Lost human cilvilizations?

[tarheelhockey]

Unbelievable that such a thing would just be flooded away on purpose.

 

[Stylizer1]

Unbelievable that such a thing would just be flooded away on purpose.

This has happened many times over thousands of years. More recently in order to create dams in various parts of the worlds valleys (where people lived because the ground was very fertile) needed to be flooded. As the ice from the ice ages melted so many civilizations where probably washed away too. It's too bad not enough efort is made to search the coastline but the cost would be enormous.

An Ancient Valley Lost to ‘Progress’ (Published 2020)

In his push for economic development, Turkey’s president has flooded the archaeological gem of Hasankeyf and displaced thousands of families.

www.nytimes.com

Zakhiku: The ancient city in Iraq revealed by severe drought

The ruins of a submerged city on the Tigris River that emerged this year belonged to a little-known empire.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Stylizer1]

It has been theorised that the ancient builders of the pyramids used sound the cut/move the blocks. Stones that resonate like this could help explain that theory.

 

[Stylizer1]

MSN

 

[tarheelhockey]

MSN

Welp, looks like a good day to start smoking cigarettes.

 

[JMCx4]

Welp, looks like a good day to start smoking cigarettes.

Might wanna start a few weeks earlier, so you don't miss your approaching doom during a coughing fit.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Might wanna start a few weeks earlier, so you don't miss your approaching doom during a coughing fit.

Oh, I mean go ahead and start now. No sense planning past the next decade or two.

 

[Stylizer1]

Oh, I mean go ahead and start now. No sense planning past the next decade or two.

I don't think that would be an extinction event. I saw a graph where they estimate it would hit along a line reaching from the Philippines across the Pacific, all the way to new york. If it hit the water near Asia it would probably send a massive Tsunami that would hit the west coast of North and South America.



Graham Hancock and Randal Carlson theorize multiple impacts hit the North American Ice Sheet causing a rapid welt as opposed to a gradual one put forth by modern scientists. Had a 90 meter in diameter asteroid hit the ice that could have cause much of the damage they are talking about.

Cool as hell.

 

[Hippasus]

I don't think that would be an extinction event. I saw a graph where they estimate it would hit along a line reaching from the Philippines across the Pacific, all the way to new york. If it hit the water near Asia it would probably send a massive Tsunami that would hit the west coast of North and South America.



Graham Hancock and Randal Carlson theorize multiple impacts hit the North American Ice Sheet causing a rapid welt as opposed to a gradual one put forth by modern scientists. Had a 90 meter in diameter asteroid hit the ice that could have cause much of the damage they are talking about.

Cool as hell.

If it hits water, hopefully some surfer dude with a smartphone tapes it and posts it on Twitter.

 

[Stylizer1]

Bolide Events 1994-2013
This diagram maps the data gathered from 1994-2013 on small asteroids impacting Earth’s atmosphere to create very bright meteors, technically called “bolides” and commonly referred to as “fireballs”. Sizes of red dots (daytime impacts) and blue dots (nighttime impacts) are proportional to the optical radiated energy of impacts measured in billions of Joules (GJ) of energy, and show the location of impacts from objects about 1 meter (3 feet) to almost 20 meters (60 feet) in size.
Image credit: Planetary Science

 

[JMCx4]

Hmmmmm, we seem to have deviated from the thread topic (he says with no sense of irony ...).

 

[Stylizer1]

Hmmmmm, we seem to have deviated from the thread topic (he says with no sense of irony ...).

Part of the story behind lost civilizations is where did they go. One of the theories is that meteors wiped them out. I post info pertaining to how likely meteor strikes are and the type of damage the can produce. We travel through the taurid meteor stream twice a year. It mostly results in shooting stars but there is a chance that this is where larger meteors came from that caused extreme devastation when they came into our atmosphere,

 

[Stylizer1]

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Shouldn't this thread be in the entertainment sub-forum?

 

[JMCx4]

Shouldn't this thread be in the entertainment sub-forum?

It's "Science Adjacent" ...

 

[Beau Knows]

Watched a bit of Hancock's netflix show, man is it ever bad.

I'm pretty sure most scientists with the evidence on their side don't spend their time making a tv show where they constantly whine about how much "the scientific community hates me" and "why won't they take me seriously?".

 

[tacogeoff]

Shouldn't this thread be in the entertainment sub-forum?

"To err is human, which is really not a very good excuse.

And to err as a scientist is worse, of course, because depending on science is supposed to be the best way for people to make sure they’re right. But since scientists are human (most of them, anyway), even science is never free from error. In fact, mistakes are fairly common in science, and most scientists tell you they wouldn’t have it any other way. That’s because making mistakes is often the best path to progress."

and I would say the interpretation/understanding of history falls into the same boat.

 

[JMCx4]

"To err is human, which is really not a very good excuse.

And to err as a scientist is worse, of course, because depending on science is supposed to be the best way for people to make sure they’re right. But since scientists are human (most of them, anyway), even science is never free from error. In fact, mistakes are fairly common in science, and most scientists tell you they wouldn’t have it any other way. That’s because making mistakes is often the best path to progress." ...

Seems that long quote should have been attributed to Tom Siegfried. Unless you're him, in which case ... thanks.

 

[tacogeoff]

oh sorry. i thought the " ...... " would have indicated it was a quote.

 

[tarheelhockey]

"To err is human, which is really not a very good excuse.

And to err as a scientist is worse, of course, because depending on science is supposed to be the best way for people to make sure they’re right. But since scientists are human (most of them, anyway), even science is never free from error. In fact, mistakes are fairly common in science, and most scientists tell you they wouldn’t have it any other way. That’s because making mistakes is often the best path to progress."

and I would say the interpretation/understanding of history falls into the same boat.

This is of course quite true. Our understanding of history is continually being revised in light of new discovery, which is the way it should be. Even just in the past few years, we have come to new understandings about the world's most carefully-studied places like Stonehenge and Pompeii. Let alone the kinds of things people stumble across in the desert or jungle, unknown for centuries. Discovery leads to correction... that's science.

I think the comment about the entertainment subforum was directed more toward the "speculative history" aspects of this thread, and perhaps specifically toward the Allan Savory video above where he basically says peer review is incompatible with scientific advancement. One cannot claim to have a desire to improve science while being contemptuous of the fundamentals of scientific thought.

 

[JMCx4]

oh sorry. i thought the " ...... " would have indicated it was a quote.

The quotation marks made me curious who authored them. At least you weren't quoting some guy who sat next to you on the crosstown bus. Sources are important to credibility as well as context.

 

[Stylizer1]

This is of course quite true. Our understanding of history is continually being revised in light of new discovery, which is the way it should be. Even just in the past few years, we have come to new understandings about the world's most carefully-studied places like Stonehenge and Pompeii. Let alone the kinds of things people stumble across in the desert or jungle, unknown for centuries. Discovery leads to correction... that's science.

I think the comment about the entertainment subforum was directed more toward the "speculative history" aspects of this thread, and perhaps specifically toward the Allan Savory video above where he basically says peer review is incompatible with scientific advancement. One cannot claim to have a desire to improve science while being contemptuous of the fundamentals of scientific thought.

The comment was directed at me because he is a troll who lacks imagination.

 

[Stylizer1]

Planet killer asteroid 'the size of Mount Everest' to skim past Earth tomorrow​

Buckle up, because a mountain-sized ‘planet killer’ asteroid will fly past Earth on Thursday – quickly followed by another that was only spotted a few weeks ago.

The big one, the catchily-named 2011 asteroid (415029) 2011 UL21, is a monstrous 2,310 metres wide, bigger than 99% of all other known near-Earth objects (NEOs) and bigger than any mountain in the UK.


You might hear it is similar in size to Mount Everest, but given the world’s tallest peak is almost nine kilometres high, this generous comparison appears to be in reference to the width of the summit.

And while it is big enough to fall into the ‘planet killer’ category, it is only a fraction of the size of the Chicxulub asteroid thought to have wiped out the dinosaurs, estimated at around 10 kilometres, or six miles, wide.

Unlike most other NEOs, it isn’t orbiting the Sun on a similar plane to the planets, but instead is at a steep angle – possibly due to the effects of Jupiter’s massive gravitational effects. As noted by the European Space Agency (ESA), Jupiter has been known to knock previously-safe asteroids towards Earth.

MSN

 

[Jovavic]

Sounds like Jupiter is an asshole, stop throwing rocks at us!

 

[Stylizer1]

Sounds like Jupiter is an asshole, stop throwing rocks at us!

Jupiter is also the reason more don't come directly at us. Dammed if you do dammed if you don't.