LW Dmitry Buchelnikov - Vityaz, KHL (2022, 52nd, DET)

Kshahdoo

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So at what point do we start thinking he’s a legit prospect with a shot at being a top line player? Or is that not within his reach?

I’m just stat watching so asking those who have seen the kid play.

He looks very much like young Panarin. I said this 2 years ago, and it's still the thing. Of course it doesn't mean he'll become as good as Panarin, but he looks promising.
 

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How is his production for a guy his age over there?
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Quick filters on EP for the best U22 seasons by PPG. Right now, if you remove the single game outliers, he seems to be on pace for the 2nd best PPG season of all time? Dunno if I am missing something here but that seems pretty good!
 

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Here is how Buchelnikov's PNHLe (age-adjusted, league, position and production fantasy stat) ranks against other players from the KHL.

Of note, the KHL is easily the most difficult league to build a model from using historic values.
Like any model, PNHLe is far from perfect, but it gives a pretty decent trend of a player's offensive upside.

You can find all player's PNHLe (charts), NHL team prospect pipeline, and many other features inside the NHL Rank King app.

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26 points in 27 KHL games this season. Good for being a point behind Gusev for the league lead in points. He’s well on his way to setting the KHL record for his age.

Detroit suddenly has a lot of skill closing in on the NHL, to go along with all those young dmen and goaltenders in the system. Buchelnikov, Kisskinen, MBN, Emmitt Finnie (now among WHL scoring leaders at 19) and then obviously Danielson, Mazur and Lombardi already in Grand Rapids. Even Cross Hanas looks back on track. Kasper in the NHL at 20, getting better and better every night, along with Lucas Raymond, who’s already a PPG player in the league.

Buchelnikov might end up being the most talented of them all though, when it’s all said and done. Good bet at his current development, he’s gonna void his final year in the KHL, and head over after the season. Likely straight into the NHL.

So all those Yzerman haters right now, might wanna take a good look at how they’ve loaded a prospect pool in just 6 years with no lottery picks. The NHL isn’t the NBA or NFL. Not only do you have to draft 17-18 year old kids, you have to develop them properly. That takes years. Just look at the top teams today, and how long it’s taken them. Well over a decade for most of them. That organization was completely empty when Yzerman took over. Now they’re as loaded as anyone with NHL talent.
 

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26 points in 27 KHL games this season. Good for being a point behind Gusev for the league lead in points. He’s well on his way to setting the KHL record for his age.

Detroit suddenly has a lot of skill closing in on the NHL, to go along with all those young dmen and goaltenders in the system. Buchelnikov, Kisskinen, MBN, Emmitt Finnie (now among WHL scoring leaders at 19) and then obviously Danielson, Mazur and Lombardi already in Grand Rapids. Even Cross Hanas looks back on track. Kasper in the NHL at 20, getting better and better every night, along with Lucas Raymond, who’s already a PPG player in the league.

Buchelnikov might end up being the most talented of them all though, when it’s all said and done. Good bet at his current development, he’s gonna void his final year in the KHL, and head over after the season. Likely straight into the NHL.

So all those Yzerman haters right now, might wanna take a good look at how they’ve loaded a prospect pool in just 6 years with no lottery picks. The NHL isn’t the NBA or NFL. Not only do you have to draft 17-18 year old kids, you have to develop them properly. That takes years. Just look at the top teams today, and how long it’s taken them. Well over a decade for most of them. That organization was completely empty when Yzerman took over. Now they’re as loaded as anyone with NHL talent.
Buchelnikov is exciting but I'm not holding my breath on him coming over to NA anytime soon.
 

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26 points in 27 KHL games this season. Good for being a point behind Gusev for the league lead in points. He’s well on his way to setting the KHL record for his age.

Detroit suddenly has a lot of skill closing in on the NHL, to go along with all those young dmen and goaltenders in the system. Buchelnikov, Kisskinen, MBN, Emmitt Finnie (now among WHL scoring leaders at 19) and then obviously Danielson, Mazur and Lombardi already in Grand Rapids. Even Cross Hanas looks back on track. Kasper in the NHL at 20, getting better and better every night, along with Lucas Raymond, who’s already a PPG player in the league.

Buchelnikov might end up being the most talented of them all though, when it’s all said and done. Good bet at his current development, he’s gonna void his final year in the KHL, and head over after the season. Likely straight into the NHL.

So all those Yzerman haters right now, might wanna take a good look at how they’ve loaded a prospect pool in just 6 years with no lottery picks. The NHL isn’t the NBA or NFL. Not only do you have to draft 17-18 year old kids, you have to develop them properly. That takes years. Just look at the top teams today, and how long it’s taken them. Well over a decade for most of them. That organization was completely empty when Yzerman took over. Now they’re as loaded as anyone with NHL talent.

Y is doing things the right way. Drafting and cultivating talent, and not making bad trades/long term FA signings to try and fast forward the rebuild. I'm fine with another losing season or two to see how this plays out a few years down the road.
 

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Buchelnikov is exciting but I'm not holding my breath on him coming over to NA anytime soon.
I could see him finishing out in the KHL, but the fact that he was in Detroit already this summer is super positive and leans more towards him seriously pursuing an NHL career sooner rather than later. I don't see him coming over to sit in GR, but if Yzerman is willing to give him an NHL spot, I wouldn't be surprised to see him make the jump next year.

Now as for where he'll end up long term, I'm still a bit concerned with how small he is and thus how his game translates to the NHL. The guy has a ton of skill but from the photos I saw over the summer would be lucky to be the 5'10 he's listed at.
 

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I could see him finishing out in the KHL, but the fact that he was in Detroit already this summer is super positive and leans more towards him seriously pursuing an NHL career sooner rather than later. I don't see him coming over to sit in GR, but if Yzerman is willing to give him an NHL spot, I wouldn't be surprised to see him make the jump next year.

Now as for where he'll end up long term, I'm still a bit concerned with how small he is and thus how his game translates to the NHL. The guy has a ton of skill but from the photos I saw over the summer would be lucky to be the 5'10 he's listed at.

He has great IQ and shot, his skating doesn't suck either so his size doesn't matter. I mean Kane played like 5'6 kid and still earned the place in HoF...
 

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