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It'll be ok, Knights fans. This league doesn't care about supplemental discipline for repeat offenders.
London Knights 2024-25 Season Thread, Part II
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You're missing the checking line idea. It's a shutdown line. One thst gets PT and lots depending on matchups, not a 4th line used for energy thst gets little PT some crunch time ( unless it's a 4th line like Horvat/Tierney/Anderson......correct me if memory slipping)
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Read and Hawery will be rested, and definitely bring more skill. They should be in the lineup tomorrow with Elliot getting the start.
Nice to have the extra bodies when you're playing 3 in 3.
Dickinson: 6 points (1G, 5A)
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Interesting perspective and no right answer. It's situational and why coaches get the big bucks n short shelf lives unless you own it lol.
Vs Niagara after 1 game in the OHL finals the message was shut D Hamilton down immediately, often, attack, no space.....and they went on to roll the next 4 games.
I'm a fan of forcing pace n play (but not always Hunters style to say the least) but also appreciate those who sit back n make the fewest mistakes also win most often.
They are aggressive on the PK/PP and situational 5 on 5
Nope. Leave his BS elsewhere regardless the talent.
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This I can't understand. The Boultons have none of the talent, but really are there only to cause BS (just a different type of BS). Yet you continue to defend Ryder this year? I can't wrap my head around that "logic".
I continue to defend him? How many times? Seems your exaggerating here.
I admitted to not seeing the play.
I said if he goes across the line he should face the consequences. Didn't defend anything lol.
Also said teammates appreciated his brother doing the same last year.
Not condoning his or anyone's actions, just saying teammates may ( and do ) appreciate it.
ZP actions I got no time for. The fakeness, looking to stripes for help, spitting at players, whinning.......just not my cup of tea. Once, twice, three times sure i got room to say theyll grow out of it......If he did it as consistently as he does while wearing GnG I'd call it out. also. His record speaks for itself. No time for that type player myself.
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How about Montgomery tonight he’s getting better every game and what about Van Bommell he looked great tonight , speed , for check he needs and deserves more ice . I can’t believe Kasper gets 5 and s game , cmon , like those bad from behind checks happen every game. should have been 2 that’s it . They also let Barkey get run over by another player in the first letting the Saginaw guy skate in and score . Should have been an easy interference call ,then we should have a had 2 on 1 but Parkeh took out Julian when he didn’t have the puck in tbe second period. Those refs sucked
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Sounds like defending him here.
And Sawyer never really "paid the toll". On his 7th suspension of the year he still only received the minimum 2 games required for a slew foot. Supplemental discipline in regards to Sawyer last year was an absolute mockery in regards to a repeat offender.
Tonight’s game was a 6-2 win going away that turned into a 6-5 game due to an unnecessary and undisciplined penalty. I don’t see the value in that. Sorry. And I am not a Boulton hater I just would like to see him excercise better judgement.
Nope didn't defend his actions, said he should pay the price, but ok. Even said he should get the hammer if crossing the line vut ok lol.
Said he didn't hurt the team and he hasn't (same as Sawyer....they won the league title)
I'm not in charge of league discupline. Sawyer got what he got for the slew foot you mdntioned ( an auto mi and league decidex that was the prixe) . Others think he got screwed in other susoensions so there is that side of the fence you ignore.
I don't get into it, Is what it is. Cross the line, pay the toll. Whatever toll the league sets. I'm not a ref/ league susoension whiner either way ( for or against my team
That isn't defending either player.
Did you see the play? Can you provide context on the play/game. It may provide clarity for me.
Didn't see it as I said. Can't comment other than it didn't hurt the team as they won. I'll agree we could all use better judgement at times.
Emotionally......
Maybe it helped as the 19 other skaters were sick of ZP shi.....
Maybe it hurt cause they think it let Saggy back in the game.......
I dunno, but if you do please let us know.
But it didn't affect the 2 pts
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Takeaways for me. Not that anyone asked.
Van Bommel has improved his game to the point where he’s making East-west plays. Much more confident this year and I give him a ton of credit.
Not that I’m correct, but in my opinion, rostering the the Boultons the last two years is ludicrous. Look it, I love this organization and the OHL and have nothing but respect for the London staff. And no, Ryder didn’t lose the game for London tonight, but that doesn’t mean it’s an endorsement of his asinine play. Remember, actual draft eligible talent (Arrowsmith) is consistently sitting. Does anyone really think that is the best decision for the club or Arrowsmith? If I’m Arrowsmith’s advisors, I’m asking out of London immediately if they haven’t already. As for Sawyer, well of course his teammates are going to defend him. That doesn’t mean they are correct in their view that he tangibly helped the team win a championship last year. (Hint: he didn’t). Maybe they felt ‘safer’ with him in the lineup but what the heck do you need to feel safer for? You afraid one of the opposition is going to take liberties with you in the hot-as-butter soft league? It’s 2024, you simply don’t need the sideshows anymore.
Another takeaway - I’ve said this a few times but the composition of London’s team is less than ideal. I know faceoffs are overrated, but after watching Beck, Sapovaliv, Hay dominate them last year, you cannot tell me that it didn’t impact their Memorial Cup win. And faceoffs are just a tiny snapshot of what the centers are responsible for. You typically need 2-3 good or great centers to win in this league!
On the topic of centers, Julien has got to be better. He is an overager now. Should be one of London’s better players but for the majority of his ice time, he’s a no-show. I’m sorry, but it’s true. I’m thinking if there’s any Josh Bloom type acquisition that Saginaw made last year sitting in pro hockey as a junior overager, I’m all over that if I’m London. I’m sure they’re exploring all options, as any responsible front office would.
Dickinson took less risks today and was unbelievable. I do not, for the life of me, understand how Calgary decided ZP was a better pick than Sam. Antics aside.
Sorry for the soapbox post. Blast away. Words don’t hurt me as much as the OHL thinks it would.
Van Bommel has improved his game to the point where he’s making East-west plays. Much more confident this year and I give him a ton of credit.
Not that I’m correct, but in my opinion, rostering the the Boultons the last two years is ludicrous. Look it, I love this organization and the OHL and have nothing but respect for the London staff. And no, Ryder didn’t lose the game for London tonight, but that doesn’t mean it’s an endorsement of his asinine play. Remember, actual draft eligible talent (Arrowsmith) is consistently sitting. Does anyone really think that is the best decision for the club or Arrowsmith? If I’m Arrowsmith’s advisors, I’m asking out of London immediately if they haven’t already. As for Sawyer, well of course his teammates are going to defend him. That doesn’t mean they are correct in their view that he tangibly helped the team win a championship last year. (Hint: he didn’t). Maybe they felt ‘safer’ with him in the lineup but what the heck do you need to feel safer for? You afraid one of the opposition is going to take liberties with you in the hot-as-butter soft league? It’s 2024, you simply don’t need the sideshows anymore.
Another takeaway - I’ve said this a few times but the composition of London’s team is less than ideal. I know faceoffs are overrated, but after watching Beck, Sapovaliv, Hay dominate them last year, you cannot tell me that it didn’t impact their Memorial Cup win. And faceoffs are just a tiny snapshot of what the centers are responsible for. You typically need 2-3 good or great centers to win in this league!
On the topic of centers, Julien has got to be better. He is an overager now. Should be one of London’s better players but for the majority of his ice time, he’s a no-show. I’m sorry, but it’s true. I’m thinking if there’s any Josh Bloom type acquisition that Saginaw made last year sitting in pro hockey as a junior overager, I’m all over that if I’m London. I’m sure they’re exploring all options, as any responsible front office would.
Dickinson took less risks today and was unbelievable. I do not, for the life of me, understand how Calgary decided ZP was a better pick than Sam. Antics aside.
Sorry for the soapbox post. Blast away. Words don’t hurt me as much as the OHL thinks it would.
I did see the play. He slashed Parekh in the rib area hard enough to break his stick and then hit him a second time. While I agree there is frustration on behalf of opposing players with Parekh’s antics on the ice there are better ways to deal with it than what Boulton did with the slash. On that note let’s move on. We can both agree and disagree on the value of a player in different circumstances.
