sons of former Canadian NHLers'' / or dealing with dual citizenship top prospects.

First, yes it is an advantage to be the son of a former NHL, as you can get some hints on the game and develop the professional approach of the sport, but also with a deep pocket parent who is willing to put the money in, that's helpful! And since most of NHL teams are based in the US, -naturally- more sons of NHLers will be born in the US and be raised there. It's simple logic, come-on people.

As well said by Ken Campbell of The Hockey News: ‘’every time a Canadian goes to a US city and marries an American there, it increases the odds that USA Hockey will have another young star on it’s hands’’

In the past, it would have been the likes of Brett Hull, Zach Parise, Nick Foligno, Connor Murphy, Jarred Tinordi, Colin Wilson, Stefan Matteau. - Nowadays USA Hockey have :

2014 Draft : Ryan MacInnis, Dominic Turgeon, John Wesley, Ryan Mantha, Chase Perry, Tyler Nanne

2015 Draft: Chase Pearson, Joel Daccord, Adam Marsh

2016 Draft: Logan Brown, Kieffer Bellows (who scored two goals in the WJC final against Canada, congrats..clap clap), Tage Thompson, Chad Krys, Graham McPhee

2017: Josh Norris, Evan Barratt, Drake Rymsha, Skyler Brind'Amour, Cayden Primeau

And now for 2018: Jack DeBoer, Riley Hughes, Michael Kesselring, Philippe Lapointe Will MacKinnon, Tyler Madden, Ryan Savage...

2019: Alex Turcotte, Luke Toporowski, Jack Hugues*

It is always fun to see how Canada in someway is helping USA Hockey develop his talent pool of prospects and how USA Hockey is trying to retain them troughout their ''National team programs''. They are not yet 16 they can play for the Country on international competitions and begin their ''In God We Trust American Patriostim'', so yes afterall they want to play for USA at the U18 and U20 levels. It is now a recruitment battle and the Americans well understood that (maybe way before Canada did).

The Bode Wilde/Jack Hughes/Quinn Hugues situations are also fun to examinate since some already said:

''This kid is born and raised in the U.S.. Yes, he should play for the U.S. (which doesn't appear to be in question to him). Also, not clear on the eligibility issues, but would a kid like this need to just play in the CHL for two years or a Canadian based CHL team for two years to be eligible to play for Canada?''


Jack Hugues and is brother Quinn were playing in Canada because of their father was hired with the Toronto Maple Leafs. They both played with the Toronto Malboros in Minor Midget but it was never in question that they would represent USA on international level. Canada developed them in some way, but they went for the US but since their father is American, I am totally find with that.

And for Bode Wilde, he was born in Montreal, stayed in Canada until I think he was 12/13 and already said in a THN interview : ''I always rooted for Canada in the past'' - he skipped the Young Olympic Games because he wasn't able to choose yet. But since he moved to the US, and had many''opportunities'' given - ahum... the NTDP - it simplified his choice and settled for it. Canada doesn't have a national program so yes it is a huge advantage for the USA hockey program.

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USA Hockey may one day (sooner than later) usurp Canada as the powerhouse nation in hockey, but it will never be because they like the sport the way Canadians do *I can give you numvbers if you want*. It will simply because of their mass population and natural growth of the sport in a huge market with tons of money pours in to develop fans (and it was about time to be honest with you geeeeeezzzzz).

As Brian Burke already said: ‘’It simple arithmetic. More people live in California (per instance) than Canada. I know people up here are alarmed, but it’s a compliment. We have been chasing Canada since I got into this game. ‘’

 
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TheWhiskeyThief

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The world is full of stupid people.

If he scored at the rate he is while playing like his dad, maybe he’s a 4th rounder.

Plenty of players bigger than him scoring at better rates never even make it out of the ECHL.
 

Artorius Horus T

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Not sure is it valid yet to post "what ever happened to" , due to the fact that he is still only 18 years old and wont be 19 in another 6 months,
but so far his WHL career has not lived some fans expectations. In 137 games, 34 goals, 43 assists, +19

Went undrafted, not sure will anyone pick him next year either.
 

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Not sure is it valid yet to post "what ever happened to" , due to the fact that he is still only 18 years old and wont be 19 in another 6 months,
but so far his WHL career has not lived some fans expectations. In 137 games, 34 goals, 43 assists, +19

Went undrafted, not sure will anyone pick him next year either.
He was an early developer and didn't continue to take off. Happens all the time. Still could make it happen as a pro but this is why you don't freak out over 15 y/os doing well in midget
 

NJ Fan 12

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Point per game player last season but once again went undrafted and did not receive an invitation to the USA Hockey Development Camp.

Were his numbers more the result of playing with players like Beckman and some of the older players with the Chiefs?

Any chance he is in an NHL camp on a tryout basis?
 

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