Kings Video: Luc Robitaille Press Conference

[Axl Rhoadz]

Except on this board, sorry to contradict you here.....revisionism runs amok here.

exactly. @All The Kings Men did you forget what page you were on?

 

[FSL KINGS]

I assumed that FSL knew that Kopitar didn't stab Brown in the back but maybe that's my fault for assuming....


So just to be clear... this has been discussed by multiple parties multiple times over multiple years and in nobody's version of the events does Kopitar come out looking villainous.

Kopi caught red handed.

 

[All The Kings Men]

Except on this board, sorry to contradict you here.....revisionism runs amok here.

good clarification what I meant to say was discussed by Lombardi, Brown and other involved parties.

 

[BigKing]

"Leading by example" is tough when the captain is a hockey robot. When you go with a captain that is "lead by example", you are usually talking about a character guy like Adam Lowry, Brayden Schenn, Brady Tkachuk and not necessarily the best player on the team, highest scorer etc. If it is a "by example" guy like Kopitar who is a robot, you better have guys like Matthew Tkachuk and Bennett to ride shotgun to a Barkov type. While @bland will potentially refute any Dustin Brown praise in this regard, this is a guy that put down 93 hits in 20 2012 playoff games. He was a complete animal. Easy to point to Richards hit on Burrows in Game 1 of the Vancouver series as an example of a leader setting an example as well. It's not shocking that the only career fights for 11 & 8 also occurred in the 2012 season. This is why everyone carries a torch for MR, Williams, Greene, Mitchell, Stoll etc. I'd easily toss Nolan, Fraser, and Lewis into that mix as well.

Kopitar is a complete and total gentlemen. Fantastic career. Just a machine and a coach's dream. Love the guy and am forever grateful. Even a guy like Sutter was in love with him because you just get to put him out there and you know what you are going to get. We are still getting the same thing from him as we did 10 years ago, just at a much slower pace.

He is not inspiring though, and either is #8. That is my biggest problem with the two of them in leadership roles. Game 5, season slipping away on home ice. You know what would have blew the roof off the building and sparked the team? The 6'4", 225 pound captain unexpectedly going out and making it a point to line someone up in a big way and deliver a big hit. This has never happened. Ever. Instead, it is just stick to the game plan even when you are getting your ass caved in. I've been at every home playoff game since 2002, save for Game 3 of the Ducks series. I was begging for someone to do something in Game 5. This team doesn't have much in the way of anyone that will do anything necessary, but they might try to if their captain or #8 pulled them into the fight.

The Bluc era has been earmarked by a lack of passion and a playing style that does not win playoff series. Either Blake put together a team full of mostly p***yes, or a standard is set that everyone follows along with. I know it is the latter and it has been devastating to the development of the young players.

My current underwriting team has combined commercial underwriting experience of less than a year. I've been at my current bank for 13 years. I don't have kids of my own, but I've realized that I'm creating miniature BigKings: LittleKings, if you will. They are copying their leader. This isn't difficult to understand.

 

[bland]

"Leading by example" is tough when the captain is a hockey robot. When you go with a captain that is "lead by example", you are usually talking about a character guy like Adam Lowry, Brayden Schenn, Brady Tkachuk and not necessarily the best player on the team, highest scorer etc. If it is a "by example" guy like Kopitar who is a robot, you better have guys like Matthew Tkachuk and Bennett to ride shotgun to a Barkov type. While @bland will potentially refute any Dustin Brown praise in this regard, this is a guy that put down 93 hits in 20 2012 playoff games. He was a complete animal. Easy to point to Richards hit on Burrows in Game 1 of the Vancouver series as an example of a leader setting an example as well. It's not shocking that the only career fights for 11 & 8 also occurred in the 2012 season. This is why everyone carries a torch for MR, Williams, Greene, Mitchell, Stoll etc. I'd easily toss Nolan, Fraser, and Lewis into that mix as well.

Kopitar is a complete and total gentlemen. Fantastic career. Just a machine and a coach's dream. Love the guy and am forever grateful. Even a guy like Sutter was in love with him because you just get to put him out there and you know what you are going to get. We are still getting the same thing from him as we did 10 years ago, just at a much slower pace.

He is not inspiring though, and either is #8. That is my biggest problem with the two of them in leadership roles. Game 5, season slipping away on home ice. You know what would have blew the roof off the building and sparked the team? The 6'4", 225 pound captain unexpectedly going out and making it a point to line someone up in a big way and deliver a big hit. This has never happened. Ever. Instead, it is just stick to the game plan even when you are getting your ass caved in. I've been at every home playoff game since 2002, save for Game 3 of the Ducks series. I was begging for someone to do something in Game 5. This team doesn't have much in the way of anyone that will do anything necessary, but they might try to if their captain or #8 pulled them into the fight.

The Bluc era has been earmarked by a lack of passion and a playing style that does not win playoff series. Either Blake put together a team full of mostly p***yes, or a standard is set that everyone follows along with. I know it is the latter and it has been devastating to the development of the young players.

My current underwriting team has combined commercial underwriting experience of less than a year. I've been at my current bank for 13 years. I don't have kids of my own, but I've realized that I'm creating miniature BigKings: LittleKings, if you will. They are copying their leader. This isn't difficult to understand.

Kopitar is the absolute ideal lieutenant. He can do his job as well as anybody that ever played. But put him in charge and you will never get out of the foxhole.

You cannot blame any coach for over-playing him - you know what you will get, and it will be done well. The issue here isn't Kopitar directly, it's having sacred cows for soooooo long without understanding or attempting to address the issues that you will get with ANY player. Anze's issue is that he has chosen consistency over striving for greatness. Its a risk-less position to take, and it would make him the ideal teammate as long as you have somebody who understands and desires to raise the emotional level when needed. The only success in his career was when his team had that element.

 

[Sol]

I assumed that FSL knew that Kopitar didn't stab Brown in the back but maybe that's my fault for assuming....


So just to be clear... this has been discussed by multiple parties multiple times over multiple years and in nobody's version of the events does Kopitar come out looking villainous.

Is the full story out there by the way?

 

[Sol]

"Leading by example" is tough when the captain is a hockey robot. When you go with a captain that is "lead by example", you are usually talking about a character guy like Adam Lowry, Brayden Schenn, Brady Tkachuk and not necessarily the best player on the team, highest scorer etc. If it is a "by example" guy like Kopitar who is a robot, you better have guys like Matthew Tkachuk and Bennett to ride shotgun to a Barkov type. While @bland will potentially refute any Dustin Brown praise in this regard, this is a guy that put down 93 hits in 20 2012 playoff games. He was a complete animal. Easy to point to Richards hit on Burrows in Game 1 of the Vancouver series as an example of a leader setting an example as well. It's not shocking that the only career fights for 11 & 8 also occurred in the 2012 season. This is why everyone carries a torch for MR, Williams, Greene, Mitchell, Stoll etc. I'd easily toss Nolan, Fraser, and Lewis into that mix as well.

Kopitar is a complete and total gentlemen. Fantastic career. Just a machine and a coach's dream. Love the guy and am forever grateful. Even a guy like Sutter was in love with him because you just get to put him out there and you know what you are going to get. We are still getting the same thing from him as we did 10 years ago, just at a much slower pace.

He is not inspiring though, and either is #8. That is my biggest problem with the two of them in leadership roles. Game 5, season slipping away on home ice. You know what would have blew the roof off the building and sparked the team? The 6'4", 225 pound captain unexpectedly going out and making it a point to line someone up in a big way and deliver a big hit. This has never happened. Ever. Instead, it is just stick to the game plan even when you are getting your ass caved in. I've been at every home playoff game since 2002, save for Game 3 of the Ducks series. I was begging for someone to do something in Game 5. This team doesn't have much in the way of anyone that will do anything necessary, but they might try to if their captain or #8 pulled them into the fight.

The Bluc era has been earmarked by a lack of passion and a playing style that does not win playoff series. Either Blake put together a team full of mostly p***yes, or a standard is set that everyone follows along with. I know it is the latter and it has been devastating to the development of the young players.

My current underwriting team has combined commercial underwriting experience of less than a year. I've been at my current bank for 13 years. I don't have kids of my own, but I've realized that I'm creating miniature BigKings: LittleKings, if you will. They are copying their leader. This isn't difficult to understand.

That’s why Kopitar and Doughty are quite possibly the worst leaders in the NHL.

I don’t know exactly how it works but I have no idea why the C is still on his chest. Kopitar is softer than toilet paper. Why on earth would anyone follow this guy? He should be leading by example, not being a softer than shit player who never stands up for any of his team mates. Always disgusting how he refuses to ever stand up for anyone when they jump Kempe or whatever.

Kopitar the leader is dog shit. Kopitar the player is fine.

Again, players like Dustin brown sealed the deal in Vancouver when he smoked Sedin. The series with the coyotes ended the NEXT shift when he took out Roszival. How do you guys forget this when you try to pretend Kopitar is a good leader.

 

[Johnny Utah]

I would trade anything for Brady Tkachuk.

 

[Nasti]

I think he was captain in the last playoffs loss to the Sharks.

That Sharks series was the last time Brown wore the C.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

That’s why Kopitar and Doughty are quite possibly the worst leaders in the NHL.

I don’t know exactly how it works but I have no idea why the C is still on his chest. Kopitar is softer than toilet paper. Why on earth would anyone follow this guy? He should be leading by example, not being a softer than shit player who never stands up for any of his team mates. Always disgusting how he refuses to ever stand up for anyone when they jump Kempe or whatever.

Kopitar the leader is dog shit. Kopitar the player is fine.

Again, players like Dustin brown sealed the deal in Vancouver when he smoked Sedin. The series with the coyotes ended the NEXT shift when he took out Roszival. How do you guys forget this when you try to pretend Kopitar is a good leader.

I always look at it as

did anyone think we were going to lose the series after Brown sent Sedin into the shadow realm?

vs.

did anything think we were going to win the series after the Game 3 collapse this year?

 

[All The Kings Men]

Is the full story out there by the way?

I think between the Lombardi on Cam and Strick podcast and the Dustin Brown on ATKM one can piece together enough of what happened to be confident enough.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Cam & Strick is an underrated podcast. Love Cam Janssen.

 

[Sol]

I always look at it as

did anyone think we were going to lose the series after Brown sent Sedin into the shadow realm?

vs.

did anything think we were going to win the series after the Game 3 collapse this year?

This is exactly the best way to put it, thank you.

We knew the second Brown killed Sedin and Richards got to Burrows, and Kesler tumbleweed moment that the series was set.

If people are going to pretend that Kopitar isn’t an awful leader than how do you just like not look at our last captain who single handedly ended series, not by goals, but showing the other team he isn’t afraid to get down and dirty.

Kopitar is a pedestal princess as far as I am concerned.

Brown single handedly unraveled the Coyotes that allowed Penner to score the goal the NEXT f***ing shift man. How does anyone ever get this handshake line?



This handshake line should tell you exactly why the Kings won the cup that year and who f***ing did it.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Hahaha love Hanzal having the lack of integrity to yap at brown after this with time running down late in a walloping




And Doan with the same after spending the whole series on the edge including a major board

funny enough Smith was the only one to take it like a man

 

[Johnny Utah]

Kings had Nolan (who fought Stewart in the playoffs), Dwight King (who's brother was a top 5 heavy in his era) - Dwight fought BJ Crombeen in the playoffs, Clifford (who was hurt in 2012 but was awesome in 2014 and also fought Desjardins in the playoffs), Fraser, Greene, and Mitchell. That is a lot of guys who can fight, hit, swing the stick, and make life hell.

Kings basically have three players like that now - Jeannot, Helenius and Edmundson. Last year, they had one, Englund.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

‘Awful leader’…

It’s times like this where the old Axl would say something to get himself banned….<must refrain>

 

[FSL KINGS]

It's nice seeing fans understanding the importance of physical play. Now if we only had a coach that understood it.

 

[The Eyeball Kid]

Unbelievable, right. One thing that’s a constant here - ridiculous amounts of disrespect toward the org we are supposed to be fans of. f***ing disgusting.

Fans are fed up with the inferior product while being continually fed the 'we're right there' bull crap.
It's legitimate criticism. Everyone involved in this debacle deserves it.
The days of accepting the company line is over.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Fans are fed up with the inferior product while being continually fed the 'we're right there' bull crap.
It's legitimate criticism. Everyone involved in this debacle deserves it.
The days of accepting the company line is over.

You cancel your season ticks?

 

[The Eyeball Kid]

You cancel your season ticks?

I did. Hope whoever takes them enjoys the games.
The only options I have are voicing my opinions and withholding my money.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

I did. Hope whoever takes them enjoys the games.
The only options I have are voicing my opinions and withholding my money.

Respect.

 

[FrozenKing18]

This is exactly the best way to put it, thank you.

We knew the second Brown killed Sedin and Richards got to Burrows, and Kesler tumbleweed moment that the series was set.

If people are going to pretend that Kopitar isn’t an awful leader than how do you just like not look at our last captain who single handedly ended series, not by goals, but showing the other team he isn’t afraid to get down and dirty.

Kopitar is a pedestal princess as far as I am concerned.

Brown single handedly unraveled the Coyotes that allowed Penner to score the goal the NEXT f***ing shift man. How does anyone ever get this handshake line?



This handshake line should tell you exactly why the Kings won the cup that year and who f***ing did it.

I f***ing loved that series ending. Absolute f***ing chaos. The reactions after Penner’s goal were gold.

 

[Sol]

Hahaha love Hanzal having the lack of integrity to yap at brown after this with time running down late in a walloping




And Doan with the same after spending the whole series on the edge including a major board

funny enough Smith was the only one to take it like a man

Legit what a piece of shit though. Accelerates into the board and completely follows through. Brown was lucky somehow he didn’t get injured from that

 

[Sol]

I f***ing loved that series ending. Absolute f***ing chaos. The reactions after Penner’s goal were gold.

And brown was the main man behind most of the havoc. I always loved brown even when people were ready to send him near 2011.


That’s why this bothers me so much. RJ put it best. With how the Kings are now and how bad the leadership is with Kopitar at the helm, when the Kings lost game 3 and especially 4. You knew they weren’t coming back from it. With Brown he just went out there and showed the other team he was ready to go.

Even Mr. intangibles himself Mike Richards, getting under the skin of Kesler and Burrows. It’s super important to have players like that leading the team. Not whatever pedestal princess Kopitar is.