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I think that's a fair assessment. Stanley does play well at times and for stretches. But he doesn't seem able to sustain it. He wilts under pressure.
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I think that's a fair assessment. Stanley does play well at times and for stretches. But he doesn't seem able to sustain it. He wilts under pressure.
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I think (hope) Fleury slots in when healthy
Or Chevy finds someone at TDL for better depth
I think it’s worth noting also that Garret titled his original draft preview piece “Logan Stanley could be a good player, so don’t draft him” — this wasn’t ever meant as a takedown of a player or person, but a cautionary tale about what scouts, GMs and coaches tend to value, sometimes wrongly, in prospects and players.
Size over mobility, (supposed) physicality over headiness, and so on.
Stan is clearly a player who has worked hard and done what’s been asked of him, for a long time now. I think his ceiling now is what his talent and situation allow. Nothing wrong with that.
He was never particular a heavy defensive player who loved to lay guys out and drop the gloves, but a big guy with a nice passing touch, some vision, and a sneaky shot who liked to carry, a la Myers the Galloping Giraffe. If the org is bent on turning him into something he ain’t, that’s on them.
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Imagine the only thing you have to talk about is your 6/7th D man on the leading team in the NHL. Good god look at that D the Nucks iced last night. That is bad. End rant.
This problem probably solves itself this year likely by the trade deadline.
This problem probably solves itself this year likely by the trade deadline.
When Sammy went down, they put Fleury on the 2nd pair and Stanley on the 3rd.
It is time to re-acquaint Stanley with the pressbox.
JMo DD
Sammy Pionk
Fleury Miller
Stan/Heinola
Cogs goes down to the Moose.
It is time to re-acquaint Stanley with the pressbox.
JMo DD
Sammy Pionk
Fleury Miller
Stan/Heinola
Cogs goes down to the Moose.
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I think Fleury was pretty bad on the 2nd pairing. But the team was so good early I think you go back to this
I agree it's lower on the list of priorities, but if the Jets are going to be a true contender it's an Achilles heel. The Avs exposed Stanley, and he takes too many penalties and is a sub-par PKer.
I think the concern is that Arniel said Stanley has to be a top-6 D and he's followed through on that approach.
It does need to be addressed before the TDL, in my view. Fleury might work but I don't see an obvious solution currently in the Jets' depth chart. That's the take-home message for me.
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Agreed. I prefer Fleury to Stanley based on their play this season but I don't think either one is a regular on a true cup contender
I think Fleury might work as a 3 LD but I think Arniel wants more size and physicality on D. I trust Fleury more than Stanley, including on the PK One option would be to acquire a big RD (Risto?) instead of another LD.
Overall, I'm fine with Stanley getting a run here to stabilize his game a bit as a depth D, but hoping that Chevy improves the LD.
Stanley was exposed? He was on ice for 2 GF and 3 GA at 5v5. Samberg was 1GF 8GA.
Laying the playoff loss at Stanley’s feet is just a lazy narrative.
Nobody is laying the playoff loss entirely at Stanley's feet. I'm concerned with the Jets' weak spots as they try to make a deep playoff run.
Yes, Stanley was exposed. That's why he was benched even though the Jets had two LHD injured (Morrissey and Dillon).
Using goals for/against in a very small sample isn't persuasive. Samberg had the best xGF balance but the Jets' shooting was 3% and Hellebuyck's save % was 79% when Samberg was on the ice. The Jets were significantly outshot and outchanced with Stanley on the ice, despite him being sheltered as much as coaches could. Nobody would rationally argue that Stanley is a better bet than Samberg based on the goal +/- from last year's playoffs.
More importantly, Stanley's playoffs mirrored the other 170+ games of his career where he's struggled when the pace picks up and is not good on the PK.
My bottom line is that I think it's too risky to try to make another playoff run with Stanley as a fixture in the top 5-6 of the Jets' D.
If you disagree, what is your rationale?
The biggest thing limiting Stanley's GA during that series is that the Jets hardly played him. He got into 3 games and only saw 10 minutes per night at 5v5. And he also got the benefit of playing in the first game - the Jets 6-7 win.
Samberg played all the games, and he played a lot of unsheltered minutes with Pionk who was an unmitigated all-caps DISASTER for that whole series. He was also the victim of 8 goals against on 2.74 xGA.
Give Stanley Samberg's minutes in that series and the Jets would've been relegated to the AHL...
And the Jets coaching staff obviously knew that Stanley's was a liability out there. 10 sheltered minutes a night with 0 PK time and pressboxed after 3 games? Yeah, they knew what was up.
They still know what's up, which is why it's so frustrating to see him dressed every night. Fans were booing him last night. Does someone need to rent a sign and park it at True North Square to get the message to these stubborn f***s?
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Laying the playoffs losses at ANY one player's feet is a lazy narrative
You don't get owned like that without a whole lot of guys sucking
There were some boos for Stanley on his next shift when he kind of fumbled the puck again - just before throwing that big hit - which they cheered! Fickle bunch...
But yeah, I'd say fan sentiment is turning against him. He gets burned so badly...just like flashing-neon-sign, Keystone Kops bad.
If you never notice a defenseman, that's probably good. If you never notice a defenseman unless he's getting walked for a shutout ruining goal-against late in the 3rd, you're going have a negative opinion of him.
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Stanley has been pylon'n for the jets now for over 166 games, let's not forget he's also asked to be traded. I don't think there is anymore real progression from this guy. If we stick with him for more then another year that means we are signing him to another contract which would be sheer madness.
I think Heinola passed him in my jets D rankings as of last night. One of them continues to improve and one doesn’t.
