Well, if Canucks are trading Schenn... odds are they will be on "different ends of the spectrum" from the Oilers. I agree that Schenn is quite valuable to the Canucks. However, if Canucks choose to sell then Schenn is one of our very best trade asset to return positive value. I love Schenn but Canucks are not going to fix that D core overnight and Schenn very likely won't be on the D core long-term. It's good asset management.
Schenns value to the team is higher than a 3rd we’d potentially get. We need him here while Hughes continues to mature.
Seems that everyone with a shut down defenseman now thinks they are getting the Ben Chairot deal.
It's a UFA situation. Highly unlikely that he re-signs with the team that you trade him to. Vancouver is only trading him if they aren't making the playoffs. I don't think it makes much sense to ask for that much of a premium, and I don't think there is a precedent for it. Just take the highest 2nd you can get if that's what the offers are. Try for a throw in prospect.
What is the highest pick though? The teams that want him are bound for the playoffs and regardless of seed it comes down to where they get knocked out. Can trade him to the 8th seed that wins the cup for all you know. If he’s moved in the division there is a premium, if he moves in the conference there is a tiny uptick, if he goes to the East I imagine it’s a second depending on a bidding war for a cost controlled asset that is built for the playoffs.
I think most GM's would know which teams 2nd round pick they feel will be highest. We didn't see "in division" premiums with a lot of deadline deals last year, I think you are blowing that out of proportion, big time. If this was a guy with 3 or 4 years left on his deal, yes, you want him in the other conference if you think he is going to hurt your team. For a rental, you just take what you feel the best offer is. Maybe pick a team ranked a few spots later if you really want to put the screws to a division rival, but it isn't standard for teams to trade extra for rentals like you are suggesting.
This is just a case of my dad can beat up your dad. A fan base that is upset it can’t have pieces without giving up anything of significance. You either join the bidding war or stay out and that is a teams prerogative.
I think this is all based on a scenario where the Canucks aren't making the playoffs. So, why would they actively shrink the market for someone on an expiring contract?
That's not it at all. It's a case of a fanbase thinking every good piece they have is worth a mountain of gold. It's also a case where you don't recognize that a bidding war doesn't mean GM's will pay double or triple value for a guy. First round picks this year are worth a premium. Next years first? Yeah, that might be more likely, but I am pretty sure this year's first is not going to happen for Schenn.
I mean. Savard got a first a year before. Manson got the equivalent of a 1st.
