London Knights 2024-25 Season Thread, Part V

[Otto]

Was he really Impaired not saying he did was right but as a novice driver have to have 0 if he had .001 and wasn't a novice driver he wouldn't have gotten DUI.
Not excusing what he did but we don't know all the details I reserve my judgment till March 6th when he has his day in court

Cameron Allen, 20, is charged with impaired driving, impaired operation exceeding legal blood-alcohol levels, failing to remain at the scene of a crash, failing to report an accident and having a blood-alcohol concentration above zero as a novice driver.

I don't think they would charge him with the first two plus the last one, if he was at .001

 

[Matt93]

Good to see some Knights fans are willing to put the success of the team over the law and other people's lives.

It is surprising the number of people trying to defend him. Do you go on every LFPress post and defend the driver in a DUI crash as well or is it just because Allen plays for your favourite team?

Mailloux received a half year suspension for sharing a picture (not publicly, with teammates) of a sexual act without consent. What Allen did was way worse and the OHL would have A LOT of questions to answer if he isn't suspended for at least the rest of the year.

Hockey culture needs to change and fast.....I have seen first hand the BS that happens.

 

[LDN]

Whatever the decision is the new commissioner needs to get it right.

 

[dino200022]

Good to see some Knights fans are willing to put the success of the team over the law and other people's lives.

It is surprising the number of people trying to defend him. Do you go on every LFPress post and defend the driver in a DUI crash as well or is it just because Allen plays for your favourite team?

Mailloux received a half year suspension for sharing a picture (not publicly, with teammates) of a sexual act without consent. What Allen did was way worse and the OHL would have A LOT of questions to answer if he isn't suspended for at least the rest of the year.

Hockey culture needs to change and fast.....I have seen first hand the BS that happens.

I understand what you are saying, but I am sure you never went to the QMJHL commsioner and complained when he only gave Jordan Dumais a 5 game suspension for getting charged with a DUI at 2:20 AM?

Right, Wrong or indifferent a prescident across the CHL has potentially been set. While I think it is far too leniant, others may think it is just right. Everyone is allowed their opinion whether it is agreed upon or not.

And to think that it is just "Hockey Culture" is very Naive. It is teenage culture, and sports culture in general unfortunately.

 

[TheOrangePylon]

So, basically suspended until they look into it further. Pretty vague from the OHL.

Knights' Cam Allen Suspended Pending Outcome of League Review - Ontario Hockey League

London Knights player Cam Allen has been suspended pending the outcome of a League review into off-ice events that occurred on Saturday, February 8th.

chl.ca

 

[Otto]

Whatever the decision is the new commissioner needs to get it right.

There is no consensus as to what is "right"

 

[ArielNederland]

Pending what the court outcome is, Allen might want to look at European options if he wants some sort of career. Actions have consequences.

 

[Jantung]

I'm not sure what the league will determine is the right punishment the fact this has reached media outlets across North America and in the aftermath of what happened to the Gaudreau's I have a feeling we can throw out the Q example. If the league comes off looking too weak on the punishment especially as a rookie commissioner that won't be good overall for OHL recruitment in my eyes. As much as I hate seeing a team spend assets to just lose the player I feel we may not see Allen in a Knights jersey again this year, this incident goes above just the OHL.

 

[blkhawk]

Rick Westhead in on this story yet ?

 

[All the Answers]

I understand what you are saying, but I am sure you never went to the QMJHL commsioner and complained when he only gave Jordan Dumais a 5 game suspension for getting charged with a DUI at 2:20 AM?

Right, Wrong or indifferent a prescident across the CHL has potentially been set. While I think it is far too leniant, others may think it is just right. Everyone is allowed their opinion whether it is agreed upon or not.

And to think that it is just "Hockey Culture" is very Naive. It is teenage culture, and sports culture in general unfortunately.

There is no precedent. The act, circumstances, and outcomes are completely different to Dumais.

 

[Otto]

Seriously. One phone call

 

[Logosarejusttargets]

So what’s nonsense.? I said I don’t know all the circumstances other than he made a glaring mistake. But I guess my nonsense means you where there and you know all

There is zero excuse in this day and age - between Uber/Lyft/Taxi there is almost no where in any town let alone a city like London that a person couldn't get a ride

 

[Ward Cornell]

Pending what the court outcome is, Allen might want to look at European options if he wants some sort of career. Actions have consequences.

If his talent is greater than this offence, going by pro sports history he'll be ok.
Just a commentary on pro sports and their willingness to have a long leash on certain offences.
I believe at his age, he should be given a second chance after serving his suspension. But anything less than this season and playoffs is unacceptable. It's not only to "punish" him but to set an example for other players

 

[three dog night]

Was another player involved heard two different stories.

 

[ArielNederland]

Was another player involved heard two different stories.

I think so as a passenger but the police aren't releasing the name. Either the person didn't want to be named or is a minor

 

[crowncarrier]

won't be wake up call unless he is seriously punished, would say same thing even if Ranger player.

I honestly have no idea whst you are saying what you say "would you say the same thing even if Ranger player".

 

[nelli27]

Can Caleb Mitchell be called up?

 

[Millpond]

There is no consensus as to what is "right"

Seeious question- when a player is suspended, is that from playing games, or does it extend further, such as practices, team functions etc ?

 

[ohloutsider]

I think so as a passenger but the police aren't releasing the name. Either the person didn't want to be named or is a minor

I think this is ( for me) a bigger concern. The Allen stuff will get resolved by the league and the authorities but who was the passenger? Was this a friend, girlfriend or another player? If a minor we will never know and shouldn't know but if it is a minor at that time of day and drinking involved that is a concern. If it was a player and a minor how will the league and authorities address that? All of these questions make the situation far more difficult to understand and not a straight up answer as a comparable to another DUI for another player.

If it is another player does anyone think they may face some discipline as well or does this part get covered up? And of course maybe it was not another player and that we may never know. Secrecy leads to speculation. And here we are.

 

[Knightsfan90]

Cameron Allen, 20, is charged with impaired driving, impaired operation exceeding legal blood-alcohol levels, failing to remain at the scene of a crash, failing to report an accident and having a blood-alcohol concentration above zero as a novice driver.

I don't think they would charge him with the first two plus the last one, if he was at .001

Exceeding blood alcohol level as a novice driver is anything above zero.
So yes if he has minute trace of alcohol it does change the perception of his DUI
The charges he got are all standard DUI related charges for anyone minus the leaving the scene

Can Caleb Mitchell be called up?

Yes knights have 1 card left has to be soon though roster freeze is in a week or so

 

[Greys]

I don’t know about everyone else but when I was 20, I was very capable of doing some pretty stupid things. Fortunately I wasn’t a junior hockey player in the social media era where our expectations can be high. I am glad that it appears no one was seriously hurt. I hope this young man gets the support and help he needs and learns from this. What the league or team does is secondary in the big picture. I look at Craig McTavish and the model citizen he became after his similar mistake with worse consequences. I am not a Knights fan but I would hope all fans would want the best for any player on any team in the league.

 

[rve24]

I'll go out a limb and say regardless of where the league/team lands in terms of severity of discipline/ punishment one side will say too much or not enough and maybe both are unhappy with it.
DD isn't a teen or hockey issue in isolation, it's across the board

 

[OHL4Life]

Ok, enjoy back to back years out of the playoffs

what does that have to do with the initial convo?

 

[Sane Knights Fan]

Was he really Impaired not saying he did was right but as a novice driver have to have 0 if he had .001 and wasn't a novice driver he wouldn't have gotten DUI.
Not excusing what he did but we don't know all the details I reserve my judgment till March 6th when he has his day in court

Exactly. We don’t know !!! Let’s move on. There’s a ton of positives to talk about on the Knights page

Good to see some Knights fans are willing to put the success of the team over the law and other people's lives.

It is surprising the number of people trying to defend him. Do you go on every LFPress post and defend the driver in a DUI crash as well or is it just because Allen plays for your favourite team?

Mailloux received a half year suspension for sharing a picture (not publicly, with teammates) of a sexual act without consent. What Allen did was way worse and the OHL would have A LOT of questions to answer if he isn't suspended for at least the rest of the year.

Hockey culture needs to change and fast.....I have seen first hand the BS that happens.

Yep and you come on the knights page and play judge jury and executor

 

[Otto]

what does that have to do with the initial convo?

The post I was responding to wasn't part of the original convo