LW Cole Eiserman - Boston Univ., NCAA (2024, 20th, NYI)

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Another 2 goals tonight. Can’t wait for him to come up cause the Isles desperately need him, either next year or after that
 

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as a rangers fan, annoying to see this kid lighting it up. Isles got a good one. they need a triggerman with this kind of juice in the worst way.
 

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as a rangers fan, annoying to see this kid lighting it up. Isles got a good one. they need a triggerman with this kind of juice in the worst way.

I by no means am a draft expert and I am sure somebody will point to me where I might be wrong in a few cases but once Minnesota picked that high end defenseman 12th, I don't see how 8 teams passed on Eiserman
 
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I by no means am a draft expert and I am sure somebody will point to me where I might be wrong in a few cases but once Minnesota picked that high end defenseman 12th, I don't see how 8 teams passed on Eiserman
This is one of those things. I can understand about 5 of the players drafted ahead of him. But there are a few there that are baffling imo unless one takes the Farkas view that Eiserman is the next Dave Chyzowski - stupid as a box of rocks but with a shot. I saw Dave Chyzowski play. He was stupid, lazy, and crazy. Eiserman definitely grinds, and goes where the goals are.
 
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7 points so far in 6 games on limited icetime and second unit PP.

While i get the 13th forward thing I don't understand why he isn't on the first unit PP. The bulk of his points were on the 2nd unit PP, imagine if he got more icetime doing what he is really good at.
 
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7 points so far in 6 games on limited icetime and second unit PP.

While i get the 13th forward thing I don't understand why he isn't on the first unit PP. The bulk of his points were on the 2nd unit PP, imagine if he got more icetime doing what he is really good at.

I'm curious if Carle is sticking to using Burnevik on PP1 because of the jobs he wants that player to perform - namely retrievals and going to jam around the crease while the rest of the latent does their thing. Who takes that job on, with Leonard and Perreault already as the low flank options. And it's not like the 2nd US unit hasn't had quality opportunities. Carle doesn't usually run just his top group out for a full man advantage.

That said, I'm pleased to see the kid stuffing some crow down the faces of doubters, myself included. I wonder if he's going to have a sort of Phil Kessel career arc from being pre-draft sullied to just a well-known character in the NHL.
 

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His goal last night was ridiculous... zero space, from his knee and a tonne of spit on it. Everytime I see him he scores gorgeous goals and lots of them. He seems to piss off coaches though Reminds me of Jakub Vrana.lol
 

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I'm curious if Carle is sticking to using Burnevik on PP1 because of the jobs he wants that player to perform - namely retrievals and going to jam around the crease while the rest of the latent does their thing. Who takes that job on, with Leonard and Perreault already as the low flank options. And it's not like the 2nd US unit hasn't had quality opportunities. Carle doesn't usually run just his top group out for a full man advantage.
The PP coach is Burnevik’s college coach.
 

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I'm curious if Carle is sticking to using Burnevik on PP1 because of the jobs he wants that player to perform - namely retrievals and going to jam around the crease while the rest of the latent does their thing. Who takes that job on, with Leonard and Perreault already as the low flank options. And it's not like the 2nd US unit hasn't had quality opportunities. Carle doesn't usually run just his top group out for a full man advantage.

Only thing I can think of is (I believe) Hagans plays the exact same position on PP1(right side face off circle)
 

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Eiserman is one of the best bad players you’ll ever see. I’ll maintain he’s not that good at hockey, but the dude can absolutely score goals with the best of them.

I think he’ll probably have one of those NHL careers where he’ll be useless most of the time and you’ll be criticizing him for it and then he’ll score a big goal and you’ll be like “Of course he did that” in an ironic manner.

Does elite level goal scoring and mostly mediocre everything else add up to a good player? Hard to really know. It’s a true conundrum and I think that’s what he is.

I think he has a lot of similarities to Wahlstrom, which Isles fans might not like, but the one way he differs from Wahlstrom significantly is I feel he’s a lot more intense and cares a lot and wants to be great. I think he’s maybe a little too limited to be great, but don’t doubt for a second that he has a mentality that few do and Wahlstrom certainly didn’t and why he’ll probably at least be a more impactful NHL’er.
 

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I think he’ll probably have one of those NHL careers where he’ll be useless most of the time and you’ll be criticizing him for it and then he’ll score a big goal and you’ll be like “Of course he did that” in an ironic manner.

Basically Mike Hoffman. lol

I think he has a lot of similarities to Wahlstrom, which Isles fans might not like, but the one way he differs from Wahlstrom significantly is I feel he’s a lot more intense and cares a lot and wants to be great.

Difference to me is Eiserman seems to always be perfectly positioned to score, Wahlstrom always seemed lost on the ice.
 

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I'm curious if Carle is sticking to using Burnevik on PP1 because of the jobs he wants that player to perform - namely retrievals and going to jam around the crease while the rest of the latent does their thing. Who takes that job on, with Leonard and Perreault already as the low flank options. And it's not like the 2nd US unit hasn't had quality opportunities. Carle doesn't usually run just his top group out for a full man advantage.

That said, I'm pleased to see the kid stuffing some crow down the faces of doubters, myself included. I wonder if he's going to have a sort of Phil Kessel career arc from being pre-draft sullied to just a well-known character in the NHL.
Burneviks college coach runs the PP for team USA. Only explanation
 
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Eiserman is one of the best bad players you’ll ever see. I’ll maintain he’s not that good at hockey, but the dude can absolutely score goals with the best of them.

It's going to take a while to figure out a playstyle that works for him - to simplify things in the neutral & defensive zones. He's a bit lost, but it's obviously not that he doesn't try.
I think he has a lot of similarities to Wahlstrom, which Isles fans might not like, but the one way he differs from Wahlstrom significantly is I feel he’s a lot more intense and cares a lot and wants to be great. I think he’s maybe a little too limited to be great, but don’t doubt for a second that he has a mentality that few do and Wahlstrom certainly didn’t and why he’ll probably at least be a more impactful NHL’er.
Wahlstrom is the class clown everyone likes. Eiserman is ... different. I think he's going to need patience. Again, it's important to remember that if Eiserman were born 17 days later he would've been draft eligible in 2025. imo he will be served best not by not signing this summer.
 

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I saw some fire from Eiserman during this tournament that I loved to see. He was a great teammate and unselfishly embraced the 13th forward role as Carle told The Athletic reporter Scott Wheeler.



I've said it before and I'll keep saying it: Nobody can draft a plug in the third round and teach them to score like Eiserman. Anybody who's ever played the game knows that scoring goals is the toughest thing to do and this kid is a natural at it -- plus he has a great work ethic and will to win.

He will require some patience and need to be developed properly and at the right pace, but IMHO any deficiencies in his game can be fixed.
 
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I think it's become clear that whatever Eiserman's issues are, they aren't because he doesn't care or because he's selfish. (And for the record, I posted on this thread pushing back on that narrative this summer.) To me, that implies that any poor shot selection is due to lack of creativity or hockey IQ. And I'm not convinced this shot selection is that bad.

I think he's an NHL player in the end. He has enough physicality in his game that with good coaching and if reigned in properly could allow him to play bottom 6. Combine that with a PP1 worthy shot and you have a pretty good NHL player.
 

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Eiserman is one of the best bad players you’ll ever see. I’ll maintain he’s not that good at hockey, but the dude can absolutely score goals with the best of them.

I think he’ll probably have one of those NHL careers where he’ll be useless most of the time and you’ll be criticizing him for it and then he’ll score a big goal and you’ll be like “Of course he did that” in an ironic manner.

Does elite level goal scoring and mostly mediocre everything else add up to a good player? Hard to really know. It’s a true conundrum and I think that’s what he is.

I think he has a lot of similarities to Wahlstrom, which Isles fans might not like, but the one way he differs from Wahlstrom significantly is I feel he’s a lot more intense and cares a lot and wants to be great. I think he’s maybe a little too limited to be great, but don’t doubt for a second that he has a mentality that few do and Wahlstrom certainly didn’t and why he’ll probably at least be a more impactful NHL’er.

If he is willing to work at his total game, there is no reason he can't be a 6:01, Frank Vatrano. Means he has the capability of multiple 35-40 goal seasons.Granted, not as fast, but he isn't a slow or a plodding skater at all.
 

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