I think they've looked very mediocre,the Krejci line is averaging about 4.5 shots on net ES per game with Loui. Hopefully,Claude simply sticks with it. I'm reluctant to throw any blame at Pastrnak (underperforming as a 1st liner in his second year) or Koko,but there is that.
Player Discussion Loui Eriksson II
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I think they've looked very mediocre,the Krejci line is averaging about 4.5 shots on net ES per game with Loui. Hopefully,Claude simply sticks with it. I'm reluctant to throw any blame at Pastrnak (underperforming as a 1st liner in his second year) or Koko,but there is that.
Jean_Jacket41
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Sweeney will either extend him or trade him before the deadline.
I like Loui and wouldn't mind if he signs an extension but I would look hard to the market at the deadline. Vermette got a 1st and a prospect last year. Loui is much better. Contenders will line up to get him.
That way, you get assets back and with the 6M that is likely needed to extend him, you can go shoping next UFA.
Loui at 6M or a 1st+prospect+UFA signing at 6M? I choose the later.
I like Loui and wouldn't mind if he signs an extension but I would look hard to the market at the deadline. Vermette got a 1st and a prospect last year. Loui is much better. Contenders will line up to get him.
That way, you get assets back and with the 6M that is likely needed to extend him, you can go shoping next UFA.
Loui at 6M or a 1st+prospect+UFA signing at 6M? I choose the later.
what if Loui is by far the best UFA? if all we had to go by were the out of town highlights we'd probably be begging for the Bruins to sign this "perfect Julien style Bruin". if we then watched more of his game and saw how he consistently appears to be among the best 2 or 3 skaters every night and we'd probably be telling the Don to go for 5 @ 7.
i'd have to see the list of upcoming UFAs and see if there was a franchise D in that group.
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As a Loui supporter, I agree. I think a teM like Dallas would love to add Loui. Maybe one of those young Dallas dmen would be on the table (Oleksiak?)
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Exactly. They need to decide way before the deadline or they will get screwed again with another player. Decide if you want him, then if you can afford him, and then if he wants to make a deal. If they wait to long, they will loose value.
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Could 1 problem be the RW situation?
Yes.
Lou&Krejci have been our best players this season and you manage to make it sound like they've been bad.
No to that, the 1st is a late one and would kill the value of the prospect, if Lou goes I want their top prospect, we need top talent and players who can make us better/contenders.
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I would think the Stars #8 D that can't get sent down would be on the table, yes. I wouldn't take back one of Dallas' prospects as the main part of a deal unless it was Honka, though. Maybe Ritchie, but he has been invisible at way too many Texas Stars games to the point where I'd rather let the Boston scouting staff make a late 1st round pick instead of having Ritchie as the main part coming back.
There will be a boatload of options if the Bruins have cap space and three first round picks to work with.
If you can get Eriksson at reasonable price that doesn't take him too far past his prime (2-4 years). Go for it. If you're going to have to overpay in terms of UFA dollars and UFA years... Grab the picks and make your moves in late June/early July.
i would demand 2 1st rounders for Loui. Jagr got 1, right?
Eriksson will produce wherever he goes, even though he is perfectly suited to this system. he's smart enough, and healthy enough now, to do whatever any team asks him to do and to do it at a nearly elite level.
Eriksson will produce wherever he goes, even though he is perfectly suited to this system. he's smart enough, and healthy enough now, to do whatever any team asks him to do and to do it at a nearly elite level.
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This thread brings back shiver-inducing memories of Chiarelli's annual "prices are high" press conferences around and after the trade deadline.
Realistically we are now on the other side of that problem. We don't have a contending team so we have the ability to sell a player for a king's ransom. Loui can definitely fetch us the high return we wouldn't want to give away to get someone like Loui. I would like someone like Anthony Deangelo out of Tampa. RD with high potential, and a couple years from draft so they are closer to the NHL.
I don't think we could pry Deangelo from Tampa but maybe we have something they want, I don't know too many other teams prospects though to comment.
If not for the PP scoring at a ridiculous and unsustainable rate,this team might be 3-9. ES production is a problem and it starts with the first line.
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Simple question, who have been our best forwards/players this year,
Lou and Krejci are quite high on that list yes or no?
But again you make it sound like they've been bad which is something I really can't understand, I guess this is you preparing for Lou trade proposals.
RW side needs to be sorted, Lou&Krejci have been great in both ends, the last 5 games the 1st line has looked to be Lou-Krejci+1 to carry.
Maybe Vatrano would fit, gives them a pure shooter.
Also what I'm seeing again is overplaying Kevan&McQuaid is hurting our offense, they can't support offense, D zone exits take too long especially with McQuaid and in the offensive zone they just throw the puck away without purpose, also Chara's D-zone exit troubles are hurting our 5on5 offense.
This was one of my offseason fears and it's looking to be true.
I think Loui has been playing great but getting less production ES than I would like. When a first line has 4.5 shots a night ES,that line is regularly not creating enough chances and the team will suffer. I think Krejci has had some very mediocre ES play the last 3 games,not skating like he did earlier. Anyone who follows this thread knows I was Loui's biggest booster for 2 years and that hasn't changed,but I'm hoping that he and Krejci can up their ES production together in the next 6 weeks.
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Yeah, ******/struggling D drives possession into the ground. They've had to defend or forecheck far more than optimal, but done a great job doing so. They've looked much better in the offensive zone than stats show, just need to get shots off and preferably into the net. And they've barely played together before, let alone along with either Pasta or Koko. Takes some time gelling. As PP inevitably gets less effective, I fully expect both top lines to produce much more ES to make up for it. They might not all be PPG+, but they'll do fine. Fourth line starting to produce more would be appreciated as well. Not to mention PK getting going.
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Last year,the forwards had to play deeper to compensate for the lousy control skills of the defense. This year I don't see that as much,I see more neutral zone play and ineffective offensive zone play. Decent offensive zone time (not great) consumed with board work and pressure,resulting in very little. I'm sure the RW is an issue as well as the newness of the combos,I'm just pointing out the 6 game reality,they've been mediocre.
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Bottom6 from Beleskey-Hayes-Spoons-Kemps-Koko-Randell/Rinaldo and we should start to score.
I'm talking about D-zone exits and how we do them, Chara-McQuaid had a great example last night, Chara iced the puck and then with the 4th try they got the puck out.
It's important to go with speed and surprise opponents, that's not what you see by those stats.
Right now they are ready for our attack and our zone time is not that dangerous because of that, also like I said 3 out of our 4 top D's are bad with the puck so they can't create anything dangerous in the offensive zone, you know when McQuaid/Kevan has the puck that nothing is going to happen.
Also the 1st line right now is Lou-Krejci-someone to carry, Pasta has been injured and Koko is not a 1st line winger, but when you look at Lou&Krejci you notice they are playing well.
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Jean_Jacket41
Neely = HOF
Then pay more to get a better player than Loui. And you got a 1st+prospect back from Loui.
That is great asset management and the route the Bruins should go.
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We should really forget that 1st, we need top talent, elite potential to fight against Buffalo, Tampa and Florida in the future, look at their young talent and how will we fight against them.
That 1st kills the prospect value and that 1st is a late one.
Jean_Jacket41
Neely = HOF
That 1st give you 3 firsts. Either to use, move up or trade this summer in a hockey trade.
Either way, it could also be a top prospect or anything else of value. Loui would be welcomed by any contender with his all around play and low salary. If Sweeney doesn't extend him, we should expect a very good return at the latest on deadline day.
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There is if the player you sign as a UFA, after dealing Loui for a pick and prospect at the deadline, is Loui himself.
Deal him for assets at the deadline then sign him on July 1st.
Jean_Jacket41
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That would also work.
In fact, that was exactly what happened with Vermette last year. Arizona got a 1st and a prospect and signed Vermette back as UFA.
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But if you could get a top prospect who is more developed wouldn't you take it over late 1st+ok prospect?
A prospect we know more about(less risky).
I would.
I want us to be aggressive at the draft and anyway move as high as we can, like I sad we need top talent our division will be damm strong in a few years and we need to fight back.
But there are no quarantees that we can move up at the draft or try to move up at the draft, our prospect pool is deep with the depth everywhere but it's lacking that one thing.
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