London Knights 2024 - 25 Season Thread, Part VII

[LDN]

Dive by Senneke on the Wooley "roughing" penalty

Sennecke is a massive diver. He’s no Zayne Parekh, but still

 

[LDN]

Even as a Generals fan, I know this series is far from over and can still go either way. I do expect a close series, and it won't be over until one of the two teams wins four games.

Mature of you. With that being said if London loses this they would be one of the biggest underachievers in recent memory.

 

[EvenSteven]

I did not say you did, just thats all the TSN crew were saying last night how well-disaplined team the London Knights are. Frankie C at one point even said the Oshawa Generals probably will not see the powerplay 8 more times for the rest of the series stating that London is this team that never goes short-handed.

TSN displaying their unfamiliarity with the league.

 

[Altek]

Sennecke is a massive diver. He’s no Zayne Parekh, but still

I am by far NOT a Sennecke fan, watching him game in and game out, he can be VERY frustrating to watch.

But this is the first time I have ever heard of another team's fans call him a diver.

If this "dive" was on the Wolley Penalty, the TSN crew said the penalty was assessed at the end when both players are sliding into the boards, and refs felt Wolley pushes Senneckes' head into the boards (I did not see it like that, I thought it was not a penalty). Anyway, the penalty was not called because of the "dive."

 

[Altek]

Mature of you. With that being said if London loses this they would be one of the biggest underachievers in recent memory.

That is surprising, because I feel Oshawa is much stronger than the 2023 Petes that beat you in the Final. I would have thought losing that series would be a bigger under achievement.

 

[Matt93]

How is nobody commenting on how the Knights are sore losers by putting the Boulton line out at the end of the game.....carry on.

 

[Altek]

Knights fans, I want to ask you why some of your fans are putting up a big stink that all of our goals were on the powerplay (correction, one was in the empty net). Do power-play goals not count? Is it our fault that your goalie let in a weak goal on the power play (Gibson's second)? One of your goals was on the powerplay, too, so what? Just move on to game 2 series is very young.

 

[Otto]

Knights fans, I want to ask you why some of your fans are putting up a big stink that all of our goals were on the powerplay (correction, one was in the empty net). Do power-play goals not count? Is it our fault that your goalie let in a weak goal on the power play (Gibson's second)? One of your goals was on the powerplay, too, so what? Just move on to game 2 series is very young.

I haven't seen anyone here put up a "big stink" about that

 

[Altek]

Not here on HF Boards but take a look at X aka Twitter

I do find the Knights fans more educated and knowledgeable on here than on Twitter

 

[Ken Yates]

Read deserves more ice time. Set up the first goal and was all over the puck (his few shifts)

 

[Fastpace]

I do not understand this narrative that London is a well-disciplined team and that last night's penalty call difference was so out of the ordinary. London had more PIM than Oshawa in the regular season, more PIM than Oshawa in the playoffs (in fewer games played), and more PIM than Oshawa in Game 1. To me, the London Knights are not a well-disciplined team based on these numbers, and this is something they need to be aware of, as well as not having TSN spew this narrative that they are.

Wouldn't you agree, the likely chance to get a call against your opponent is by moving your feet?
Between the two teams, when 5 on 5, which of the two teams has the fastest execution on skates?

Not many here argue, other than Sim getting called for eating an opponent's stick, Cowan getting help to ride the goalie resulting of a goal nullified, or maybe a soft call with 3 minutes left in the game on Montgomery. Those were questionable calls!

What is in question is all other calls against Oshawa that were so obvious, that went uncalled. Ex. O'Reilly having to jump high over an opponent's stick rotating like a grass cutting blade, 15 feet away from the refs looking at him, no call on the tripping. It is not just in this game, it has been going on for two years, the fans in London have been fortunate to have great teams, but these parity adjustment calls by referees are getting too obvious. The fans who have been patience, are starting to show a frustration that was not a regularity here for many years, it is starting to boil over. It is the Knights who are getting calls for moving their feet, against the norms.

 

[Otto]

Not here on HF Boards but take a look at X aka Twitter

I do find the Knights fans more educated and knowledgeable on here than on Twitter

Or... instead of bringing those arguments here, why don't you ask your question on those platforms.

 

[Altek]

It was a simple question because I respect the fans on this board and their opinion more than on other platforms, no need to be so aggressive.

 

[Otto]

It was a simple question because I respect the fans on this board and their opinion more than on other platforms, no need to be so aggressive.

But how can we have an opinion on something none of us said?

Don't call me "harsh"

You posted "just move on" .. your post came across as blaming the fans here for what you read elsewhere.

 

[Altek]

Asking if there is something I am missing, like is there some sort of background to these statements that I am not aware of.

If I asked that question on the other platform, I would just get troll answers and be called names like one London Knight fan insaulted me last night for being a "dumb Pejorative Slured lesbian" last night on one of those platforms and tried to shame me that I am gay.

We have a 35% PP in the playoffs, and we scored on 33% of the Powerplays last night, so I don't know what the deal is that 3 of our goals were on the powerplay.

 

[Altek]

But how can we have an opinion on something none of us said?

Don't call me "harsh"

You posted "just move on" .. your post came across as blaming the fans here for what you read elsewhere.

Do you attack all fans from other teams for coming on your board?

Have been nothing but respectful to you all and even complimented that you have a good team.

I am not here to cause trouble, just wanted some interaction with fellow well-educated OHL Fans.

 

[Fastpace]

How is nobody commenting on how the Knights are sore losers by putting the Boulton line out at the end of the game.....carry on.

What was the matter with that, the fourth line is part of the team as well, they are very much allow to play in this game too. Nothing happened in the end, no incident, no penalties and no one got hurt. Don't see the nature of this comment....Dale knows best. Carry on!

 

[Otto]

Do you attack all fans from other teams for coming on your board?

Have been nothing but respectful to you all and even complimented that you have a good team.

I am not here to cause trouble, just wanted some interaction with fellow well-educated OHL Fans.

Dude, you made a statement that came across like it came from this board when nobody said anything like it. I'm all for interaction, and I agree, you were respectful up until that point.. but seriously.. re-read that post again.. And I'll ask the question again.. how are we supposed to know what those other people are thinking?

 

[Altek]

I am not a dude, I am 100% female


And I already answered that above, I was wondering if there was some sort of back story or reasoning for it that I was not aware of.

Just thought maybe the more educated Knights fans on here would be able to answer this question more than the less educated on the other platforms.

Thats it that's all didn't think I as being so aggressive insulting Knights fans by posing that question

 

[Otto]

I am not a dude, I am 100% female


And I already answered that above, I was wondering if there was some sort of back story or reasoning for it that I was not aware of.

My apologies for assuming.

 

[OHL4Life]

My apologies for assuming.

thats not very nice otto

 

[dino200022]

I do not think most educated Knights fans are complaining that Gens goals were scored on the Power Play. We all said before the series started that the boys MUST stay out of the box. I think it has more to do with HOW Oshawa came out with said powerplays. I will break some down some blatantly missed calls before going through some other weak calls.

The whole game was officiated egregiously!

1 - Woolley roughing - Yes correct call.

Missed Call - O'Reilly blatantly speared in the nether region by Ritchie off the faceoff. Ref looks right at O'Reilly and laughed at him.

2 - Van Bommell - Boarding - Meh boarderline board, official took 7 seconds after hit to make the call. Officials arm was not up until D'Amato pretended like he was hurt 5-7 seconds after the hit.

3 - Sim - 4 Min High Stick - High stick yes, 4 mins absolutely not. Sennecke PICKED his nose for a solid 6-8 seconds and then the ref actually looked UP INTO HIS NOSE for what might have been a small amount of blood that Sennecke obviously produced by picking his own nose haha

Cowan Tripped in neutral zone while shorthanded. Again ref looks directly at him and shakes his head.

4 - Ritchie - Roughing - Meh him and Bonk were tied up. Both should have went to the box but Ref knew he could not do that.

5 - Sennecke "Roughing" Sim "Diving" - If getting cross checked in the face nets you a diving penalty then the precedent for diving has now been set.

6 - Woolley - Roughing - This one was awful. Woolley hits Buckey and Buckley falls. Buckley has both arms wrapped around Woolleys foot preventing him from moving for 3-4 seconds. Woolley pushes him once and gets a "roughing" penalty. Make it make sense. This one garnered a Rough and a Hold.

7 - Bonk - 4 Min High Sticking - Again sure there was a tad bit of blood. it was an accidental high stick but a high stick non the less. But if Sim got a dive, Sennecke acting like a sniper shot him should have garnished an embelllishment call for sure!

7 - Martin - Roughing - Again officials should have taken both combatants as both were roughing after the whistle. 100 Percent make up call.

8 - Cowan ( Goalie Int )/Sennecke ( Rough ) - Goal disallowed because of goalie interference. Replay clearly shows Marelli CROSS CHECKING Cowan into his own goalie. I can understand the goal being disallowed but that interference penalty should have been taken off the board as it was the Oshawa player who initiated the contact.

9 - Montgomery - Tripping - Shitty call but had to be made it was obviously a trip. Although it would not have happened if Officials call the hold in the corner on Haltunnen a minute before where D'Amato was drapped all over his back.

With all of this being said, if we bury any of our 3 breakaways/P.Shot then we could have won regardless.

 

[Geff]

How is nobody commenting on how the Knights are sore losers by putting the Boulton line out at the end of the game.....carry on.

How does that make them “sore losers”? Game is pretty much over, so they should have put their top line out and risk injuries? Pretty sure both teams had their 4th lines out to finish the game. Standard practice by most teams in that situation.

 

[ohloutsider]

I do not think most educated Knights fans are complaining that Gens goals were scored on the Power Play. We all said before the series started that the boys MUST stay out of the box. I think it has more to do with HOW Oshawa came out with said powerplays. I will break some down some blatantly missed calls before going through some other weak calls.

The whole game was officiated egregiously!

1 - Woolley roughing - Yes correct call.

Missed Call - O'Reilly blatantly speared in the nether region by Ritchie off the faceoff. Ref looks right at O'Reilly and laughed at him.

2 - Van Bommell - Boarding - Meh boarderline board, official took 7 seconds after hit to make the call. Officials arm was not up until D'Amato pretended like he was hurt 5-7 seconds after the hit.

3 - Sim - 4 Min High Stick - High stick yes, 4 mins absolutely not. Sennecke PICKED his nose for a solid 6-8 seconds and then the ref actually looked UP INTO HIS NOSE for what might have been a small amount of blood that Sennecke obviously produced by picking his own nose haha

Cowan Tripped in neutral zone while shorthanded. Again ref looks directly at him and shakes his head.

4 - Ritchie - Roughing - Meh him and Bonk were tied up. Both should have went to the box but Ref knew he could not do that.

5 - Sennecke "Roughing" Sim "Diving" - If getting cross checked in the face nets you a diving penalty then the precedent for diving has now been set.

6 - Woolley - Roughing - This one was awful. Woolley hits Buckey and Buckley falls. Buckley has both arms wrapped around Woolleys foot preventing him from moving for 3-4 seconds. Woolley pushes him once and gets a "roughing" penalty. Make it make sense. This one garnered a Rough and a Hold.

7 - Bonk - 4 Min High Sticking - Again sure there was a tad bit of blood. it was an accidental high stick but a high stick non the less. But if Sim got a dive, Sennecke acting like a sniper shot him should have garnished an embelllishment call for sure!

7 - Martin - Roughing - Again officials should have taken both combatants as both were roughing after the whistle. 100 Percent make up call.

8 - Cowan ( Goalie Int )/Sennecke ( Rough ) - Goal disallowed because of goalie interference. Replay clearly shows Marelli CROSS CHECKING Cowan into his own goalie. I can understand the goal being disallowed but that interference penalty should have been taken off the board as it was the Oshawa player who initiated the contact.

9 - Montgomery - Tripping - Shitty call but had to be made it was obviously a trip. Although it would not have happened if Officials call the hold in the corner on Haltunnen a minute before where D'Amato was drapped all over his back.

The explanation given by the TSN guys on why the goal was called back made sense, at least to me. They said and showed on the replay that Cowan was already in the blue paint and had made contact with Oster ( the face wash) before he was checked from behind into Oster. Also Cowan would have hindered Osters ability to make the save being that he was already in the blue paint and draped over Oster.
I'd be more concerned about the missed opportunities that London had. That is what cost them the game.
And lastly Oshawa looked nervous and out of sorts for the 1st 2 periods. London and Oshawa both have more to give. This is going to be a hard fought series. Be safe.

 

[dino200022]

The explanation given by the TSN guys on why the goal was called back made sense, at least to me. They said and showed on the replay that Cowan was already in the blue paint and had made contact with Oster ( the face wash) before he was checked from behind into Oster. Also Cowan would have hindered Osters ability to make the save being that he was already in the blue paint and draped over Oster.
I'd be more concerned about the missed opportunities that London had. That is what cost them the game.
And lastly Oshawa looked nervous and out of sorts for the 1st 2 periods. London and Oshawa both have more to give. This is going to be a hard fought series. Be safe.

Yes that makes sense on the Cowan interference penalty. But as per the rule "incidental" contact was made so the goal gets wiped off. It also states that the penalty gets wiped off as well. 95 percent of the contact was made because of Marelli cross checking Cowan in to the goalie. The TSN announcers even stated this and were confused by the call. And one of those announcers is an ex- Ranger and we know they have no love for the Knights nor should they! So the goal should be disallowed and Sennecke should have a roughing penalty. And please tell me how Marelli cross checking Cowan from behind into his own goalie miraculously got missed? It just seems to have a little bit of a foul odour that one team seemed to be playing by a totally different set of standards. But as Mr. Hunter said last night with a giant smirk on his face and a giant chuckle " oh the officials were great tonight "