Luongo the first person to win their first cup after already being inducted into the HHOF?

[TruePowerSlave]

Deserved. Great player stuck mostly on poor teams.

Should have won the Vezina in 04.

 

[Shark Finn]

I'm sure Luongo gives two craps about people who say he didn't actually win a Cup.

 

[Nasti]

Imagine not ever winning an award, and someone else wins it and gives you a copy.

It’s a nice gesture but something tells me he would have turned it down if they hadn’t sprung it on him as a surprise.

Dionne is/was somewhat of an ambassador for the Kings (showing up to alum events and such) and he and Luc are close. Every team employee from management to the receptionist gets a ring. So why not someone in Dionne’s position? It’s cool but not as special as getting your name engraved, which he obviously didn’t.

 

[Moist ReadOnly]

In that case kind of lame to give him a ring.

Not at all

The making of an extra ring (or many) doesnt affect anyone outside those who receive it

Some fans and staff of champion-winning teams get them every year. They arent for sale to the public so there being 30 or 300 doesnt really matter

Im plenty sure he appreciated the gesture and enjoys having it - but also isnt naive enough to think he won a title as a player

 

[Janvonpobben]

He still has 0 cups as a player. Only stat that matter.

 

[Dread Clawz]

I had always heard of he was basically the director of goaltending, meaning oversees coaches, scouting, development etc when it comes to that position. He might know a thing or two about goaltending.



IIRC it was a gift of sorts, since he never won it as a player and the team wanted to give him a thank you for all of those years of high level play.

Yup, his brother Leo is more the hands on guy/coach that meets and works with all the goalies in the system, but also scouts. Lu coordinates with Leo and he said they talk everyday. Lu also scouts.

 

[HFpapi]

I don’t consider luongo being a cup winner on whatever advisor role he has.

This. As a former player who failed to win it, how do you allow yourself to parade around with the cup, eating pasta out of it, because you "won" it as what, like assistant to the executive vice president of player development? Coach or GM fine. He's entitled to do what he wants and feel how he feels but I couldn't do it.

 

[HFpapi]

yep, ran into him at the prospects tourney that was in Raleigh a couple years back, he's heavily involved in the goaltending development for Florida. I mean is "special advisor" really all that different from "goaltender development coach" in this context? Would ANYONE have qualms with the later being on the Cup?

First of all, yes, I think goaltending coach is pretty far down the list of people who can reasonably take much credit for winning a cup. But even so, if you didn't have a prominent playing career like Luongo did then fine, pat yourself on the back and call yourself a cup winner.

When you played in the NHL and failed to win it, I can't really see myself flipping the mental switch and referring to myself as or viewing myself as a "cup winner." For me it would never feel genuine.

No hate though, it's fine if he feels it's earned and deserved, I can't put myself in his shoes or really know what work he actually does.

 

[centipede2233]

This. As a former player who failed to win it, how do you allow yourself to parade around with the cup, eating pasta out of it, because you "won" it as what, like assistant to the executive vice president of player development? Coach or GM fine. He's entitled to do what he wants and feel how he feels but I couldn't do it.

It probably makes him feel better about having the highest GAA ever by a goalie in the finals…

 

[Moose Head]

Nm

 

[Sol]

What a weird thread. He didn’t win a cup,
He was gifted a ring.

 

[McShogun99]

If anyone deserves an honorary Stanley Cup ring it would be Marcel Dionne.

I hope the Jets give one to Hawerchuk's family after they win one.

 

[lextune]

It was Bob Essensa's first as well but he was just a goalie coach.

But Bob Essensa is not in the HHOF.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

What a weird thread. He didn’t win a cup,
He was gifted a ring.

The Florida Panthers won the Cup. He is part of the team, albeit in front office. His name is going on the Cup. He is a Cup winner.

Ya'll as weird asf about this. Bunch of journalists on Twitter crying that Luongo is happy about the win too.

 

[thegazelle]

Dionne is/was somewhat of an ambassador for the Kings (showing up to alum events and such)

It is interesting - when I think LA Kings, my association is not Gretzky, but Dionne. His name being synonymous with the Kings has never left me. Certainly would have been nice for him to have "earned" a ring as player or as an employee of the team in the early to mid 2010s. Was a good ambassador for the game when he played and continued to be so after.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Luongo winning a cup is about as true/relevant as Matthews and Hyman scoring 70.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Dionne is/was somewhat of an ambassador for the Kings (showing up to alum events and such) and he and Luc are close. Every team employee from management to the receptionist gets a ring. So why not someone in Dionne’s position? It’s cool but not as special as getting your name engraved, which he obviously didn’t.

That’s why I asked what his role was at that point — if he was still actively working with the team, even as an ambassador, it makes perfect sense. Like you said, just about everyone in the organization gets one for being part of the overall push to a title.

The way it was framed above made it sound like he was living life as a memorabilia store owner and they showed up with a ring for him. That’s where it would be lame. Imagine the Sharks winning the Cup 20 years from now and hunting down Joe Thornton to be like “hey, here’s that ring you never won!”. Even if well intentioned, it would come off as really misguided. It would be different if Thornton were still actively involved in the org, though.

 

[Sol]

The Florida Panthers won the Cup. He is part of the team, albeit in front office. His name is going on the Cup. He is a Cup winner.

Ya'll as weird asf about this. Bunch of journalists on Twitter crying that Luongo is happy about the win too.

lol what a weird way to look at it. It’s an organizational success but yeah the skaters win the cup. I always thought it was corny that so many personnel gets rings when they at best Indirectly contribute to the win. I think it’d be nice if some things was for the skaters exclusively since at the end of the day they’re the ones who win it.

 

[EmptyNetAssassin]

Bob was good pre-Luongo being an advisor and Panther's goalies have been a mess outside of Bob. Isn't Knight having personal issues? Luongo got his cup in management not as a player. Good for him, but not the same. Luongo was a hell of a goalie in his prime and peak.

 

[thefutures]

Bob was good pre-Luongo being an advisor and Panther's goalies have been a mess outside of Bob. Isn't Knight having personal issues? Luongo got his cup in management not as a player. Good for him, but not the same. Luongo was a hell of a goalie in his prime and peak.

Luongo did have a say in drafting Devon Levi who Zito turned into Reinhart who happened to score the game winner in game 7, if I'm remembering correctly.

 

[EmptyNetAssassin]

Luongo did have a say in drafting Devon Levi who Zito turned into Reinhart who happened to score the game winner in game 7, if I'm remembering correctly.

Zito made the trade not Luongo. Do you think Luongo called the sabres for him,hyped up Levi, and made the trade happen? Levi hasn't even played in the nhl and Reinhart went for what a top 6 player who has potential to do more on a contender usually goes for a first+ top prospect. Reinhart looked much better out of the Sabres orginization and is going to get paid for it. It was a good trade for all sides. Florida got better, Buffalo got pieces for the rebuild, and Levi gets a shot to be a goalie someday. My opinion is Luongo had little to do with that trade, but if you feel he did that is an opinion. If you link some sources showing Luongo was the reason for levi+1st for Reinhart I will give him credit.

 

[thefutures]

Zito made the trade not Luongo. Do you think Luongo called the sabres for him,hyped up Levi, and made the trade happen? Levi hasn't even played in the nhl and Reinhart went for what a top 6 player who has potential to do more on a contender usually goes for a first+ top prospect. Reinhart looked much better out of the Sabres orginization and is going to get paid for it. It was a good trade for all sides. Florida got better, Buffalo got pieces for the rebuild, and Levi gets a shot to be a goalie someday. My opinion is Luongo had little to do with that trade, but if you feel he did that is an opinion. If you link some sources showing Luongo was the reason for levi+1st for Reinhart I will give him credit.

Levi was a blue chip goalie prospect that made the deal work, if it was a lesser piece Reinhart might have been moved elsewhere. Luongo picked Levi giving Florida an asset to improve the team. I didn't say luongo made the trade I said luongo got them Levi.

 

[EmptyNetAssassin]

Levi was a blue chip goalie prospect that made the deal work, if it was a lesser piece Reinhart might have been moved elsewhere. Luongo picked Levi giving Florida an asset to improve the team. I didn't say luongo made the trade I said luongo got them Levi.

So in conclusion Luongo had very little to do with the trade or winning the cup.

 

[The Burdened]

Lou really contributed a lot to that cup. What a warrior

 

[Nasti]

lol what a weird way to look at it. It’s an organizational success but yeah the skaters win the cup. I always thought it was corny that so many personnel gets rings when they at best Indirectly contribute to the win. I think it’d be nice if some things was for the skaters exclusively since at the end of the day they’re the ones who win it.

Like organs in the body, everything is connected. The success of the franchise is more than just the players and everyone deserves to be recognized. People put in long hours in sports for not necessarily a lot of pay. I know because I’ve done it. The players get their names engraved. That’s their exclusive thing.