Kings Video: Luc Robitaille Press Conference

Luc gets to hire his second GM. We all know he’s going to fail once again.

So it’s a minimum of three more years of shitting the bed before he is gone and the true reset begins.
That's the thing that bothers me with Luc, it will now be four coaches and two GMs with mostly the same players in key roles over 8 seasons.
After turning one of the top prospect pools in the league into one of the near bottom of the league pools, with no top line talent to show for it all.
With no postseason success to speak of.

At some point you would think people would start to understand the coaches don't matter or the GM making questionable trades isn't what is holding the team back, but maybe the players are the problem?
And who is the person desperately still thinking this team can win with 11 and 8?
 
Just watched the press conference. Luc completely avoided the question that asked if he looked at his own role/performance

The potential external candidates from outside don’t excite me. A first time GM wouldn’t bother me in principle.

In terms of internal candidates we obviously have no visibility of how much of a voice they had over the last few years. Of the internal options the reason I favour Yannetti is that I do think he thinks differently. His role is also far enough removed from the professional setup of the main roster that I don’t think he’s likely to have much, if any influence on it. I don’t think someone like Emerson would be a meaningful change, Yannetti MIGHT be.

It’s incredibly hard to assess as we simply don’t know how the internal options affected the NHL roster be that directly or otherwise.
Do you think ANYONE would be a meaningful change with Luc in the shadows though?
Imagine getting the GM job and then your boss tells you "ok welcome aboard, so you can do anything you want, except trade 8 and 11, they have to be your 1D and 1C, and also you have to keep Hiller and his staff. Oh and you also can't change the style of play too drastically since 8 and 11 really prefer a slower defensive style."

No GM that is serious about the job is signing up for that.
 
All we can do is hope that Beckerman saw the conference and was embarrassed. He probably does not want to go through the hassle of finding a replacement but having Luc representing the organization is a disgrace.
That's a lot to hope for.

AEG doesn't care as long as the money keeps rolling in.
Because of his days as player, Luc is the golden child to AEG. They need to understand that we would all deport Luc if we had a buddy who worked at ICE.


Another thing that is totally sad is Luc still trying to play the rookie who spoke poor English and laughing at everything card.
Luc, newsflash, it was cool in 1987, its annoying and dumb 40 years later. You are supposed to be a professional competent executive.
 
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Like Kopi, QB doesnt have anger, he's pretty docile. But I think Kopi has made it worse. Being around Kopi is like a soy milk IV.
I actually just met Kopi at one of my son's hockey tournaments on Easter weekend. Great guy - but yeah, you need those edgy players like Tkachuk to go far in the playoffs. I've said this in another thread but I don't think Kopi and Doughty were the main reasons we won in 2012/2014. We had Quick, Richards, Greene, Stoll, Williams - guys that bleed for the team. You need more people like that. I don't see Byfield as that either, but he should be a nice piece and will likely learn from this year's disappointment.

Even though Edmonton was without some players (namely Ekholm), they could very well win the cup this year. I still think the Kings can compete if they add the right pieces.
 
I actually just met Kopi at one of my son's hockey tournaments on Easter weekend. Great guy - but yeah, you need those edgy players like Tkachuk to go far in the playoffs. I've said this in another thread but I don't think Kopi and Doughty were the main reasons we won in 2012/2014. We had Quick, Richards, Greene, Stoll, Williams - guys that bleed for the team. You need more people like that. I don't see Byfield as that either, but he should be a nice piece and will likely learn from this year's disappointment.

Even though Edmonton was without some players (namely Ekholm), they could very well win the cup this year. I still think the Kings can compete if they add the right pieces.
Don’t forget Willie Mitchell, King and Nolan
 
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I actually just met Kopi at one of my son's hockey tournaments on Easter weekend. Great guy - but yeah, you need those edgy players like Tkachuk to go far in the playoffs. I've said this in another thread but I don't think Kopi and Doughty were the main reasons we won in 2012/2014. We had Quick, Richards, Greene, Stoll, Williams - guys that bleed for the team. You need more people like that. I don't see Byfield as that either, but he should be a nice piece and will likely learn from this year's disappointment.

Even though Edmonton was without some players (namely Ekholm), they could very well win the cup this year. I still think the Kings can compete if they add the right pieces.
So the guy that led or tied the team in total points for both runs wasn't instrumental in winning in 2012 or 2014, or the top scoring defenseman who squared off against the other teams best offensive lines in both runs wasn't a main reason.

Quick played great in 2012 and Williams got hot in 2014, but the bottom line is, no Kopi and Doughty, the Kings don't sniff a cup.

I don't recall any of those players you mentioned, sans Quick, winning a cup previous to 2012 on other teams that got close. I could argue that those teams that got close, if they had Kopi and Doughty they actually win the cup, because they did when they played with them.

2 Kings all time greats on the downside of their careers it is what it is, but all this hate because they are aging out out is BS.
 
If he’s saying that Hiller is staying then I’d say that it’s very clear that Luc is truly the one with his hand on the wheel

It's like with regarding Coach Hiller.

"The GM has final say in the roster decisions as long as it's decisions I like."
Luc was a walking contradiction in that presser.
Getting pretty tired of the bitching about Hiller.

Our players needed to be better; if Byfield is able to simply clear the puck we win the series.

We whined about Todd M, Willie Desjardins, John Stevens, etc. Odds are you'll whine about whoever would replace him.

Hell, Jim Hiller probably has one of, if not the highest win % as a coach behind the Kings bench in our history. Like you guys think Jim Hiller was telling the team to sit back on leads? No. Our players did.
Luc that you?!
 
Hell, Jim Hiller probably has one of, if not the highest win % as a coach behind the Kings bench in our history. Like you guys think Jim Hiller was telling the team to sit back on leads? No. Our players did.
Yes, it's completely evident to all the experts on HFBoards....however, Luc, Hiller and the entire team have made a pact to completely lie about it. Crazy, huh?
 
I just don’t get how he manages to fool the execs at AEG into allowing him what seems like near total control of a major league sports franchise worth billions.

Is Luc more like Littlefinger or more like Anna Nicole Smith?

To steal a quote from Arthur C. Clarke: “Both are equally terrifying.”

I know others have mentioned it, but we may never see any real change until Phil passes and his heirs decide to cash out the Kings.



As for Doughty and Kopitar and their contributions to the Cup runs:

Unless you replace Kopitar with one of the two Penguins centers, it is unlikely the 2012 Kings would have made the playoffs at all. The supposed difference makers behind him came up so small during the regular season, they would not have even had the chance to show anything in the postseason.

And in 2014, Drew Doughty was so much better than anyone else on the team during those playoffs that it is hard not to give him a huge amount of the credit for the end result. At that point, I do not think there was a defender in the world who could have played at his level, and considering the razor thin margins in all the Western series, they needed every bit of it.

The last ten years have been miserable, and those players, especially Doughty, share a lot of the blame. But there are no banners without those two. People always romanticize the secondary pieces. This is common with a lot of great sports teams.
 
And in 2014, Drew Doughty was so much better than anyone else on the team during those playoffs that it is hard not to give him a huge amount of the credit for the end result. At that point, I do not think there was a defender in the world who could have played at his level, and considering the razor thin margins in all the Western series, they needed every bit of it.

Doughty played 747 minutes in 2014, taking on the toughest assignments night in and night out. It's unfortunately really understated how impressive he was during that run.
 
The last ten years have been miserable, and those players, especially Doughty, share a lot of the blame. But there are no banners without those two. People always romanticize the secondary pieces. This is common with a lot of great sports teams.
What does it take to win a race in F1?

The right car? The right driver? The right engineers?

Well none of that matters if you don't have a steering wheel.
 
Getting pretty tired of the bitching about Hiller.

Our players needed to be better; if Byfield is able to simply clear the puck we win the series.

We whined about Todd M, Willie Desjardins, John Stevens, etc. Odds are you'll whine about whoever would replace him.

Hell, Jim Hiller probably has one of, if not the highest win % as a coach behind the Kings bench in our history. Like you guys think Jim Hiller was telling the team to sit back on leads? No. Our players did.
LOL where to even start with this......

Hell, Jim Hiller probably has one of, if not the highest win % as a coach behind the Kings bench in our history. Like you guys think Jim Hiller was telling the team to sit back on leads? No. Our players did.
Sports aren't played for the regular season. It's about a cup or building towards one. If you think the regular season matters, I have the team for you

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We whined about Todd M, Willie Desjardins, John Stevens, etc. Odds are you'll whine about whoever would replace him.
As we should, The Kings haven't had a good coach since Sutter. Stevens is a good assistant not a head coach, Desjardins was a tire fire, Todd is a koala
Let's play a "where are they now":
Desjardins is in the WHL. He hasn't coached in the NHL since he coached the Kings. Why do you think that is?
Stevens is an assistant. Why do you think that is?
Todd is still a koala

Our players needed to be better; if Byfield is able to simply clear the puck we win the series.

The Kings lost that series because Hiller was badly outcoached and used way too short of a bench. The Kings were exhausted every third period, and even if do focus in on Byfield not clearing that puck, I blame fatigue more than anything else. They were exhausted and icing it meant no line change.

Getting pretty tired of the bitching about Hiller.
Woudn't it be grand if Blake and the front office could hire a legit coaching staff?
 
Doughty played 747 minutes in 2014, taking on the toughest assignments night in and night out. It's unfortunately really understated how impressive he was during that run.

Doughty had an argument for best player in the world from pole to pole in 2014 and the Williams Conn Smythe tarnishes his legacy

You already see it in discussions on Kopitar, Doughty, and Quick...'he only has 1 norris' 'no conn smythe' 'no vezina' 'no mvp season' because they were jipped by being on the west coast, people can now use that against them. Like if I have to hear Bergeron >>>> Kopitar one more time I might snap.
 
Getting pretty tired of the bitching about Hiller.

Our players needed to be better; if Byfield is able to simply clear the puck we win the series.

We whined about Todd M, Willie Desjardins, John Stevens, etc. Odds are you'll whine about whoever would replace him.

Hell, Jim Hiller probably has one of, if not the highest win % as a coach behind the Kings bench in our history. Like you guys think Jim Hiller was telling the team to sit back on leads? No. Our players did.
About the same as Sutter with Sutter having 425 games. Slightly higher than Andy Murray who also had over 400 games.
 
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