Line Combos: Lines you expect to see vs what you want to see

[TheOctopusKid]

The big changes here is obviously dropping Tarasenko from the 2nd line. He and Kane cannot be on the same line.

Effort aside, because I do believe they both try, but neither can honestly play defense to save their life and both just lack any real pace/speed with any consistency and it just creates far too much of a liability. PP? Sure, but they just don't mess very well stylistically and Kane ends up trying to slow pace of play to make a slick pass, Tarasenko ends up waiting around and hoping, and there is little to now help to Compher/Kasper in puck retrieval, pressure, passing, etc.

I wouldn't have thought of adding in Copp in place of Tarasenko, but overall the line made a difference and the pieces defintely worked better. I'm not sure what we do with Tarasenko going forward, but keeping him off of the line with Kane (other than the PP) is a priority as they just weren't working as a 2nd line.

The other major bit here is to get AlJo up full time. He continues to defer and places Right, despite his natural position is Left. I still hope that AlJo can move to pair with Seider before the end of the season, Ed and Holl man the second, and let the rest duke it out for bottom pair for 15min less or situational.

I hope by the end of the year we see:

Debrincat - Larkin - Raymond
Compher - Kasper - Kane
Rasmussen - Copp - Berggren/Tarasenko
Fischer - Veleno - Motte

Johansson - Seider
Edvinsson - Holl
Chiarot - Petry
Mattaa

 

[lilidk]

End of the season
Cat Larkin Raymond
Copp Compher Kane
Berggren Kasper Mazur
Motte Fischer Veleno
Ed- Seider
Chiarot Petry
AJo Holl
Trade Maatta, Rasmussen, Tarasenko and trade one of the goaltender, probably Lyon

 

[Pavels Dog]

Trading for Rasmus Andersson would make so much sense and solve so many problems.

 

[Henkka]

The big changes here is obviously dropping Tarasenko from the 2nd line. He and Kane cannot be on the same line.

It did start instantly working with Berggren, when Tarasenko was moved to his natural RW side and Berggren can feed him from left.

Now our season is finally starting. First line is working and somewhow that weird Copp-Compher-Kane is also effective.

Let's keep this.

DeBrincat - Larkin - Raymond
Copp - Compher - Kane
Berggren - Kasper - Tarasenko
Rasmussen - Veleno - Fischer

Like what did really happen, is how Kasper gave us an extra center and that made possible to move Copp on the wing.

 

[schuelma24]

Trading for Rasmus Andersson would make so much sense and solve so many problems.

Definitely does in the short term..just wouldn't want to go crazy asset wise because I can't see him as part of the core long term, unless he can play on his left?

 

[Henkka]

Definitely does in the short term..just wouldn't want to go crazy asset wise because I can't see him as part of the core long term, unless he can play on his left?

Why should he play on the left?

We have only two RDs on long-term plans, Seider and ASP. Andersson would be the 3rd one.

In two years, there's no Chiarot, Määttä, Gustafsson, Petry or Holl.

These could be left

Edvinsson_L - Seider_R
Johansson_L - Andersson_R
Wallinder_L/Buium_L - ASP_R

Trade one lefty away to complete the long-term handnesses.

 

[schuelma24]

Why should he play on the left?

We have only two RDs on long-term plans, Seider and ASP. Andersson would be the 3rd one.

In two years, there's no Chiarot, Määttä, Gustafsson, Petry.

These could be left

Edvinsson_L - Seider_R
Johansson_L - Andersson_R
Wallinder_L/Buium_L - ASP_R

Trade one lefty away to complete the long-term handnesses.

I’m thinking long term - ASP is on second pair. Would we want to resign Andersson to be 3rd pair?

 

[19 for president]

It did start instantly working with Berggren, when Tarasenko was moved to his natural RW side and Berggren can feed him from left.

Now our season is finally starting. First line is working and somewhow that weird Copp-Compher-Kane is also effective.

Let's keep this.

DeBrincat - Larkin - Raymond
Copp - Compher - Kane
Berggren - Kasper - Tarasenko
Rasmussen - Veleno - Fischer

Like what did really happen, is how Kasper gave us an extra center and that made possible to move Copp on the wing.

Dropping Tank to the 3rd makes a lot of sense. A lot of Florida people were saying he isn't good on his off wing and he looked better on the 3rd line than when they moved him up the lineup. He looks to have decent chemistry with Berggren too.

I can't see Copp not centering a line just for his faceoff ability alone. Compher has actually been pretty trash as F/Os since becoming a Wing so I could see Copp landing that spot and moving Compher to wing.

I could also see Ras-Comper-Kane and Veleno-Copp-Fisher.

This is the issue you run into when you have a lot of semi one dimensional wingers. Tank, Berg, DBC, and Kane are all pretty much offensive wingers. DBC tries the most defensively but he is so small that he just isn't super effective. Kane at least is good at pick pocketing in the neutral zone but the minute you cross the blue line is is fairly useless.

If we had a really solid defense this wouldn't be as much of an issue, but we do not. Not landing that top 4 dman this off season hurts.

 

[Henkka]

I’m thinking long term - ASP is on second pair. Would we want to resign Andersson to be 3rd pair?

Somebody has to be.

Let's have 3 strong pairs and the future best defence at NHL.

 

[SantosHalper]

That what i was looking for, shuffle the deck. Before Kasper was called up i had a similar wild idea.
Cat - Larkin - Tank
Bergy - Ras - Ray
Copp - JT - Kane
Motte - Veleno - Fischer

You can thank later, Fester.

 

[Frk It]

This is how I would set it up, I think Kane and Petry need to have their roles reduced.

DeBrincat-Larkin-Raymond
Tarasenko-JT-Kasper
Fischer-Copp-Kane
Rasmussen-Veleno-Berggren
Motte


Ed-Seider
Chiarot-Johansson
Maatta-Gus/Petry
Holl

 

[The Zermanator]

This is how I would set it up, I think Kane and Petry need to have their roles reduced.

DeBrincat-Larkin-Raymond
Tarasenko-JT-Kasper
Fischer-Copp-Kane
Rasmussen-Veleno-Berggren
Motte


Ed-Seider
Chiarot-Johansson
Maatta-Gus/Petry
Holl

I like this lineup, though I would swap Fischer and Berggren. It's sink or swim time for the latter and he doesn't have a purpose on that 4th line. Put him with Kane and maybe they can develop some chemistry together, with Copp as their piano-puller.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Our D pairing the rest of the season should be as follows

1st pair: Edvinsson/seider
2nd pair: Johansson/holl
3rd pair: chiarot/petry
7d: Gus (hopefully he never sees the ice unless injury)

 

[Henkka]

1st pair: Edvinsson/Seider
2nd pair: Johansson/Trouba
3rd pair: Gustafsson/Holl or Petry
7-8d: Lagesson

 

[wingsfannn919191]

Our D pairing the rest of the season should be as follows

1st pair: Edvinsson/seider
2nd pair: Johansson/holl
3rd pair: chiarot/petry
7d: Gus (hopefully he never sees the ice unless injury)

so depressing lol

 

[wingsfannn919191]

Because this seasons too depressing... next years lines ...

Trade for hague
Trade for zegras(I know I know know happen )

I would definetly trade for hague and sign him asap (vegas wont be able to keep him)

Debrincat larkin raymond
Zegras Kasper tarasenko
Mazur Danielson compher
Rasmusen veleno Copp

Edvinsson seider
Hague pellikka
Chiarot Johansson
Holl


Talbot
Cossa

 

[SirloinUB]

so depressing lol

You're a glass half full kinda person I see.

I look at that and see 3 of our future Dmen playing significant minutes and that's exciting. WIth ASP developing well in Sweden, and guys like Wallinder in the AHL I love the direction the D is trending in. It's a slow burn but its starting to come together.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

You're a glass half full kinda person I see.

I look at that and see 3 of our future Dmen playing significant minutes and that's exciting. WIth ASP developing well in Sweden, and guys like Wallinder in the AHL I love the direction the D is trending in. It's a slow burn but its starting to come together.

Agreed. I'm hardly a pollyanna but people complained about Kasper not being in the opening lineup. Now he's playing. People complained about Johanssen not getting more of a look. Now he's getting that.

I haven't seen a lot of acknowledgment of it. Now it's just back to how much Copp and Chiarot suck.

This forum has gotten so negative that now I'm apparently an optimist here. lol

 

[wingsfannn919191]

You're a glass half full kinda person I see.

I look at that and see 3 of our future Dmen playing significant minutes and that's exciting. WIth ASP developing well in Sweden, and guys like Wallinder in the AHL I love the direction the D is trending in. It's a slow burn but its starting to come together.

I'm talking about this seasons roster when I say depressing. As our d core love seider and edvinsson and pellikka's potential. Like johansson but hes just getting started so nothing is assured

Rest of our prospects at defense wallinder and buium are best ones atm. Again nothing is guaranteed nothing would make me happier to see wallinder be a big player and post up 20-35 pts. I'm saying we have to add some more d's in the pipeline

Last year we drafted a dman in rounds 5 and 7. I'd be pushing to add hague from vegas. 6'5 250 pds and 26 yrs old. He's a perfect target since vegas cant afford him

 

[lilidk]

DBC Larkin Raymond
Mazur Kasper Berggren
Copp Compher Kane
Motte Fischer Veleno
Edvinsson Seider
Rasmussen AJo
Petry Holl
Trade Tarasenko, Gus and Chiarot. Rasmussen big and strong, slower this season, good defensively. Why not try him on defense

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

DBC Larkin Raymond
Mazur Kasper Berggren
Copp Compher Kane
Motte Fischer Veleno
Edvinsson Seider
Rasmussen AJo
Petry Holl
Trade Tarasenko, Gus and Chiarot. Rasmussen big and strong, slower this season, good defensively. Why not try him on defense

holy crack pipe, batman! what did i just hallucinate??

 

[lilidk]

holy crack pipe, batman! what did i just hallucinate??

I don't like Ras this season and I don't like most of defansman we have, try something different or trade him

 

[Gniwder]

I don't like Ras this season and I don't like most of defansman we have, try something different or trade him

Raz doesn't skate backwards or pivot well enough. We don't need to see him trip backwards over the blue line.

Raz will become a lot more necessary when Kasper gets sent down, my O/U is a dozen more games. Stevie will make the decision once he gets a bigger sample size.

I think the lines will stay the same for the next few games because Fester knows his job is on the line.

 

[Snuggs]

Trading for Rasmus Andersson would make so much sense and solve so many problems.

This is a really good idea but I'm not sure most fans around here are ready to cough up something like a 1st round pick, roster player and high prospect.

 

[Winger98]

This is a really good idea but I'm not sure most fans around here are ready to cough up something like a 1st round pick, roster player and high prospect.

I'm not sure why Calgary would be dealing him right now. They are off to a decent start, he's signed very cheaply for another year, and they should have the cap space to re-sign him. Maybe he wants out and won't sign, but I don't see Calgary wanting to rebuild right now.