Line Combos: Lines you expect to see vs what you want to see

Henkka

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It has been now 2 games with same lines, without any suffling, and it looks pretty good as a whole:

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Car - Larkin - Kane (takes most o-zone starts)
Berg - Kasp - Tank (takes 2nd most o-zone starts)
Copp - Comp - Ray (takes 3rd most o-zone starts)
Ras - Veleno - Fischer (has taken zero o-zone starts)
 
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SirloinUB

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Last night was the most confident Albert Johansson has looked in my viewings. He was really calm and did a great job creating time and space for teammates. Loved his performance.
 
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19 for president

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Cat Larkin Kane
Kasper Compher Raymond
Berggren Copp Tank

Said it in the GDT, I want Kasper and Copp to switch places. Let Marco focus on offense.

It's nice that Copp is putting up some points, but Marco is way more important to the future of this team. Copp can take Kane's shifts at the end of games to get his empty netters.
I also don't love what a Copp-Compher-Ray line does for Ray's offensive production. He may be our best player offensively and now you'd essentially stapled him to a checking line.

In that sense maybe you dump the guy struggling to score/ create changes with Compher and Copp and put Ray with Kasper and Berg. That way Kasper can still develop at Center while being on an offensively minded line. Ray is decent enough defensively that I think this line could work with Berg giving good effort defensively.

Berg-Kasper-Ray
Copp-Compher-Tank
 

Henkka

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I also don't love what a Copp-Compher-Ray line does for Ray's offensive production. He may be our best player offensively and now you'd essentially stapled him to a checking line.

Are we building a best possible team-effort for Detroit Red Wings, or best possible career output for Lucas Raymond?

Which one is priority one?
 

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Are we building a best possible team-effort for Detroit Red Wings, or best possible career output for Lucas Raymond?

Which one is priority one?
I don't think you can look at one exclusively from the other. You pay Raymond 8 million to put up points. Significantly hampering the offensive output of your best or 2nd best (Larks) offensive player is probably not in a teams best interest long term. You only have so much cap space so you need the guys to score that you pay to score. I'm not advocating for a don't play defense cherry pick approach but you need to utilize players in a way that optimizes their output.

This isn't to say if a scoring guy is totally bombing out don't give him the ole Scotty treatment and stick him in a checking role to get him back attuned with other aspects of the game. Ray hasn't been bombing though. (Why I'm not opposed to swapping him with Tank, who has been struggling)

Right now its semi working because Copp is on a little bit of a tear offensively, but historically he is streaky at best. If that line stops scoring it is a problem because 1 scoring line NHL teams don't typically win. If the Berg-Kasper-Tank line takes off offensively, fine I get the team over the individual line, but until you have a semi consistent 2nd scoring line I think you see if you do what you can to develop some additional scoring chemistry.
 

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