Player Discussion Linus Ullmark (G)

lancepitlick

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5 goals on 19 shots is plain terrible and not what you need to win games. You shouldn't have to score 6 goals and restrict the other team to 14 shots to win a game. Ullmark knows that and has to be better. Simple as that.
 
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LuckyPierre

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That was ugly. His play reminded me of Emery vs Buffalo game 1 in 2006 where there were no saves in the crucial parts of the game. It felt as though the late Flyer goals were inevitable, and not because the team play was poor.

He needs a solid bounce back performance.

Let's also keep in mind that Bobrovsky was a liability in Florida until he wasn't. We know the talent is there with Ullmark.
 

Neil Patrick Harris

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Start him Saturday. He'll bounce back.
 

Tuna99

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the idea was that his ~250 games prior to becoming a Sen are sufficiently indicative of his talent level and future performance and we wouldn't learn much in the grand scheme of things from 10 games this season?

He did win the Vezina and lead his team to a record points and lost his starters job the next season, bet that’s never happened before
 

Pierre from Orleans

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Hasn't really played up to the price tag and hype yet.

In years past you can blame the defense for leaving the goalie out to dry on some nights but for the most part the guys have been playing relatively well defensively
 
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Tuna99

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Hasn't really played up to the price tag and hype yet.

In years past you can blame the defense for leaving the goalie out to dry on some nights but for the most part the guys have been playing relatively well defensively

The amount of explaining going on right now, Ullmark cost is the game and he’s cost us other games, that’s the truth. Don’t care what he did in Buffalo or Boston, like I don’t care what Noah Gregor did in Toronto or Nic Kensen did in Washington, I want a Ullmark performing for my team and I want to celebrate his wins in Ottawa and not intellectualize his work in Buffalo or Boston - don’t care because I only care about my team and today.
 

BonHoonLayneCornell

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The amount of explaining going on right now, Ullmark cost is the game and he’s cost us other games, that’s the truth. Don’t care what he did in Buffalo or Boston, like I don’t care what Noah Gregor did in Toronto or Nic Kensen did in Washington, I want a Ullmark performing for my team and I want to celebrate his wins in Ottawa and not intellectualize his work in Buffalo or Boston - don’t care because I only care about my team and today.
What else are you gonna do? Commiserate? What needs to be said has been said and these are just those hard in between moments of waiting between games after a tough end to the last one. These losses sting.

He needs to be better. He knows it, everyone else knows it, but he also had 2 solid games just before this, so it's not quite the train wreck some would imply. At least he takes some personal responsibility for it unlike Korpisalo last year, and he actually has a track record of success unlike all the other goalies brought in over the last 6 or so years, which should give some reason for optimism that wasn't really there for the other options tried.
 

Micklebot

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He did win the Vezina and lead his team to a record points and lost his starters job the next season, bet that’s never happened before
Well, he split games pretty evenly the next season, not exactly lost his starter's job.

Lindbergh in Philly won the Vezina in 85 and only played 8 games in 86, but that was because he died in a car crash.

Fleury won the Vezina in 2021, and promptly traded away right afterwards.

Those are the closest I can come up with. In the end, it's pretty rare to have two vezina caliber goalies on the same team,.
 

Tuna99

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What else are you gonna do? Commiserate? What needs to be said has been said and these are just those hard in between moments of waiting between games after a tough end to the last one. These losses sting.

He needs to be better. He knows it, everyone else knows it, but he also had 2 solid games just before this, so it's not quite the train wreck some would imply. At least he takes some personal responsibility for it unlike Korpisalo last year, and he actually has a track record of success unlike all the other goalies brought in over the last 6 or so years, which should give some reason for optimism that wasn't really there for the other options tried.

inconsistency has haunted this team and was the only buzz word 6 weeks ago. Now fans and media telling us to not believe our eyes

Nobody knows of Ullmark is going to have a good season - Bob looked horrible 2 season ago, Helleybuck disappears for long stretches - you’d have to be stupid not to be concerned. This isn’t the age of Marty Brodeur - goalies regularly go entire seasons playing poorly and we’ve seen that here in Ottawa last year, and the year before that.

Florida didn’t also not make the playoffs 2 years ago because Bob was horrid. It’s a real thing

Well, he split games pretty evenly the next season, not exactly lost his starter's job.

Lindbergh in Philly won the Vezina in 85 and only played 8 games in 86, but that was because he died in a car crash.

Fleury won the Vezina in 2021, and promptly traded away right afterwards.

Those are the closest I can come up with. In the end, it's pretty rare to have two vezina caliber goalies on the same team,.

Whoever starts in the playoffs is the starter, he lost the starting job
 

Alex1234

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Hamonic wears that loss more than Ullmark, many defensive breakdowns too.
More on the coach for playing Harmonic then...
Staios for keeping him ...
We can go on

But I know you get what I mean
The guy took blame for the loss
I think he knows better than we do
 

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