Friedman: Lightning clearing space for Guentzel

[Empoleon8771]

Guentzel is obviously chasing money and Tampa gives him both state tax-free money (especially with his deal likely being bonus heavy) and a contending team. Tampa is also a pretty dope city to be living in, so I'm really not surprised here.

Nice work of business by the Lightning to both get a strong return for some of their expensive players and then be able to get a top FA to sign with them. Also the Canes to get a 3rd back for 1 day of negotiations seems like good value for them as well.

 

[Mattilaus]

Tampa is probably the nicest City I've ever been in. Can't blame Jake everyone at all for want to sign there.

 

[Hollel]

The admin certainly is treating this like a deal is already in place

For a 3rd I’d assume it’s locked up. But yeah still funny lol

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

Why not do a sign and trade if you’re giving up that much just to be able to officially lock him up a day early? Or is that part of it as well and we just haven’t heard yet?

 

[Flat Ronnie]

Guentzel is obviously chasing money and Tampa gives him both state tax-free money (especially with his deal likely being bonus heavy) and a contending team. Tampa is also a pretty dope city to be living in, so I'm really not surprised here.

Nice work of business by the Lightning to both get a strong return for some of their expensive players and then be able to get a top FA to sign with them. Also the Canes to get a 3rd back for 1 day of negotiations seems like good value for them as well.

People shouldn't sleep on this. There's a reason all these Lightning players that leave keep homes here, return with their family or ask for trades back.

Similar situation with Yankees players who have spring training here.

 

[StickShift]

Frankly I’m surprised that Tampa felt compelled to trade for his rights. Yesterday it seemed like a fait accompli that Guentzel would go to Tampa. This suggests to me that it is not a slam dunk and Tampa feels like they need exclusive time to talk with him.

The most likely scenario is still that he signs with Tampa—but, if this isn’t done by UFA tomorrow, maybe the Vancouver rumors were true all along?

 

[trellaine201]

The title of the tweet sounds like he was traded , his rights were traded lol

 

[Empoleon8771]

Frankly I’m surprised that Tampa felt compelled to trade for his rights. Yesterday it seemed like a fait accompli that Guentzel would go to Tampa. This suggests to me that it is not a slam dunk and Tampa feels like they need exclusive time to talk with him.

The most likely scenario is still that he signs with Tampa—but, if this isn’t done by UFA tomorrow, maybe the Vancouver rumors were true all along?

Tbh if I were in Guentzel's shoes, Vancouver would need to offer me way more money for me to pick Vancouver over Tampa.

Between the difference in taxes between the two and weather in Tampa versus Vancouver, I'd want a hell of a lot of money to pick Vancouver over Tampa.

 

[Darren McCord]

Frankly I’m surprised that Tampa felt compelled to trade for his rights. Yesterday it seemed like a fait accompli that Guentzel would go to Tampa. This suggests to me that it is not a slam dunk and Tampa feels like they need exclusive time to talk with him.

The most likely scenario is still that he signs with Tampa—but, if this isn’t done by UFA tomorrow, maybe the Vancouver rumors were true all along?

They can get the 8th year no?

 

[StickShift]

They can get the 8th year no?

No, only Carolina can offer 8 years. Tampa cannot. A player needs to be on a team’s reserve list at the prior TDL to be eligible for an 8-year contract. The only team that could have offered him eight years is Carolina.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

If Guentzel's ask was 8x8 weeks ago then Carolina really dropped the ball trying to negotiate that down.

Can Tampa offer him 8 years now? Or is it still 7 max

 

[Lempo]

No, only Carolina can offer 8 years. Tampa cannot. A player needs to be on a team’s reserve list at the prior TDL to be eligible for an 8-year contract. The only team that could have offered him eight years is Carolina.

... or someone paying Carolina for the privilege of signing him for 8 years.

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

Frankly I’m surprised that Tampa felt compelled to trade for his rights. Yesterday it seemed like a fait accompli that Guentzel would go to Tampa. This suggests to me that it is not a slam dunk and Tampa feels like they need exclusive time to talk with him.

The most likely scenario is still that he signs with Tampa—but, if this isn’t done by UFA tomorrow, maybe the Vancouver rumors were true all along?

We thought Hanifin was a done deal as well and we all know how that went.

 

[CaptainUgly]

Maybe Genutzel will get a tan now....

 

[trellaine201]

Tbh if I were in Guentzel's shoes, Vancouver would need to offer me way more money for me to pick Vancouver over Tampa.

Between the difference in taxes between the two and weather in Tampa versus Vancouver, I'd want a hell of a lot of money to pick Vancouver over Tampa.

We have excellent golf courses though

 

[StickShift]

IMO this has more to do with Tampa wanting to know if they can actually sign Guentzel (or not) and having that awareness now.

If Guentzel will sign—great for them. If he wants to go to market—they probably don’t want to risk losing him and Stamkos. It will give them the knowledge of whether they need to circle back to Stamkos or not before he listens to offers from Nashville or Detroit or whoever.

 

[More 2004]

Frankly I’m surprised that Tampa felt compelled to trade for his rights. Yesterday it seemed like a fait accompli that Guentzel would go to Tampa. This suggests to me that it is not a slam dunk and Tampa feels like they need exclusive time to talk with him.

The most likely scenario is still that he signs with Tampa—but, if this isn’t done by UFA tomorrow, maybe the Vancouver rumors were true all along?

It felt like Hanifin was a done deal, it felt like Karlsson was a done deal.. jbb made the right.move. go and get it. Don't wait for it to fall in your lap.