Kings Video: Luc Robitaille Press Conference

[The Eyeball Kid]

Kings are not going anywhere with Luc in charge. He said today that Hiller will be back as coach , threw his support behind him. Hiller did a complete choke job in playoffs and Luc says it will be hard for the new GM to get rid of him, basically the new GM wil be told to keep Hiller.

Yes men only need apply. Mr Bergevin please pick up the white courtesy phone.
F Luc

 

[DryIslandBartender]

If the isles don’t hire Burgerbin, Luc will hire him.

 

[The Eyeball Kid]

Getting pretty tired of the bitching about Hiller.

Our players needed to be better; if Byfield is able to simply clear the puck we win the series.

We whined about Todd M, Willie Desjardins, John Stevens, etc. Odds are you'll whine about whoever would replace him.

Hell, Jim Hiller probably has one of, if not the highest win % as a coach behind the Kings bench in our history. Like you guys think Jim Hiller was telling the team to sit back on leads? No. Our players did.

Please.

1) Who controls ice time, which directly caused them to run out of gas?
2) Even conceding your last point for arguments sake, what did he do about it?
So, he went against himself and let them do it?

C'mon. He's a clown and a choker. We all saw it.

 

[Nasti]

Did you guys know that Luc Robitaiile somehow banned Sean Avery from 52 rinks in California?

The star of Oppenheimer? THAT Sean Avery?

 

[Statto]

Yep. Him and Drew sabotaged the rebuild. Zero sympathy.

He's a captain but not much of a leader.

A no they didn’t. It’s down to those above them to make decisions for the franchise, not them. It’s not their failing.

You’re not in the room, you have no idea one way or the other (neither do I). He’s just not the rah-rah, chest beating skipper you want to see. You don’t need to do that to be a good leader.

 

[bland]

A no they didn’t. It’s down to those above them to make decisions for the franchise, not them. It’s not their failing.

You’re not in the room, you have no idea one way or the other (neither do I). He’s just not the rah-rah, chest beating skipper you want to see. You don’t need to do that to be a good leader.

Sorry, he is dead on. The "leadership" here on ice has been a problem for over a decade. Kopitar has no business wearing a C. He is a specialist, an abnormality of a highly skilled player who has chosen to cheat offense and leadership in favor of settling down into a status quo that cannot win. He has chosen to play a supporting style of game instead of leading from the front. The proof is in the stale-ass pudding we have had to choke down.

And yeah, you can't lead players of different generations, different ambitions and different skill sets than his by "example". Respect is passive - leadership is active. There has been absolutely nothing positive to point to in his tenure as captain. No team success, extremely limited over-achievement, no players exceeding or hell, even reaching their potential with him as an example. All Kopitar does is keep on keeping on with mediocre results at absolute best. Nothing ever coaleces into anything larger than the sum of its parts.

There is no legitimate argument to be made that points to his presence over the past decade being a good thing for this franchise. It's just a long, apparently never ending period of accepting mediocrity and shrugging your shoulders at the results. Guess what? He will get 65 points next year and nothing will change.

 

[Statto]

Sorry, he is dead on. The "leadership" here on ice has been a problem for over a decade. Kopitar has no business wearing a C. He is a specialist, an abnormality of a highly skilled player who has chosen to cheat offense and leadership in favor of settling down into a status quo that cannot win. He has chosen to play a supporting style of game instead of leading from the front. The proof is in the stale-ass pudding we have had to choke down.

And yeah, you can't lead players of different generations, different ambitions and different skill sets than his by "example". Respect is passive - leadership is active. There has been absolutely nothing positive to point to in his tenure as captain. No team success, extremely limited over-achievement, no players exceeding or hell, even reaching their potential with him as an example. All Kopitar does is keep on keeping on with mediocre results at absolute best. Nothing ever coaleces into anything larger than the sum of its parts.

There is no legitimate argument to be made that points to his presence over the past decade being a good thing for this franchise. It's just a long, apparently never ending period of accepting mediocrity and shrugging your shoulders at the results. Guess what? He will get 65 points next year and nothing will change.

Disagree. There are different ways to lead and for my money the issue has been a wider gap in leadership in the whole room. No Greene types etc. The whole room needs to be strong, it can’t be on one guy. Even just having one leader like Messier isn’t enough, if you swap him and Kopi there still isn’t enough leadership in that room.

There’s a reason why Edmundson made such an impact and I also think it’s why Burroughs stuck around. Are there better Captains out there? I’m sure there are but the problem is the supporting cast not having the right blend. The cup team had something like 8 guys that were Captain material, of different types, whereas this team has… nobody really. Kopitar (based on how players talk about him), Edmundson and then maybe Kempe but even he’s not a clear cut choice.

I agree leadership is active but it doesn’t have to be chest thumping. One of the best Captains I’ve seen was similar (outwardly) to Kopitar. He led by example in much the same way as Kopi and was awesome in the room and on the bench. He was superb and definitely a leader. I’ve also seen the chest thumpers be absolute awful leaders behind the scenes, simply awful Captains that outwardly seemed like ‘leaders of men’. I think everyone jumps to conclusions when you can’t, without understanding the room dynamic.

It’s a collective leadership failure from what I see not a Kopitar one.

I also think Kopitar is playing how they developed him to play. I don’t think it’s a choice as such. That’s a separate discussion though.

 

[Bandit]

Getting pretty tired of the bitching about Hiller.

Our players needed to be better; if Byfield is able to simply clear the puck we win the series.

We whined about Todd M, Willie Desjardins, John Stevens, etc. Odds are you'll whine about whoever would replace him.

Hell, Jim Hiller probably has one of, if not the highest win % as a coach behind the Kings bench in our history. Like you guys think Jim Hiller was telling the team to sit back on leads? No. Our players did.

He went away from the strategy that was very successful in the regular season to back to the strategy that lost the Kings the series three straight years AGAINST THE SAME f***ING TEAM.

Also the Kings “sat back” because they were exhausted because Hiller decided that playing a full roster was optional.

Hiller sucks.

 

[psych3man]

Did you guys know that Luc Robitaiile somehow banned Sean Avery from 52 rinks in California?

The only straight out character insult against a player I ever heard Bob Miller deliver was about Sean Avery after he left.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

The only straight out character insult against a player I ever heard Bob Miller deliver was about Sean Avery after he left.

Mattias Norstrom and Mark Hardy both wanted to kick his ass.

 

[BringTheReign]

But I still love the kids.

I've got all the time in the world for Byfield, Clarke, Turcotte, Laferriere, etc, but the marriage began crumbling when we metaphorically put up Faber, Vilardi, and multiple 1st round picks up for adoption.

 

[SmytheKing]

Mattias Norstrom and Mark Hardy both wanted to kick his ass.

Patrick O'Sullivan told me in a DM on Twitter a bunch of years ago about what he was doing (vaguely) in the locker room and, it wasn't just those guys that wanted to beat the snot out of him.

 

[Kingspiracy]

Mattias Norstrom and Mark Hardy both wanted to kick his ass.

Bob miller would smashed both of them

 

[FrozenKing18]

Bergeron v Kopitar is a good litmus test for hardcore hockey fans.

Kopitar does everything Bergeron ever did but was bigger, more durable, and superior offensively.

The only argument you can make for Bergeron is intangibles. And still, it’s not like Bergeron doesn’t have his own questionable losses.

I’ll always throw in the “switch teams” argument. Can Bergeron replicate with Kopi’s wingers? And vice versa.

 

[Nasti]

Mattias Norstrom and Mark Hardy both wanted to kick his ass.

So did all of his Stars teammates after his sloppy seconds comment.

 

[bland]

Disagree. There are different ways to lead and for my money the issue has been a wider gap in leadership in the whole room. No Greene types etc. The whole room needs to be strong, it can’t be on one guy. Even just having one leader like Messier isn’t enough, if you swap him and Kopi there still isn’t enough leadership in that room.

There’s a reason why Edmundson made such an impact and I also think it’s why Burroughs stuck around. Are there better Captains out there? I’m sure there are but the problem is the supporting cast not having the right blend. The cup team had something like 8 guys that were Captain material, of different types, whereas this team has… nobody really. Kopitar (based on how players talk about him), Edmundson and then maybe Kempe but even he’s not a clear cut choice.

I agree leadership is active but it doesn’t have to be chest thumping. One of the best Captains I’ve seen was similar (outwardly) to Kopitar. He led by example in much the same way as Kopi and was awesome in the room and on the bench. He was superb and definitely a leader. I’ve also seen the chest thumpers be absolute awful leaders behind the scenes, simply awful Captains that outwardly seemed like ‘leaders of men’. I think everyone jumps to conclusions when you can’t, without understanding the room dynamic.

It’s a collective leadership failure from what I see not a Kopitar one.

I also think Kopitar is playing how they developed him to play. I don’t think it’s a choice as such. That’s a separate discussion though.

He has captained his team to an 0-6 playoff series record in his tenure.

No players have developed to or beyond their potential under his lead.

Immediate success? None. A bleak future? Check. An irate fan base? In spades.

Again, name one thing - just one thing that suggests he was the right fit for a leadership role.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

He has captained his team to an 0-6 playoff series record in his tenure.

No players have developed to or beyond their potential under his lead.

Immediate success? None. A bleak future? Check. An irate fan base? In spades.

Again, name one thing - just one thing that suggests he was the right fit for a leadership role.

This smacks of so much ignorance, it's unreal.

0-6 playoff record in his tenure, it's the captain's fault? In what f***ing world is a 20 man team one guy's fault? 0-6 playoff record says absolutely f***all about any leadership abilities and it's asinine to insinuate they do.

No players have developed to their potential or beyond? Since when did Captain's become coaches.....I mean for f*** sake, but ok, let's take a look at that, Anderson, Laferriere, Fiala has developed into a more responsible player, Kempe, Iafallo, etc.

Irate fan base, that falls on the captain for sure, or is it the f***ing morons who know f***all about the game and presume to know the people involved in the game and have such bullshit standards when it comes to pro sports in general? Because we all know FANS are f***ing rational and logical right?

 

[Nasti]

He has captained his team to an 0-6 playoff series record in his tenure.

No players have developed to or beyond their potential under his lead.

Immediate success? None. A bleak future? Check. An irate fan base? In spades.

Again, name one thing - just one thing that suggests he was the right fit for a leadership role.

Oh come on. It’s not that bad. He 0-5. See, much better.

 

[FSL KINGS]

He has captained his team to an 0-6 playoff series record in his tenure.

No players have developed to or beyond their potential under his lead.

Immediate success? None. A bleak future? Check. An irate fan base? In spades.

Again, name one thing - just one thing that suggests he was the right fit for a leadership role.

Still can't believe Kopi stabbed Brown in the back & stole the C!!!

 

[DoktorJeep]

Oh come on. It’s not that bad. He 0-5. See, much better.

I think he was captain in the last playoffs loss to the Sharks.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Still can't believe Kopi stabbed Brown in the back & stole the C!!!

Unbelievable, right. One thing that’s a constant here - ridiculous amounts of disrespect toward the org we are supposed to be fans of. f***ing disgusting.

 

[Sol]

Still can't believe Kopi stabbed Brown in the back & stole the C!!!

They should get rid of Kopitar by any means necessary

 

[Sol]

Unbelievable, right. One thing that’s a constant here - ridiculous amounts of disrespect toward the org we are supposed to be fans of. f***ing disgusting.

I think you’re right. We should be disrespecting them more with the garbage product they’ve been rolling out.

 

[All The Kings Men]

Unbelievable, right. One thing that’s a constant here - ridiculous amounts of disrespect toward the org we are supposed to be fans of. f***ing disgusting.

I assumed that FSL knew that Kopitar didn't stab Brown in the back but maybe that's my fault for assuming....


So just to be clear... this has been discussed by multiple parties multiple times over multiple years and in nobody's version of the events does Kopitar come out looking villainous.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

I assumed that FSL knew that Kopitar didn't stab Brown in the back but maybe that's my fault for assuming....


So just to be clear... this has been discussed by multiple parties multiple times over multiple years and in nobody's version of the events does Kopitar come out looking villainous.

Except on this board, sorry to contradict you here.....revisionism runs amok here.