Player Discussion Linus Ullmark (G)

[jbeck5]

I am not really sure what y'all are looking for. Complaining he's making $8-mill next year and that he didn't get us past the Leafs is a bit of bunk from my perspective. Two goalies earning more than him never made the playoffs. This fanbase needs to be more realistic at times. I'd say, like the team, Ullmark made strides in the playoffs this year. He had his first playoff shutout and didn't play that bad in game 6. Saying we need this or we need that or expecting Meri to save the day are pretty unrealistic expectations honestly.

If saying we need top level goaltending in the playoffs to win a cup is unrealistic for ullmark, then he's not the guy...

 

[jbeck5]

I am not really sure what y'all are looking for. Complaining he's making $8-mill next year and that he didn't get us past the Leafs is a bit of bunk from my perspective. Two goalies earning more than him never made the playoffs. This fanbase needs to be more realistic at times. I'd say, like the team, Ullmark made strides in the playoffs this year. He had his first playoff shutout and didn't play that bad in game 6. Saying we need this or we need that or expecting Meri to save the day are pretty unrealistic expectations honestly.

If saying we need top goaltending in the playoffs to win a cup in unrealistic for ullmark, then he's not the guy

That core is not good enough. Although they’re all good players. The unit overall is not good enough.

Missing a stud or two for sure.

I feel like when you compare it to:

Alfredsson
Hossa/heatley
Havlat
Spezza
Redden
Chara
Hasek

Etc.

Then guys like 30 goal, 70 point McEachern, 50-70 point bonk, 40-50 point Fisher, Chris Neil, etc.

You had a better core with guys destined for the ball of fame... And then your supporting cast was capable of 30 goals and 70 points in big year.


Were lacking that depth and top end talent. As good as Tkachuk and stutzle are...are they Hossa/Alfredsson hall of fame good? If they are, where's our Heatley,Spezza, havlat, to round out the offense? Where's our endless supply of 2way 50 point centers like white and Smolinski and fisher?

Is Sanderson going to rank as high as Chara all time? If so, where's his redden?

Then we're going to need ullmark to beat lalime or Anderson's playoff numbers. Go look at both of them. Can ullmark top them?

Then you realize the team I'm comparing them to never won a cup...so they actually have to SURPASS the team they're well behind when it comes to personnel.

 

[BoardsofCanada]

I think we can make it work with Ullmark but we have to improve the D.

Take Adin Hill in Vegas; he's a good goalie but he's a product of the air tight D in front of him. The Vegas blueline is huge and well coached. They don't miss many assignments, they block a lot of shots and they get the puck out. That's what we need in front of Ullmark.

 

[Icelevel]

I think we can make it work with Ullmark but we have to improve the D.

Take Adin Hill in Vegas; he's a good goalie but he's a product of the air tight D in front of him. The Vegas blueline is huge and well coached. They don't miss many assignments, they block a lot of shots and they get the puck out. That's what we need in front of Ullmark.

He needs to see the shots to have a chance. He wasn’t good enough but they can do a better job of clearing and not getting in his way.

 

[bicboi64]

Senators' Linus Ullmark opens up on Team Sweden’s IIHF World Championship snub - "Something they have to own up to"

Linus Ullmark and the Ottawa Senators were officially eliminated from the Stanley Cup Playoffs on Thursday night.

www.sportskeeda.com

Sucks for Ullmark that he couldn't go play with Sweden at the Worlds, but given how injury prone he is, I'm fine with him not going.

 

[DylanSensFan]

If saying we need top level goaltending in the playoffs to win a cup is unrealistic for ullmark, then he's not the guy...

What's unrealistic is expecting that Meri can come in and save the day. I believe we have a right to expect a lot from Ullmark, but we also have to provide the means for him to deliver. Giving up on him after one playoff series isn't realistic. Pulling him after one bad game isn't realistic. People suggesting he be pulled early in the series, meant he wouldn't have had a shut out. Experience only comes through being in the game.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I think we can make it work with Ullmark but we have to improve the D.

Take Adin Hill in Vegas; he's a good goalie but he's a product of the air tight D in front of him. The Vegas blueline is huge and well coached. They don't miss many assignments, they block a lot of shots and they get the puck out. That's what we need in front of Ullmark.

Size and snarl. We have a couple good puck movers on LD. So if we can get another Kleven type guy for RD (and Kleven to take the next step), we'll be in good shape.

 

[Hale The Villain]

I think we can make it work with Ullmark but we have to improve the D.

Take Adin Hill in Vegas; he's a good goalie but he's a product of the air tight D in front of him. The Vegas blueline is huge and well coached. They don't miss many assignments, they block a lot of shots and they get the puck out. That's what we need in front of Ullmark.

Can't understate the importance of a top quality head coach like Cassidy as well.

Green has done well implementing a strong defensive system and two-way focus at even strength, but he badly needs to fix the PK, as it was one of the worst in the league at preventing scoring chances.

 

[ACLEVERNAME]

I like him when he does his job but overall I don't 'love' the guy. Very abrasive personality imo.

This comming from a life-long Robin Lehner fan.

I see' fake crazy versus real crazy when I see it.

 

[aragorn]

Size and snarl. We have a couple good puck movers on LD. So if we can get another Kleven type guy for RD (and Kleven to take the next step), we'll be in good shape.

Isn't that what Yakemchuk is - size & snarl? Kleven - Yakemchuk

 

[Icelevel]

Isn't that what Yakemchuk is - size & snarl? Kleven - Yakemchuk

That is the obvious pairing. (Since before yak was drafted)

 

[jbeck5]

What's unrealistic is expecting that Meri can come in and save the day. I believe we have a right to expect a lot from Ullmark, but we also have to provide the means for him to deliver. Giving up on him after one playoff series isn't realistic. Pulling him after one bad game isn't realistic. People suggesting he be pulled early in the series, meant he wouldn't have had a shut out. Experience only comes through being in the game.

Oh I see, I misunderstood.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Isn't that what Yakemchuk is - size & snarl? Kleven - Yakemchuk

Yak is still a couple years away.

 

[Butchy Dakkar]

Bob got a massive (at the time) long term 10mill/yr deal and for a time it looked like a contract the Panthers were going to regret. Look at him now.

I wanted more from Ullmark this year, I still think we will get it.

 

[aragorn]

Yak is still a couple years away.

Really? He only has to be better than Matinpalo who brings zero offence to the equation, he's okay defensively, but has shown to be soft & shies away from the rough stuff. Depending how he does in Belleville I wouldn't be surprised if by the new yr he replaces him at least to get some NHL experience with Jensen most likely leaving after next season.

 

[Icelevel]

Yak is still a couple years away.

Doubt that

 

[coladin]

We needed more goals. Ullmark will be fine and he was good, not great. But two goals a game isn't enough

 

[Puikiou]

I'll never forgive Ullmark for sucking as much as he did against those scrubs.

 

[Ice-Tray]

I'll never forgive Ullmark for sucking as much as he did against those scrubs.

I bet you will

 

[Icelevel]

I'll never forgive Ullmark for sucking as much as he did against those scrubs.

Yeah he was part of the reason we didn’t win. Disappointment for sure. When the goalie is shaky back there it affects the rest of the team. He was confident later on (and it had a positive effect) but too late.
Then there was batherson.
Then Tkachuk being pretty seriously injured.
Then lack of goal scorers.
And lack of experience.

The way I saw it we could have won despite all that if not for batherson f up.

Hard to swallow but over it now pretty much. Looking forward to the off-season improvements.

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

We needed more goals. Ullmark will be fine and he was good, not great. But two goals a game isn't enough

Yup, this.

He pretty much won us Game 5. Didn’t lose us Game 1, but wasn’t very good. And then he was average in the rest of them.

Hard to blame him on a lot of the goals with the screens he faced, but we only scored more than two goals in the series twice, and one of them was because we got two empty net goals.

Interested to see Meralainen and Ullmark battle next season. Sens shouldn’t be afraid to go with whoever gives them the best chance to win, as Florida did with Bob and Lyon/Knight/Driedger over the years.

 

[DueDiligence]

Yup, this.

He pretty much won us Game 5. Didn’t lose us Game 1, but wasn’t very good. And then he was average in the rest of them.

Hard to blame him on a lot of the goals with the screens he faced, but we only scored more than two goals in the series twice, and one of them was because we got two empty net goals.

Interested to see Meralainen and Ullmark battle next season. Sens shouldn’t be afraid to go with whoever gives them the best chance to win, as Florida did with Bob and Lyon/Knight/Driedger over the years.

Compare Ullmark to Bob in Florida. Bob was crap the first two games then good after that. But it helps when your team can put up 6 goals in games 5 and 7.

 

[bicboi64]

Scoring was our biggest issue imo

After that I'd say it was Ullmark. Too many games with a sub .900 save percentage and he absolutely lost us game 1. Ullmark was signed not just as an upgrade over Korpse, but as a gamebreaking goalie.

He can still be that and I'm expecting more games where he doesn't let in more than 2g going forward

 

[Loach]

Scoring was our biggest issue imo

After that I'd say it was Ullmark. Too many games with a sub .900 save percentage and he absolutely lost us game 1. Ullmark was signed not just as an upgrade over Korpse, but as a gamebreaking goalie.

He can still be that and I'm expecting more games where he doesn't let in more than 2g going forward

Refs cost us game 1. It was so bad that the effects carried over into game 2. By the time the guys realized idiots weren't in charge of the game and they could just play hockey, it was too late and they were down by 2 goals. Such a joke.