LW Alex Formenton (2017, 47th, OTT)
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About time this kids thread gets another bump.
Hes quite possibly the fastest player not in the NHL at the moment. He was the youngest player in his draft, and literally as raw as they come, but hes exploded on the scene in the AHL as a first year pro.
57gp 26g 26a 52pts -good for 6th in league scoring. Amazing for a guy would just turned 20yrs old in September.
And above all else his game is tailor made for the pros. Aside from his incredible speed, hes very chippy and aggressive by nature.
Edmonton should be dreaming for a complimentary player like him someday that could keep up with McDavid on the rush.
Hes quite possibly the fastest player not in the NHL at the moment. He was the youngest player in his draft, and literally as raw as they come, but hes exploded on the scene in the AHL as a first year pro.
57gp 26g 26a 52pts -good for 6th in league scoring. Amazing for a guy would just turned 20yrs old in September.
And above all else his game is tailor made for the pros. Aside from his incredible speed, hes very chippy and aggressive by nature.
Edmonton should be dreaming for a complimentary player like him someday that could keep up with McDavid on the rush.
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Close to PPG in his rookie year in the A with fastest speed not in the NHL. Plays 2 way game, has sandpaper to his game and strong PKer.
Kreider potential?
Kreider potential?
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I think even the most optimistic Sens fans going into this year saw Formenten as a complimentary player on a 2nd line at best, and probably more likely the upside was an elite 3rd liner. The kind of guy that gets you 20-20 at his best without requiring PP time to generate that offense, and a guy that pots a lot of SH goals over his career. But perhaps middles at 15-15 a lot years too. Besides his speed, he is tenacious and physical and once he fills in, will be a load. Darren Helm, Brad Marchant and other very fast defensive forwards came to mind when projecting him, only Formenten is bigger. A Magnus Arvedsson comparison came to mind for old-time Sens fans.
But this has changed.
And perhaps just really in the last month or so, to some degree has his upside become more apparent. What he is doing at the AHL level at his age is tremendous, and was really only flying under the radar this year because of the other elite players in Belleville shining (Batherson and Norris amongst scoring leaders in league, and to an extent, Logan Brown scoring at a great pace too).
What is most mindblowing about Formenten, is it's incredibly rare that a forward prospect that hasn't scored more than 30 goals going back to Midget, is on pace to score 30 goals as a 20 year old in the AHL. It's simply a quantum leap.
Given his unique skillset, he will be a really fun guy for the Sens to plug into different lines in the coming years. I think he is penciled in for the bottom 6 next year at this point, and while he could easily get sent down for spells again, safe to say this will be his last full-time AHL season.
But this has changed.
And perhaps just really in the last month or so, to some degree has his upside become more apparent. What he is doing at the AHL level at his age is tremendous, and was really only flying under the radar this year because of the other elite players in Belleville shining (Batherson and Norris amongst scoring leaders in league, and to an extent, Logan Brown scoring at a great pace too).
What is most mindblowing about Formenten, is it's incredibly rare that a forward prospect that hasn't scored more than 30 goals going back to Midget, is on pace to score 30 goals as a 20 year old in the AHL. It's simply a quantum leap.
Given his unique skillset, he will be a really fun guy for the Sens to plug into different lines in the coming years. I think he is penciled in for the bottom 6 next year at this point, and while he could easily get sent down for spells again, safe to say this will be his last full-time AHL season.
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well... he had 29 in 48 in D+1 year.
Formenton's game has improved with added physical strength. He will get even stronger. He is gritty and a bit of a pest. Right now I would put him as #2 on the projected LW depth chart behind Brady. That could change this draft. But a solid 3rd line winger that can score , pk, and be a threat when there is more ice in 4 on 4 and 3 on 3 situations as well as being able to play up the lineup when needed is looking pretty good.
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I think the main point is 30 goal scorers in the AHL as a rookie is already rare enough. There is on average, one per year over the last few years.
So rare enough, but when it does happen, it would typically be from someone who has a 50 goal season in juniors on their resume. Scoring more goals per game as a rookie in the AHL at age 20, than you did in the CHL at 19, is not something I can think of as a comparison to find an example of.
Norris and Formenton will likely be the only guys to score 30 as rookies this year in the AHL. Norris himself had a short resume to a degree as a goal scorer, but 10 in 17 games in the NCAA was a great pace for a teen.
Barre-Boulet was the only rookie who scored 30 last year in the AHL and he had over 50 goals the year before in the Q.
Sprong was the only guy two years ago in the AHL to score 30 goals as a rookie, and he had averaged more than a goal per game in the Q the year prior.
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that's my comparison too. Going to be a very similar player, and that excites the hell out of me.
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We’re going to be a VERY, very annoying team to play against in a couple of years with him and Brady in the line-up. #PeskySens2.0?
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No way, Kreider is way stronger than Formenton. I think Hagelin is a better comparable.
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He is really wiry and strong with more offense than Hagelin. I think his impact will be closer to Kreider than Hagelin. His offensive game is growing nightly, I cant see him not on the team next year. He is exactly the type of player DJ likes and wants his team to play that way.
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Formenton has a bit of jam/grit to his game. I don't see Hagelin as a comparable other than they're both blazing fast.
I think Kreider is a good comparison, although I'm not sure Formenton will have as much offense at the pro level.
I think Kreider is a good comparison, although I'm not sure Formenton will have as much offense at the pro level.
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Yeah the Hagelin comparison is off quite a bit. Formenton is a much bigger body and uses it to drive the net similar to Kreider. Formenton is more slight put he will still drop his shoulder and drive through a guy, he likes to mix it up as well and is a bit of a pest. Formenton started the season getting no PP now that he is getting looks with the man advantage his production has taken off.
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Looks like Alex Formenton is here to stay at this point.
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Love this kid. Weird season he's having, though. Really struggled to find some productivity in Belleville, but part of that must be due to the state of the team. On the other hand, his callup to the NHL has been very impressive. Where do people think he fits in next year? Does he remain a 4th liner? His ice time of late certainly does not indicate 4th line...
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He's projecting as a bottom-six forward in my opinion.
With his speed and surprising physicality, he's a very effective forechecker and can turn pucks over, draw penalties, and keep teams from cheating on the PP.
I would be surprised if his offensive creativity and shot are reliable enough to turn him into a top six forward, but he is valuable for what he brings to the table. He appears to be a north-south player, good in transition and at cycling, but not necessarily a reliable offensive contributor with the man advantage, or seemingly able to create opportunities out of nothing like Tim Stutzle.
As far as the forward complement is concerned, aside from Stutzle and maybe Tkachuk, everyone else is projecting as a 2nd liner, so it's likely that the team will try and build a balanced attack around the aforementioned pair, Batherson, Norris, Pinto, White, Brown, Formenton and Nick Paul. Greig and Sokolov may earn spots in the years to come.
Dzingel may not factor in beyond this season, though I've liked the pop he's provided, and he genuinely seems to like playing here. Dadonov has been a disappointment I think, he's provided some streaky offence but he was brought in to support the PP and has one assist with the man advantage to show for it.
The challenge around a line-up like that is the lack of upper end skill on the powerplay, which has been a real issue for them this season and potentially going forward. The benefit is that it may be slightly more affordable and provides some depth.
Ultimately I think the lines will be comprised of match-ups based around chemistry, as opposed to sharp delineations in skill level. I had actually picked him among our prospects as the most likely full-time contributor to the team this year, so it was surprising to me that he took this long to get a real shot.
But Dorion and DJ clearly wanted to insulate the younger players on the Senators roster and went out and acquired Dadonov, Stepan, Paquette, Watson among others who essentially created an additional barrier between him and the starting line-up.
His speed, skill set and work ethic have made an immediate impact, and I think we're only now starting to see the kind of roster that Senators fans have been dying to see all year long.
You're right in that Belleville is essentially decimated with all of the promotions this year, with Sokolov, Crookshank, Thomson and Abramov the only legitimate NHL talents on the team.
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Thanks for the in-depth response! The Sens roster will be fascinating to keep an eye on as the years progress, those lines seem like they will be changing nightly next year. Looking forward to the shift almost entirely to their youth. Really fun team in the coming years imo
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It's been a rough handful of years. Hopefully the infusion of youth will bring some energy and galvanize interest in the local fanbase.
Most of Dorion's experienced veteran signings and trades were busts (Paquette, Stepan, J. Brown, Dadonov, Gudbranson, Murray, Coburn) with Zub, Dzingel and Austin Watson really the only exceptions.
The Ottawa fanbase has been marketed to on the basis of the youth, hopefully the management and coaching staff finally put some of their trust in the guys they carefully drafted and developed.
There won't been room for everyone, and guys like Chris Tierney, Logan Brown and maybe even Colin White may find themselves elsewhere before too long.
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Bondra wasn't that fast by the time we acquired him. He was a season and a half away from retirement.
It was one of the more mystifying moves we'd ever made because we already had 3 RWs (Alfredsson, Hossa, Havlat) and Bondra was forced to play on his off wing.
In terms of sheer speed, it's probably between Formenton and Martin Havlat, but Nick Paul (apparently in a straight line), Erik Karlsson and Antoine Vermette were speedsters too.
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