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EF on Lindy: "He is ecstatic."
"They couldn't have hired a person who wanted to be the head coach of the Sabres more than Lindy Ruff."
"They didn't waste people's time" is also a comment in there.
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Confirmed with Link: Lindy Ruff named Head Coach, Press Conference at 1:00 PM EDT
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Starts here:
EF on Lindy: "He is ecstatic."
"They couldn't have hired a person who wanted to be the head coach of the Sabres more than Lindy Ruff."
"They didn't waste people's time" is also a comment in there.
Doug Prishpreed
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Starts here:
EF on Lindy: "He is ecstatic."
"They couldn't have hired a person who wanted to be the head coach of the Sabres more than Lindy Ruff."
"They didn't waste people's time" is also a comment in there.
Sometimes it helps to listen to people before vilifying them. Friendman's take on this is more reasonable than most.
He's also correct more than anyone who's worked for Buffalo the past the years, so shitting on him to defend Pegula and Adams seems like misdirected anger.
Doug Prishpreed
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It didn't seem like you were, it wasn't aimed at you. A lot of folks were mad at him on here for the reasons he explains on the podcast though.
Ah, okay. The coffee hasn't seeped into the folds yet.
This appears that both are right - Adams spun that he spoke with a bunch of people about the position AND that doesn't constitute what teams who are normally doing an exhaustive search do. The upside for Buffalo is getting right to the person they were already leaning toward who has a drive to be the coach of the team and see it succeed, has recent history working with young and offensively gifted players, and is also going to be inexpensive due to his old NJ contract. The downside is in failing to do intel work on other teams or from other coaches, the optics of again being expedient instead of thorough, and perhaps missing opportunities for that information or finding another candidate who may be a better tactician or task master.
I'm still chuckling over the "they didn't waste anyone's time" thing. Marek mentioned that some guys do complain that teams only interview them for info on their old employers.
joshjull
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Yep. But that doesn’t cleanly fit narratives so ….Ah, okay. The coffee hasn't seeped into the folds yet.
This appears that both are right - Adams spun that he spoke with a bunch of people about the position AND that doesn't constitute what teams who are normally doing an exhaustive search do. The upside for Buffalo is getting right to the person they were already leaning toward who has a drive to be the coach of the team and see it succeed, has recent history working with young and offensively gifted players, and is also going to be inexpensive due to his old NJ contract. The downside is in failing to do intel work on other teams or from other coaches, the optics of again being expedient instead of thorough, and perhaps missing opportunities for that information or finding another candidate who may be a better tactician or task master.
I'm still chuckling over the "they didn't waste anyone's time" thing. Marek mentioned that some guys do complain that teams only interview them for info on their old employers.
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Ace
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Lindy was on Sabres live with Marty today and he brought up seeing Peterka in the AHL playoffs and thinking he was the best player on either team. I think he’s going to like him. He’s not one of the players I’m worried about. He produced in the NHL but he was a better player under Appert IMO. Funny how that happens.
True true. It's possible it exists in the middle and to Adams, he thinks the work he did was sufficient. Looking at the staff, Adams's AGM has gone through the recycling process in Carolina when they brought back Maurice, and the replacement of Johnson with Sullivan in Pittsburgh plus the replacement of Maurice 1.0 with Laviolette. I just wish they had more experience in their front office...
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Doug Prishpreed
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Another thing to note is that they did an exhaustive interview process the last two times, and it didn't exactly work out great. Why keep doing the same thing, especially if you know who you want? Adams is putting his name/job on the line, he's going to do what he thinks will give him the best shot at success. Who cares how he arrived there?Ah, okay. The coffee hasn't seeped into the folds yet.
This appears that both are right - Adams spun that he spoke with a bunch of people about the position AND that doesn't constitute what teams who are normally doing an exhaustive search do. The upside for Buffalo is getting right to the person they were already leaning toward who has a drive to be the coach of the team and see it succeed, has recent history working with young and offensively gifted players, and is also going to be inexpensive due to his old NJ contract. The downside is in failing to do intel work on other teams or from other coaches, the optics of again being expedient instead of thorough, and perhaps missing opportunities for that information or finding another candidate who may be a better tactician or task master.
I'm still chuckling over the "they didn't waste anyone's time" thing. Marek mentioned that some guys do complain that teams only interview them for info on their old employers.
Probably pissed off a lot of people in the process too last time, if they weren't serious -- like you say. There's nothing that pisses me off more than attending an interview when they already know who they're going to hire...almost as much as I hate conducting them when I know who I want to hire because of some mandated process. It wastes everyone's time and leaves a lot of bad feeling in the wake.
The only potential weak links on the team IMO are Skinner, Joki, and Krebs. And two of them (Krebs + Joki) might be fine under a different coach. One of them (Joki) probably won't even be on the team to begin with.
My main worry are the players that aren't there yet. Our success will be determined by the 2-4 players Adams brings in. He can't whiff again there.
It very much mirrors many hiring practices now - have no intention of hiring from outside but put on a dumbshow of going through the process as a future justification all the while intending to just give the position to someone they already had sought. Not like I know much about this.
I will say I'm still ambivalent about it. The good and the bad mostly balance out for me, he's here now so it's a matter of seeing them get to work to fix what needs fixing and leverage what was working to be better. In a vacuum, an experienced guy who has recent history of getting very good in-zone chance generation undercut by his tenders' inability to give that team saves seems like the answer to my annual complaint that this team relies too much on rush chances instead of settle offense.
Elsewhere, Lambert has not responded. I wasn't expecting any response. I'm sitting with the band kid at the gifted lunch table that the analytics preppies are going to throw food at while pretending they're important.
Talking about getting "dirtier goals" is music to my ears. And the forwards helping more in the defensive zone.
Please, please make this work.
Biron talking about Ruff making change on the fly in-game is fascinating.
"During the year there isn't a lot of change to the system... that system has to be in place when camp starts."
"During the year there isn't a lot of change to the system... that system has to be in place when camp starts."
The Bill Burr thing about Lindy in Marty's clip - one of the first signs I ever saw (back when they let signs in) was against the Rangers and "Ruff is, Playfair doesn't". My inner dad jokes were appeased that day. That game also featured a helmetless Ron Dugauy and Berry Beck having an egg thrown at them during warmups from the oranges. Anyway... old. Yes.
MeenOlViks
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Lindy: "already going through the (defensive) chances with the coaches" - oh to be a fly on the wall for that conversation. James Patrick, come on down.
CaliSabresfan24
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The boys shit on the hire for the most part. Think its a lazy hire and Adams job is on the line.
Biz thinks another young, out of the box hire made more sense...
I f***ing hate how Murrs is considered the "Sabres guys" but doesn't know anything about the team..
Biz thinks another young, out of the box hire made more sense...
I f***ing hate how Murrs is considered the "Sabres guys" but doesn't know anything about the team..
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I don’t know how anyone could watch this Sabres team and think they need young and out of the box behind the bench.
They literally begged for exactly this publicly.
People just can not handle that the guy who legit fit best with what they’ve built and what they need coached here before. It’s madness. They were supposed to hire a worse fit and bigger risk because…he coached here before? The man was a Jack Adams finalist the last f***ing time the award was handed out.
They literally begged for exactly this publicly.
People just can not handle that the guy who legit fit best with what they’ve built and what they need coached here before. It’s madness. They were supposed to hire a worse fit and bigger risk because…he coached here before? The man was a Jack Adams finalist the last f***ing time the award was handed out.
Wilford having a on-the-spot interview I imagine too.
Hockey bros don't like it? Whatever.
Say they did something wild like Carle or Ronnberg from Frolunda (clearing the way for Dahl's dad to move up)... you can't tell me they wouldn't be dumping on that like a heavy industry into a landfill too.
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Lindy mentions how innovative Darcy Reiger was with video lol
Too innovative Lindy
Too innovative Lindy
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I was not pleased with a lot of their defense backsliding this year so I know I'm biased. I also didn't like Marty's work in Anaheim or them turfing him because they didn't like his work. But... Ruff may think he's doing the right things. His interview with Biron mentioned the forwards being better in their own zone and that's like music to my ears. Getting it out of them... let's see if it happens.
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The Bill Burr thing about Lindy in Marty's clip - one of the first signs I ever saw (back when they let signs in) was against the Rangers and "Ruff is, Playfair doesn't". My inner dad jokes were appeased that day. That game also featured a helmetless Ron Dugauy and Berry Beck having an egg thrown at them during warmups from the oranges. Anyway... old. Yes.
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