A lot better than the guy most people believe to be the closest player to Bergeron currently in the league? You guys realize that 50 does not actually equal 20, right?
Value of: Linus Ullmark
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A lot better than the guy most people believe to be the closest player to Bergeron currently in the league? You guys realize that 50 does not actually equal 20, right?
We don't know if he nixed the trade because he didn't want to go to LA or if he just didn't want to move cross country mid season. Offseason, especially after riding the bench in the playoffs, may change his tune on opportunities.
CellyHard
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What about Ullmark for Gavrikov? Both one year left. Gavrikov makes a little more but they’ll have the space.
We know the Bruins had interest in him in the past. I have no idea how LA feels about Gavrikov but if they have no intention of resigning him, it could make sense
We know the Bruins had interest in him in the past. I have no idea how LA feels about Gavrikov but if they have no intention of resigning him, it could make sense
wintersej
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Yeah I had similar thoughts, but I just can’t get myself excited about Gavrikov’s extension. Lorhei will also be up for a new deal then, too, and if he keeps playing like this, not sure you want to put yourself in a situation where you can only offer Lorhei a bridge.
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wintersej
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I think how well Lorhei has been playing might be tempering the Bruins desire to add a D of that quality. Obviously, its easy to put too much stock into a few good playoff games, but even coming into this season it was Lorhei, not Lysell or Poitras, that those around the team that watch these guys every day (unlike the national guys) that was viewed as the Bruins top prospect.
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Goalie_Bob
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When was the last time a goalie was traded for a 1st round pick? And better yet a mid 1st round pick?
Especially a 31 year old by the time the season starts with one year on their contract?
I get it, Ullmark has been very good to great during the regular season over the past 5 seasons. But he has played more than half his teams games once during that span. So history would say the team trading for him is going to have to have a guy who can play in the other half of the games.
Then you get to his playoff performance and it has not been even good.
I think people are way overvaluing him especially in the current market that doesn’t value goalies in a high manner.
Especially a 31 year old by the time the season starts with one year on their contract?
I get it, Ullmark has been very good to great during the regular season over the past 5 seasons. But he has played more than half his teams games once during that span. So history would say the team trading for him is going to have to have a guy who can play in the other half of the games.
Then you get to his playoff performance and it has not been even good.
I think people are way overvaluing him especially in the current market that doesn’t value goalies in a high manner.
wintersej
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I mean rumor has it that Dubas was about to make the move using the Pens 2023 first before he decided to bring back Jarry instead. To the point where the Bruins were calling prospects that hadn't talked to because talks were far enough along.
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You're not getting the 10th overall pick for ullmark. His trade value likely in line with kuemper's a few years ago
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I thin Blake tries to re-sign Gavrikov as it is one of the few players he has brought in on trade that made sense. That said I think there were rumors he almost did not re-sign last time as he likes smaller markets. Not sure where that would put Boston on his preferences.
Gil Gunderson
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What about your 2024 1st rounder back as a main piece?
Anyways, I’m not sure he would even waive his NTC.
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Speaking for LA, we dont want Ullmark, his playoff record is unflattering. We can lose in the first round just as easily with the garbage we already have.
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From a Kings POV, they’re better off keeping Gavrikov and their current goalie tandem than trading Gavs for Ullmatk.
go4hockey
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LA should have no interest in that deal. They need more centers not less.
lanceuppercut75
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Forge
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I think you're going to be disappointed.
Honestly, I'm not even sure how much the devils want Ullmark. The talk tying those two together was pretty tepid. Maybe it's just because the Markstrom talk was so deafening, but didn't seem like there was a lot of action on the Ullmark / Devils angle
lanceuppercut75
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This is just my take, but I think New Jersey would only consider doing that if Ullmark agreed to a multi year extension to play in New Jersey as part of the trade.
"10th overall for one year of a goalie" doesn't feel right. In the Horvat pick (9th overall?) for Cory Schneider deal 11 summers ago, Schneider had I think 3 years on his contract, or was RFA and signed 3 years in New Jersey.
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lanceuppercut75
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I thought the Oilers desperately needed good cheap young talent to play depth roles? Also, you'd have to then probably trade Skinner somewhere for cap reasons, and you won't get a Broberg back in that trade.
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