Low Effort GDT Lowest effort GDT - Sens in Vegas

[Alex1234]

Massive massive game against Colorado now. Every team chokes away a win here or there during the season. Every single team. The best teams shrug it off and forget about it quickly. Ottawa has let these type of games derail their season the past few years. They have to have a huge response against Colorado, come out hungrier than ever.

Yeah
Coming to Vegas and Colorado you expect to lose at least one
Would be disappointing to comeback from there with a .500 record so now they have to win in Denver
Massive game

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Thought Greig played well although I hate med his play before the 5th goal. Just take it to the corner and hold it. Instead he leans on the D and one hands the puck around to their other d

 

[SensFactor]

Still frustrated we didn't even get a point last night. Also sad that we dont have Stone anymore

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Still frustrated we didn't even get a point last night. Also sad that we dont have Stone anymore

Don’t care about stone. But yeah. A point last night would have been nice

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Watch Tkachuk and Stutzle on Roy's goal. Chabot rotates out high on Pietrangelo.. 3:11
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Roy skates right through Stutzle and Tkachuk 3:12

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3:13 Brady decides he should go help out at the blue line.. Stutzle follows the puck; Roy fills the hole

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3:14 Everybody is wondering where he came from and how he got left all alone

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Just poor awareness from Stutzle and Tkachuk ,,, and poor communication.

At least Brady back checks and plays defense now but damn, he needs to become a passable defensive player in the zone.

 

[Cosmix]

I’m interested but not interested. I know what I’ve seen 9 times out of 10. Empty net goals and game out of reach.
It’s not like you don’t have a chance to come back if you don’t pull the goalie. You’re just playing with fire when you do that. If you leave 5 guys out there and the goalie they’re still pushing like crazy out there. They’ll still get offensive end time.
So even if a team does comeback and win with the goalie out…you can’t prove that they wouldn’t have done it with the goalie in as well.

Imo it’s a dumb move. Way too risky for the very small advantage.

I find these articles interesting on pulling the goaltenders.

The math on pulling goaltenders - TSN.ca

Figuring out the best time to pull the goaltender is little more than understanding probability, Travis Yost writes

www.tsn.ca

The State of Goalie Pulling in the NHL

When people ask me how to get into sports analytics, I always suggest starting with a question that they’re interested in exploring and using that question as a framework for learning the domain kn…

hockey-graphs.com

One suggests puling the goaltender when there are 2.5 to 3 minutes left in the game when down by 1 goal.

 

[Cosmix]

Seeing Stone with the late game setup, i’m Glad he landed in Vegas and is the first face of hockey in the dessert he deserves a legacy like that, but so sad to see a player that special leave.

Whatever that quality Mark Stone has that makes him a winner, Ottawa needs to find out on their team who that man is going to be or how they get that magic on their side.

High Hockey IQ: e.g., predicting what other players with the puck will do and then positioning himself accordingly such as to take/intercept a pass or check that player. There are observable behaviours such as this which can be used to indicate a player's Hockey IQ. The current state of hockey analytics and video tracking systems is not advanced enough to do it automatically.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I find these articles interesting on pulling the goaltenders.

The math on pulling goaltenders - TSN.ca

Figuring out the best time to pull the goaltender is little more than understanding probability, Travis Yost writes

www.tsn.ca

The State of Goalie Pulling in the NHL

When people ask me how to get into sports analytics, I always suggest starting with a question that they’re interested in exploring and using that question as a framework for learning the domain kn…

hockey-graphs.com

One suggests puling the goaltender when there are 2.5 to 3 minutes left in the game when down by 1 goal.

yah those stats have been around for a while... I think most teams do it.... I would have liked to see us with possession in the ozone for the 1st pull.

 

[Micklebot]

Watch Tkachuk and Stutzle on Roy's goal. Chabot rotates out high on Pietrangelo.. 3:11
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Roy skates right through Stutzle and Tkachuk 3:12

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3:13 Brady decides he should go help out at the blue line.. Stutzle follows the puck; Roy fills the hole

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3:14 Everybody is wondering where he came from and how he got left all alone

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Just poor awareness from Stutzle and Tkachuk ,,, and poor communication.

The went over it in intermission, hopefully they'll go over the tapes and get them on the right page for next time.

 

[Cosmix]

yah those stats have been around for a while... I think most teams do it.... I would have liked to see us with possession in the ozone for the 1st pull.

Yes, pulling when the puck is in the O zone is far less risky than doing it when the puck is in the D or N zones.

I am not sure that "most teams do it". Some coaches rely on advanced stats to help make decisions like this, but I think there are still quite a few who don't (the eye-test ones who are "old school" Luddites). I think most teams do it when there is about 1 minute left with a face-off in the O zone; not many do it when there are 3 minutes left.

 

[Cosmix]

The went over it in intermission, hopefully they'll go over the tapes and get them on the right page for next time.

Tkachuk and Stutzle seemed to have a brain malfunction on that goal. As the C I think Stutzle should have dropped back to cover the player going to the front of the net but instead he goes to the player on the boards.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

The went over it in intermission, hopefully they'll go over the tapes and get them on the right page for next time.

I didn't follow along in the GDT during the game.. and I don't read through all afterwards so I missed it.