danincanada
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- Feb 11, 2008
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Lidstrom grew up in the 1970's and 1980's playing his youth hockey at that time. The numbers you cite seem like the composite youth hockey numbers for Canada, the USA and the remaining hockey playing nations. How 1.5 million kids playing hockey in 2011 may impact or be viewed as part of the competition that drives a 40+ year old NHL player would be interesting to see.
If we take Bobby Orr's last healthy season - 1974-75 he was playing in the context of 18 NHL teams + 14 WHA teams = 32 teams, while Lidstrom played the 2010-11 season in the context of 30 Nhl teams. Given the slight difference in roster sizes but appreciating the movement between leagues, it is rather obvious that participation in the elite North American hockey pond was almost identical, about 700 players. Both were their eras biggest defensive fish in a similar sized pond give or take a measuring cup.
You're right about the first point of course but if you want to look at when Lidstrom and Orr were born then the results would be similar IMO. Hockey has grown and has spread to more people over time and hopefully it will continue to do so. There's no denying there are many more people playing hockey now than in the past. For the most part it's been an upward trend since it's infancy. There are 500,000 registered players in the US right now compared to less than 200,000 20 years ago. Coaches and officials have grown in a similar fashion as well.
http://www.usahockey.com//Template_Usahockey.aspx?NAV=ME_03&ID=29074
As for the second paragrah, these leagues have all increased in size over time:
There are 23 KHL teams now compared to 9-12 in the RSL in the 70s and 80s.
There are 30 AHL teams now compared to 8-12 in the 70s plus 10 or so teams in the IHL.
There are 20 OHL teams now compared to 10-12 teams in the 70s.
There are 18 QMJHL teams now compared to 10 in the 70s.
There are 22 WHL teams now compared to 12 teams in the 70s.
They have all grown across the board and so has participation in hockey. The denial of this must stop. It's a bigger pond now and it's more difficult to stand out than ever. To pretend the opposite is true is absurd.