LW Juraj Slafkovsky - TPS Turku, Liiga (2022, 1st, MTL) Part 2

[Eye of Ra]

Hm.. Few months ago you said you were wrong, now you were ironic. Interesting. What point were you making with this "ironic" statement then? You have repeated it a few times as well by the way, much irony. The only ironic thing here are your pathetic attempts to talk shit all the time yet try to make others look bad. And spread your squabbles through 5 threads at the same time.

I don't know and I don't care, I thought you spend enough time on these boards to notice NHL draft isn't the thing I'm particularly interested in.

You dont understand sarcasm. Your problem, not mine.

You where obsessed with Iguchi.

Im far from the only one who called you a slovak hater.

 

[Dirtyf1ghter]

I remember that 2 years ago, we were some to fight against the majority to affirm that Slovak hockey was going to become 7th again - that hockey was not dead in Slovakia.

We struggled against skepticism about Nemec and Slafkovsky. Personally, I saw Nemec as a definite 1st round, Slafkovsky a definite 2nd round, maybe first round.

Something that may seem shabby but for Slovak hockey since 2005 it was never happening.

Last year I really understood that Nemec would be top 10 and Slafkovsky 1st round. At the start of the current season, I saw Nemec at the top, Slafkovsky mid 1st round.

Now I have Slafkovsky 2 and Nemec 4. And there are Mesar and Sykora expected at the end of the 1st round/beginning of the 2nd round.

It will be the best draft class in the history of Slovak hockey and it is very likely that a Slovak will be selected 2nd, which would be a record.

Yes there were more Slovaks drafted during the 2000s but ultimately it was often failures. There have never been more than 3 Slovaks with a real NHL career. This class will probably give 4.

Slafkovsky is one of the most improved players. He is no longer the same player as last year. He already has this ability to combine physical commitment and offensive efficiency. Last year, I found it difficult to play with others, to be effective in the U20 world championship. There he seems to be a top player in Senior.

He and Nemec are already the 2 best players in the team. I don't forget a few game mistakes, the low adversity but that's 2 tournaments in 3 months for Slafkovsky.

They have experienced very rapid growth phases in recent months. Like a growing teenager. I can't see them slowing down when they're speeding up.

Players who will certainly be of the same caliber as Gaborik & Hossa & Chara.

With support behind. Only on the 2004 to 2008 generations, we should have 12 (maybe more) Slovaks to have a career of 300 games and + in NHL. 2006 will be a generation but there are guys born in 2007/2008 (Svrcek, Chovan, Tomik, Matta) who have extraordinary stats.

In short, many of us predicted the resurrection of Slovak hockey, but I don't think anyone would have thought it would be in these proportions.

A year ago it was difficult to say that Slovakia had the level of Switzerland and Germany. Things have changed a lot in such a short time.

If this is confirmed over an entire generation of players... we will really have to talk about 7 big nations full NHLer. Slovakia was close during the 2000s to being but it lacked depth, centers and above all it did not last long.

 

[Xirik]

Idk. I thought Laine clearly had a better overall shot at that age.

Thats all Laine had and still has to be honest.

 

[LeProspector]

Or maybe they are very good? It's kinda dumb to just presume they are bad 'cos it's team Switzerland.

Historically it's a weak group, it'd be dumb to pretend it's not.

In one group you have Sweden, Finland, USA and the Czechs

The other you have Canada, Germany, Swiss and Slovakia.

 

[alko]

@Namejs what do the advanced statistics say, though?

 

[vladis271]

My man... Switzerland finished first in the group. I think that explains how weak the group is.

Or maybe, just maybe You could find something out about this Switzerland team. Before the world cup even started they were considered one of the favorites for the Gold.

 

[Just Linda]

This is a pretty clever player comparison analysis:

• Slafkovsky vs. Laine
• Slafkovsky vs. Puljujärvi
• Slafkovsky vs. Rantanen

I see the Puljujarvi comparison more than anything. I definitely see a Puljujarvi with better balance in him, I agree that they are the best comparison style wise.

 

[LeProspector]

Or maybe, just maybe You could find something out about this Switzerland team. Before the world cup even started they were considered one of the favorites for the Gold.

Your favourites for gold and #1 seed from the weak group A is going to lose to the #4 seed from group B. It was a weak group

 

[le_sean]

Your favourites for gold and #1 seed from the weak group A is going to lose to the #4 seed from group B. It was a weak group

Slaf with 8 points against Italy, France, Kazakhstan and Denmark

1 point against Canada, Finland and Germany.

 

[tmlmatus]

Slaf with 8 points against Italy, France, Kazakhstan and Denmark

1 point against Canada, Finland and Germany.

Wright, 94 points against junior players as young as 16 years old.

Edit: I don't like to discredit point production; just pointing out how stupid that comment was.

 

[le_sean]

Wright, 94 points against junior players as young as 16 years old.

This is a Slafkovsky thread. Not sure what Wright has to do with anything.

 

[tmlmatus]

This is a Slafkovsky thread. Not sure what Wright has to do with anything.

I wouldn't want to shit up the wright thread with smooth brain comments.

 

[stastny12]

Wright, 94 points against junior players as young as 16 years old.

Edit: I don't like to discredit point production; just pointing out how stupid that comment was.

And zero points against Italy, France, Kazakhstan and Denmark.

 

[LeProspector]

Whoever said that Slafkovsky reminds them of Puljujarvi, I agree.

 

[le_sean]

I wouldn't want to shit up the wright thread with smooth brain comments.

What’s smooth brained about what I posted? Did he not score 8 points against those countries and 1 point against the three I listed? Man you’re really defensive.

 

[tmlmatus]

What’s smooth brained about what I posted? Did he not score 8 points against those countries and 1 point against the three I listed? Man you’re really defensive.

you're discrediting point production based on the competition he faces.

If that's the case then why even discuss point production at all when talking about any any player that plays in a development league.

 

[GalHabsGal]

Wright, 94 points against junior players as young as 16 years old.

Edit: I don't like to discredit point production; just pointing out how stupid that comment was.

Or Slaf, with :

TPS U20 20/21

U20 SM-sarja

16

8

5

13

TPS U20 21/22

U20 SM-sarja

11

6

12

18

TPS

Liiga

31

5

5

10

Slaf could become a great 1 line winger, or a 3 line player ... we dont know the future

 

[le_sean]

you're discrediting point production based on the competition he faces.

If that's the case then why even discuss point production at all when talking about any any player that plays in a development league.

I can discredit his poor Liiga totals too if you want, but I feel we’d need to put you in a straight jacket to settle down.

 

[tmlmatus]

Or Slaf, with :

TPS U20 20/21

U20 SM-sarja

16

8

5

13

TPS U20 21/22

U20 SM-sarja

11

6

12

18

TPS

Liiga

31

5

5

10

Slaf could become a great 1 line winger, or a 3 line player ... we dont know the future

This is true.

 

[GalHabsGal]

This is true.

Lets just hope that Salf and Wright become 2 great players !!!

 

[vlady]

What’s smooth brained about what I posted? Did he not score 8 points against those countries and 1 point against the three I listed? Man you’re really defensive.

actually no, he didn't.

You wrote:

1 point against Canada, Finland and Germany.

He scored 0 points against these 3 teams. He scored that 1 point against Switzerland.

So no, your post was not even factually correct.

But here's the counterpoint to your post:

He scored 6 goals in 5 games against Sweden, USA and Finland at the Olympics.

 

[tmlmatus]

I can discredit his poor Liiga totals too if you want, but I feel we’d need to put you in a straight jacket to settle down.

sure, then bring up his Liiga totals. That would make more sense.

 

[le_sean]

actually no, he didn't.

You wrote:


He scored 0 points against these 3 teams. He scored that 1 point against Switzerland.

So no, your post was not even factually correct.

But here's the counterpoint to your post:

He scored 6 goals in 5 games against Sweden, USA and Finland at the Olympics.

So thanks for clearing up my point even more.

And yes, he did score some goals in the ECHL Olympics. He had a good tournament.

 

[Eggtimer]

I get the Puljujarvi comparisons but to me , Slafkovsky looks like a better skater and better stick handling ability.Kesse doesn’t look as fluid or natural when skating or stickhandling . It’s like he is labouring to do so where Slaf looks more natural and smooth and under control . Jesse looks like he is just barely managing to maintain control at all times…

 

[devilsfan35]

Puljujarvi had really good hockey sense up until he came to North America. Not sure what happened there. I had high hopes for him