GDT: LIII | "On Repe-pe-pe-pe-peat" | Oilers @ Habs | 10:30AM | 2.12.23 | SNW

It All Came Down To This

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AddyTheWrath

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Here come the dumb Drai comments again. This fanbase is so critical of its star players. But I'm sure to hear lots mroe of it. Drai got hammered in that period multiple times and its slows you down. Just becuase you survive contact doesnt mean it doesn't impact. Anybody here that was hammered like Drai was with 2mins left in period would be out of the game. That hit didn't tickle, and its effect is felt.

Terrible play by Skinner on the GA. for the second time in last half dozen games he fails to freeze a puck that is right there for him. WTF was he doing? Of course seconds later is causes a GA.
Don't know how your takeaway from that period is "Draisaitl doesn't deserve criticism but Skinner does."

One was horrendous, forcing multiple plays, skating right into traffic and turning the puck over per his MO as of late and the other is the only reason it's still a 1 goal game.
 

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Bunch of no name plugs skating circles around Edmonton

These guys must be pouting they had to play early on superbowl Sunday
Habs request to play Oilers on Superbowl I heard. This is not the first time they've played on Superbowl and it's been in Montreal
 

CupofOil

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As bad as the oilers were that should be a 0-0 period. Skinner created that goal. That was all on Skinner.
He should have froze the puck no doubt but it was a fire drill in own zone that led to it. I see too much Skinner scapegoating lately that's largely unwarranted because the team has played poorly defensively and offensively in front of him the last few starts.
 

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I think they‘ll only be better come Play-off time. They seem built for the post-season. Doesn’t hurt they have a goalie who can shut a team down cold over a 7 game series.
Yeah I shouldn’t have counted out the Helly factor. Having just an insane season. I do think their window is about 2-3 years. Lots of their guys are getting older. But yeah they are looking pretty good. Better than I thought they would.
 

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It seems to be by design. Hyman in his spot at the crease, RNH bumper, Draisaitl in his shooting position and Mcdavid the only one allowed to move around the ice.

When Drai isn’t automatic from that absurd angle and instead is golfing them over the net like he has been lately, the whole pp goes dark.
I understand their PP formation and intent. Too often players like Draisaitl can slip into slow puck movement when he's along the boards and goes into the slow spin move and same with Barrie holding on to the puck too long. That's usually when McDavid finally takes control of the puck and looks for penetration opportunities. Fast, crisp puck movement and this PP is hard to stop with all the options. When it slows down defenders have ability to disrupt.
 
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Here come the dumb Drai comments again. This fanbase is so critical of its star players. But I'm sure to hear lots mroe of it. Drai got hammered in that period multiple times and its slows you down. Just becuase you survive contact doesnt mean it doesn't impact. Anybody here that was hammered like Drai was with 2mins left in period would be out of the game. That hit didn't tickle, and its effect is felt.

Terrible play by Skinner on the GA. for the second time in last half dozen games he fails to freeze a puck that is right there for him. WTF was he doing? Of course seconds later is causes a GA.

It is possible to recognize him as possibly the second best player in the world, and also as someone who has been playing like a dog's ass for the last few weeks, at the same time. It's a long season, players will go through stretches like this. It doesn't mean people have given up on him, but I think fans have the right to call out lazy and/or careless play when they see it.
 
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iCanada

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The Oilers have been off their game more than on since the break, which should surprise nobody since long breaks are the Oilers kryptonite.

Eh, to quote Martin St Louis "it's an 80% league."

Teams like the Habs are always going to have their 100% for a game against a team like the Oilers that have two of the best in the world and are currently the hottest team in the league by a mile. The Oilers are the club everyone else is circling on the schedule saying they need to manage their load so these guys don't embarrass them.

A team like the Oilers is usually going to be 80% against a team like the Habs, thought being it's more efficient to save load for more meaningful games.

How many times did we knock off the pens caps or Hawks during the decade of darkness?
 

Zerotonine

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Did you not watch the first period? It was an absolute tire fire. Kulak should be on the 3rd pairing and the Oilers should have a 2nd pairing LD to take some minutes from Nurse and shelter whoever their RD partner would be.
Yeah I watched the period. Skinner made some decent saves but he is fighting the puck a bit. And really fighting handling it. Almost flubbed another one but was able to poke check puck to corner this time
 

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Skinner second best goalie in this game after 1
That's one way of looking at it. Or maybe the Oilers were clearly the second best team in this game after 1. I think the latter is more of a factor than Skinner's play which by my eye was fairly good aside from not being clairvoyant and knowing that Kulak would play the puck into him when there was no need for him to.

How dare he not be able to read his D's mind (nevermind that nobody else would have predicted or recommended that play) and then couldn't save a screened shot top shelf from the slot. Yeah...not really a fair take on Skinner's play.
 
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VainGretzky

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That first period should serve as a reminder of just how badly this team needs to shore up its defence if they’re serious about making a run come Play-off time.
I hate this analogy after a goal every team in the league has multiple gaffs like that in front of the net during the season
 
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Zerotonine

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Edmonton picked it up near the end of the period, but based off that period I see Allen putting up 40 saves tonight

And Drai is seriously struggling lately. It's getting seriously noticeable
 

Drivesaitl

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It is possible to recognize him as possibly the second best player in the world, and also as someone who has been playing like a dog's as for the last few weeks, at the same time. It's a long season, players will go through stretches like this. It doesn't mean people have given up on him, but I think fans have the right to call out lazy and/or careless play when they see it.
Just yesterday people here on the same board were commenting that Drai had a good game. Do people play hockey? Drai got belted on the boards 3 times in that period. Do you think that might impact him or do you think he has some kind of forcefield where he can just withstand anything? Drai is playing through injury for a calendar year and when you get rocked it hurts. Habs are taking the body against him, they're not even looking for the puck, and its the right way to play Drai. Sometimes I credit opponent.

What did Drai actually do badly in that period. He really is public enemy #1 on this board. Its disgusting and fans being ingrates. "what have you done for me today" garbage.
 

GMofOilers

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That's one way of looking at it. Or maybe the Oilers were clearly the second best team in this game after 1. I think the latter is more of a factor than Skinner's play which by my eye was fairly good aside from not being clairvoyant and knowing that Kulak would play the puck into him when there was no need for him to.

How dare he not be able to read his D's mind (nevermind that nobody else would have predicted or recommended that play) and then couldn't save a screened shot top shelf from the slot. Yeah...not really a fair take on Skinner's play.
Lets hope hes the better goalie in periods 2 and 3 when the team needs him to be.
 
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Ibanez

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Why whenever Draisatl plays like shit, people speculate an injury?

He has had a poor season by his standards. His 5V5 is a problem.
He had a good game yesterday. Hopefully was just a bad period after heavy amounts of poutine last night
 

Drivesaitl

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Don't know how your takeaway from that period is "Draisaitl doesn't deserve criticism but Skinner does."

One was horrendous, forcing multiple plays, skating right into traffic and turning the puck over per his MO as of late and the other is the only reason it's still a 1 goal game.
WTF did DRai do wrong in that period to deserve such scorn? The scapegoating of Drai nearly every game now is immense. It has been for years. I've asked multiple times and nobody even saying what their specific complaint is.
 

Stoneman89

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What the hell was Kulak doing on that goal?:huh: Clear the freaking puck, man!
Just got on here, and can't believe some people on Skinner's case. He's keeping us in the game people!
Another sleepy start and the Oiler PP going cutesy pootsy again, looking for the perfect highlight play when they should be shooting it and clogging the net. Hopefully they pick it up in the 2nd.
 

Ibanez

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It’s interesting, I never met Ben, but his short life made an impact upon me with the relationship with the Team. Great work by the organization to continue his legacy & raise funds for the cause.
Yes. That boy brought the whole city and fan base together to talk about something and share in the experience.

Special boy he was. Keep the good vibes with him going. Play la bamba baby should live in infamy. Never change the win song…
 

CycloneSweep

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Here come the dumb Drai comments again. This fanbase is so critical of its star players. But I'm sure to hear lots mroe of it. Drai got hammered in that period multiple times and its slows you down. Just becuase you survive contact doesnt mean it doesn't impact. Anybody here that was hammered like Drai was with 2mins left in period would be out of the game. That hit didn't tickle, and its effect is felt.

Terrible play by Skinner on the GA. for the second time in last half dozen games he fails to freeze a puck that is right there for him. WTF was he doing? Of course seconds later is causes a GA.
When 90% of our success is based on 2 players, those 2 players will have most of the positive and negative comments about them.
Just yesterday people here on the same board were commenting that Drai had a good game. Do people play hockey? Drai got belted on the boards 3 times in that period. Do you think that might impact him or do you think he has some kind of forcefield where he can just withstand anything? Drai is playing through injury for a calendar year and when you get rocked it hurts. Habs are taking the body against him, they're not even looking for the puck, and its the right way to play Drai. Sometimes I credit opponent.

What did Drai actually do badly in that period. He really is public enemy #1 on this board. Its disgusting and fans being ingrates. "what have you done for me today" garbage.
again, if Drai is playing thru an injury he needs to ducking sit to fully heal so by the time we hit the playoffs he isn’t useless.
 

GreeningOil

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Eh, to quote Martin St Louis "it's an 80% league."

Teams like the Habs are always going to have their 100% for a game against a team like the Oilers that have two of the best in the world and are currently the hottest team in the league by a mile. The Oilers are the club everyone else is circling on the schedule saying they need to manage their load so these guys don't embarrass them.

A team like the Oilers is usually going to be 80% against a team like the Habs, thought being it's more efficient to save load for more meaningful games.

How many times did we knock off the pens caps or Hawks during the decade of darkness?
I remember when we’d always blow out the Hawks. It was the only solace when we barely cracked 70 points or less
 
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WTF did DRai do wrong in that period to deserve such scorn? The scapegoating of Drai nearly every game now is immense. It has been for years. I've asked multiple times and nobody even saying what their specific complaint is.
What did he do to dissuade criticism? He didn’t contribute offensively and his line was tagged for a GA. Blew it into the glass on the PP.
 
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