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[Kane One]

My pool team is in the finals! I f***ing spanked this guy today. His team has been sandbagging their ratings all season.

His rating is a 5 and I’m a 4, and before the match started he said I should he a 5 and I said “I know. I’ll be raised to start next season.” Then after I beat him, he said I should really he a six, and I said “and your 2 should be a 4.” And then he didn’t say anything.

f***ing sore loser lol

 

[Machinehead]

My pool team is in the finals! I f***ing spanked this guy today. His team has been sandbagging their ratings all season.

His rating is a 5 and I’m a 4, and before the match started he said I should he a 5 and I said “I know. I’ll be raised to start next season.” Then after I beat him, he said I should really he a six, and I said “and your 2 should be a 4.” And then he didn’t say anything.

f***ing sore loser lol

Hell yeah.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I’m laying in a strange woman’s bed while she’s in the bathroom and my first instinct is to check HFb. What’s wrong with me

 

[bernmeister]

I lost my job. For the absolute most BS reason I could ever imagine but I can't discuss it because I'm beginning litigation.

Anyway, if anyone knows a place with a need for an HR professional (senior level but I'd take mid given the circumstances) please let me know. I can only do remote or DC metro area.

sorry to hear
if I hear anything...

 

[eco's bones]

I lost my job. For the absolute most BS reason I could ever imagine but I can't discuss it because I'm beginning litigation.

Anyway, if anyone knows a place with a need for an HR professional (senior level but I'd take mid given the circumstances) please let me know. I can only do remote or DC metro area.

Sorry to hear that.

This particular year has been the worst in a long while for me and I imagine a lot of others but for some it's maybe a very good year. It's harder to keep perspective when things seem to snowball. The best sometimes is just to ride things out until they turn around to better.

Hopefully you find another job that for real can replace the one you lost. Hopefully as well you win your litigation.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I want you to know that we all have problems. I do not want any of you guys (or ladies) to feel alone in that. My social life is pretty lame today despite a lot of success in other areas. I would score it a C minus or a D. So that is my current problem but I do want to let you guys know that while financial problems can seem impossible in the short term you will bounce back. I consider myself very blessed financially now BUT I still remember the days of money stresses from decades ago. Once I had like 20 cents and I went to the store and bought biscuits. That was the most food I could find for 20 cents. Another time I was making homemade pizzas on tortillas with complimentary cheese packets and roasted pepper packets. When in school I would buy a dozen bagels for $3 and live off bagels and butter till my next pay check. Since then I had some very good luck but I also worked hard to put myself in a position that things could turn around. You all seem like good intelligent people. I have faith that good things will be coming your way as well in the future.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Sorry to hear that.

This particular year has been the worst in a long while for me and I imagine a lot of others but for some it's maybe a very good year. It's harder to keep perspective when things seem to snowball. The best sometimes is just to ride things out until they turn around to better.

Hopefully you find another job that for real can replace the one you lost. Hopefully as well you win your litigation.

You seem like a very fair person. I'm always a glass half full guy so my hope is since you said the "worst in a long while" that it can only get better from here. You have friends here if you ever need to vent.

 

[Bourque]

I’m laying in a strange woman’s bed while she’s in the bathroom and my first instinct is to check HFb. What’s wrong with me

Everything. Once I was playing the HF ATD and a guy posted his pick from jail. Idk about his priorities but he took the ATD seriously!

 

[Boris Zubov]

Everything. Once I was playing the HF ATD and a guy posted his pick from jail. Idk about his priorities but he took the ATD seriously!

ATD?

 

[Bourque]

ATD?

It's HF's Hockey All-Time Draft. Any NA or European player from history can be drafted. It used to be really good, but when McDavid was picked 16th after only 6 1/2 seasons and had never been to the WCF, I retired.

 

[Boris Zubov]

It's HF's Hockey All-Time Draft. Any NA or European player from history can be drafted. It used to be really good, but when McDavid was picked 16th after only 6 1/2 seasons and had never been to the WCF, I retired.

Do you have a link to the thread?

 

[Bourque]

Do you have a link to the thread?

Yes, it's a whole forum. All Time Draft

 

[LokiDog]

I want you to know that we all have problems. I do not want any of you guys (or ladies) to feel alone in that. My social life is pretty lame today despite a lot of success in other areas. I would score it a C minus or a D. So that is my current problem but I do want to let you guys know that while financial problems can seem impossible in the short term you will bounce back. I consider myself very blessed financially now BUT I still remember the days of money stresses from decades ago. Once I had like 20 cents and I went to the store and bought biscuits. That was the most food I could find for 20 cents. Another time I was making homemade pizzas on tortillas with complimentary cheese packets and roasted pepper packets. When in school I would buy a dozen bagels for $3 and live off bagels and butter till my next pay check. Since then I had some very good luck but I also worked hard to put myself in a position that things could turn around. You all seem like good intelligent people. I have faith that good things will be coming your way as well in the future.

I’m at odds with the world we currently live in. We’re so far displaced from the natural order. The 9-5 (+) work week has existed for like 1% of human history. The need for dual incomes is even newer. The discrepancy between income and housing affordability has never been larger, despite homes being built cheaper and easier and faster than ever. A lot of people will point to things like modern medicine and comforts but I like working with my hands and my back under the sun, I like growing my own food and knowing what’s in it. And it isn’t about working “less” than a 9-5. It’s owning your time. Not being tethered to a desk. Reaping the fruit of your own labor. And yeah, I’d rather honestly be a serf than a debt slave in a cubicle paying my landlord every disposable cent I earn. Likewise, I use social media because it exists but I swear to you I could go the rest of my life without it or TV. I want to live simply and it isn’t possible. I feel deeply, deeply unhappy beneath all of the things I know I am blessed with. It’s a melancholy of the soul because I KNOW that this isn’t the life we were meant to live.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I’m at odds with the world we currently live in. We’re so far displaced from the natural order. The 9-5 (+) work week has existed for like 1% of human history. The need for dual incomes is even newer. The discrepancy between income and housing affordability has never been larger, despite homes being built cheaper and easier and faster than ever. A lot of people will point to things like modern medicine and comforts but I like working with my hands and my back under the sun, I like growing my own food and knowing what’s in it. And it isn’t about working “less” than a 9-5. It’s owning your time. Not being tethered to a desk. Reaping the fruit of your own labor. And yeah, I’d rather honestly be a serf than a debt slave in a cubicle paying my landlord every disposable cent I earn. Likewise, I use social media because it exists but I swear to you I could go the rest of my life without it or TV. I want to live simply and it isn’t possible. I feel deeply, deeply unhappy beneath all of the things I know I am blessed with. It’s a melancholy of the soul because I KNOW that this isn’t the life we were meant to live.

A lot of people are disappointed with todays world but we have had issues for 200 plus years as a country.

I used to grow my own tomatoes, potatoes and cucumbers in pots. Is there anything stopping you from doing it?

I think homes are being built in a more efficient way but the parts and labor may be the most expensive ever and that shows up in home insurance premiums. Still there are affordable starter homes in some areas of the country. My first house was only $130k and today it goes for around $290k. Not far down the road you can get a new home in the low $200's. I like land so I'm hoping to find a few acres and put a lesser expensive house on it.

Loki it takes courage to say you are unhappy but one thing I have always told myself is nobody else is in control of my life. If I'm unhappy with something in my life I try to change it. I'm not thrilled with where I'm living now so I'm looking to move to a more rural area. Now politics and stuff like that is beyond our individual control but I do think we have control of other things. After my dad's death I got as high as 218 pounds. Nobody to blame but myself. In the last 2 years I have worked on that to the point that I'm at high school weight now.

I know you have had some tough times but you have a fiancé. You have a kid and another on the way. I have some material things but I do not have the really valuable things that you have.

 

[Boris Zubov]

I’m at odds with the world we currently live in. We’re so far displaced from the natural order. The 9-5 (+) work week has existed for like 1% of human history. The need for dual incomes is even newer. The discrepancy between income and housing affordability has never been larger, despite homes being built cheaper and easier and faster than ever. A lot of people will point to things like modern medicine and comforts but I like working with my hands and my back under the sun, I like growing my own food and knowing what’s in it. And it isn’t about working “less” than a 9-5. It’s owning your time. Not being tethered to a desk. Reaping the fruit of your own labor. And yeah, I’d rather honestly be a serf than a debt slave in a cubicle paying my landlord every disposable cent I earn. Likewise, I use social media because it exists but I swear to you I could go the rest of my life without it or TV. I want to live simply and it isn’t possible. I feel deeply, deeply unhappy beneath all of the things I know I am blessed with. It’s a melancholy of the soul because I KNOW that this isn’t the life we were meant to live.

We've discussed this one on one, but there's many of us that feel this way. It can be a lonely, isolating way to go through life, but I truly believe there are many more like us & even more who are awakening to these ideals.

 

[Bourque]

... I know you have had some tough times, but you have a fiancé. You have a kid and another on the way. I have some material things, but I do not have the really valuable things that you have.

No one can take away being a biological father. My question is whether LK can financially support his kids and ex-wife and keep his fiancé. idk

 

[NickyFotiu]

No one can take away being a biological father. My question is whether LK can financially support his kids and ex-wife and keep his fiancé. idk

He is a smart guy in good physical shape so he can do it imo.

 

[Machinehead]

I’m at odds with the world we currently live in. We’re so far displaced from the natural order. The 9-5 (+) work week has existed for like 1% of human history. The need for dual incomes is even newer. The discrepancy between income and housing affordability has never been larger, despite homes being built cheaper and easier and faster than ever. A lot of people will point to things like modern medicine and comforts but I like working with my hands and my back under the sun, I like growing my own food and knowing what’s in it. And it isn’t about working “less” than a 9-5. It’s owning your time. Not being tethered to a desk. Reaping the fruit of your own labor. And yeah, I’d rather honestly be a serf than a debt slave in a cubicle paying my landlord every disposable cent I earn. Likewise, I use social media because it exists but I swear to you I could go the rest of my life without it or TV. I want to live simply and it isn’t possible. I feel deeply, deeply unhappy beneath all of the things I know I am blessed with. It’s a melancholy of the soul because I KNOW that this isn’t the life we were meant to live.

Yeah, it's really tough, and I'm sorry you're feeling sad.

You should find something that makes you happy. Let us know what it is. I promise not to shit on it completely unprovoked because I'm feeling sad about my own situation. That would be a shitty thing to do, so I wouldn't do that.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Yeah, it's really tough, and I'm sorry you're feeling sad.

You should find something that makes you happy. Let us know what it is. I promise not to shit on it completely unprovoked because I'm feeling sad about my own situation. That would be a shitty thing to do, so I wouldn't do that.

Takes courage for any of you to speak up. I always held everything in. I'm glad you guys don't.

 

[Takeahnase]

Logically the world is a million times better. Even having all of your children survive to adulthood was a rarety 150 years ago. Objectively things are so much better. I mean I can’t even imagine a world without a microwave oven. We take it forgranted.

But the spirit or soul needs more than logic. So I get the same feelings. I have always said I got more of a feeling of success from mowing the lawn than I ever got in neverendimg projects at work. You put in a few hours of labor and there is a tangible result - the grass is shorter. Cause and effect. A man’s spirit and soul needs affirmation in their labor. Money, no matter how large, does not feed that innate need. It’s too abstract.

Our ancestors went out every day and hunted, fished, and farmed. Tangible results if you were successful, nothing abstract.

I am sure surgeons and farmers get that, and the labor is mega difficult, but the rest of us weren’t meant to be managing effing spreadsheets day after day in front of a lifeless computer.

Just know yer not alone and try to have things in your life outside of work that fill your soul.

I need to get back to some of the things I used to do that was good for that. Archery, fishing, hiking, etc. I saw this dude while I was on vacation last week wading in the lake bow fishing. Dude looked happy as hell and I wanted to take up bowfishimg like 7 years ago. But I had too many spreadsheets to deliver and put it off. That’s on me.

 

[LokiDog]

Things aren’t bad - that was really more of a lifelong rumination that I just felt like sharing earlier; even when I first joined the military I specifically sought out the survival specialist role to spend most of my time in the wilderness learning to create crude shelters and live on the land. I’ve just felt out of place in history my entire life. Even when gainfully employed and doing well, I’m deeply melancholy about the nature of what “work” today is. Making money for someone else. Selling meaningless consumer goods.

Regarding @NickyFotiu ‘s comments on growing potted tomatoes and stuff, of course I can do things like that. But I want to do it at scale, have my own chickens for eggs and for poultry, maybe a couple of goats for milk, make fresh sourdough. I also hate that it’s very hard for us to control what type of hormones and antibiotics and GMOs go into our meat and the food we buy commercially. It’s a joint feeling of “I never gave consent for these chemicals to be in my food” and wanting the purpose that comes from creating your own food supply.

Regarding @Machinehead ‘s comments about finding something you love and not shitting on it; poorly veiled sour grapes about my WNBA comments, but water under the bridge. This isn’t about finding something to enjoy or needing a hobby.

This is about deeper purpose. There is, of course, great purpose in family and raising children, but as the provider in the family, you also spend ~50 hours a week at work and 10 commuting and that’s over half your waking hours. I’d like there to be some more meaning in those hours as well, for me. It was the same when I joined the military. Not only did I choose the wilderness job, but I didn’t join for the reasons most do. I didn’t need free education, I already had my bachelors. I didn’t need travel opportunities, I’d been to several countries and grown up privileged. I joined because I wanted purpose.

It’s one of the things I struggle with a lot as a veteran and it’s my own personal demon to face. It’s hard to go from ~10 years of active duty and a sense of pride and purpose daily to trying to find identity and purpose in a desk job in front of a computer.

Regarding @Bourque ‘s comments about keeping my fiancé. I don’t pay my ex support. I pay child support for my son, and I am fighting for full custody. As much as an a-hole as I can be, he’s set up for a far happier life with me, in a loving household with siblings than he is with her, and my fiancé and I are more than fine. And will be fine. I can bring in side money at this point while out of work and the job hunt isn’t even going poorly. If I just wanted to replace, at least, 80% of my previous income and take anything I’d already have a job. I’m trying to not be miserable and purposeless again in my next job and since I can generate some side income, I’m not rushing. That’s a sign things are far better than they used to be.

@Takeahnase I think you get it sir. Kudos.

 

[Bourque]

1. Logically the world is a million times better. Even having all of your children survive to adulthood was a rarity 150 years ago. Objectively things are so much better. I mean I can’t even imagine a world without a microwave oven. We take it for granted.

2. But the spirit or soul needs more than logic. So, I get the same feelings. I have always said I got more of a feeling of success from mowing the lawn than I ever got in never-ending projects at work. ...

3. I need to get back to some of the things I used to do that was good for that. Archery, fishing, hiking, etc. I saw this dude while I was on vacation last week wading in the lake bow fishing. Dude looked happy as hell and I wanted to take up bowfishing like 7 years ago. But I had too many spreadsheets to deliver and put it off. That’s on me.

Good shit, Maynard. Paragraph 1: Agreed. The icemaker being empty is a hardship.

Paragraph 2: Agreed. idk why I put off mowing because I enjoy it so much.

Paragraph 3: Agreed. Since I was a kid I've loved art, books, history, illustrated books whether they were about how the pyramids or cathedrals were built to GNs. I love editing, proofreading, reading, researching, teaching, and writing. I've always loved music. I need the constant mental stimulation of areas such as business, buying and selling, gaming, and Wall St. I need to do these tasks every day to be happy. I'm a friendly, high energy, outgoing person who can't be chained to a desk.

I knew these ideas about myself in 1995 when I was 33 years old. I got married in 1996 and got health insurance. The internet was out, and I decided to start businesses doing all these tasks. My wife has been my only boss since. I've never spent $ on myself but when I got married my wife had an AD and now has a PhD. My son only went to expensive private schools until college. I drive a 20-year-old Camry, but it's got a V6 and a JBL 6 CD changer so I'm good. Now I won't retire with $2M but they both have good jobs so I'm happy.

 

[Machinehead]

Regarding @Machinehead ‘s comments about finding something you love and not shitting on it; poorly veiled sour grapes about my WNBA comments, but water under the bridge. This isn’t about finding something to enjoy or needing a hobby.

It wasn't meant to be veiled. It was a shitty f***ing comment that you made.

This isn't even the basketball thread, and I wasn't even participating. I was tagged. I was summoned to this thread to be attacked by somebody and you decided to join in.

People don't have to like my takes on hockey, because that's what the forum is for. I've very passionately disagreed with people's opinions. In 14 years, I have never told anybody on here that their interests suck.

You go through things, like we all do, I understand that, but sometimes you take it out on other people.

I understand I can be a bit much sometimes. I did nothing. My last post in this thread before last night was I don't know when. I was tagged out of f***ing nowhere so somebody could tell me my team is cringe, and you thought that was worth doubling down on.

We don't treat people like that here.

 

[LokiDog]

It wasn't meant to be veiled. It was a shitty f***ing comment that you made.

This isn't even the basketball thread, and I wasn't even participating. I was tagged. I was summoned to this thread to be attacked by somebody and you decided to join in.

People don't have to like my takes on hockey, because that's what the forum is for. I've very passionately disagreed with people's opinions. In 14 years, I have never told anybody on here that their interests suck.

You go through things, like we all do, I understand that, but sometimes you take it out on other people.

I understand I can be a bit much sometimes. I did nothing. My last post in this thread before last night was I don't know when. I was tagged out of f***ing nowhere so somebody could tell me my team is cringe, and you thought that was worth doubling down on.

We don't treat people like that here.

It wasn’t a comment about you - it was exactly how I feel about the WNBA and the fact that you like it is utterly irrelevant. You hate NHL players that I love and have no problem talking shit about them. You don’t need to spare us your opinion of players because other people like them; I don’t need to withhold my opinion on the WNBA just because you’re a fan of it. Feel free to disagree. It’s still exactly how I feel about the league and Reese and there’s no reason that I would change my opinion because someone I know feels differently. I didn’t decide to dislike it to hurt you. I can’t stand her, and I think the quality of play in the league is laughable. That’s not an attack on machinehead. Someone may have made it about you by tagging you, but I just responded with my own feelings on the sport. Take issue with whoever tagged you. I don’t even remember the post. I just clicked into a thread I post in regularly and saw mention of WNBA and expressed my feelings.

 

[Machinehead]

It wasn’t a comment about you - it was exactly how I feel about the WNBA and the fact that you like it is utterly irrelevant. You hate NHL players that I love and have no problem talking shit about them. You don’t need to spare us your opinion of players because other people like them; I don’t need to withhold my opinion on the WNBA just because you’re a fan of it. Feel free to disagree. It’s still exactly how I feel about the league and Reese and there’s no reason that I would change my opinion because someone I know feels differently. I didn’t decide to dislike it to hurt you. I can’t stand her, and I think the quality of play in the league is laughable. That’s not an attack on machinehead.

It is an attack on me when it was brought up out of nowhere and I was tagged.

You can think what you want and you can be a room temperature IQ prick as much as you want. You're amazing at that.

But since the admins won't do anything about you, it would be nice if you could at least not endorse it when posters attack me. Thanks.