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Yeah, when I saw the name I thought, isn't that a daytime soap opera? I also liked the movie, it was original and kept me interested despite Tom Cruise, he wasn't too bad in the role.
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Yeah, when I saw the name I thought, isn't that a daytime soap opera? I also liked the movie, it was original and kept me interested despite Tom Cruise, he wasn't too bad in the role.
OneSharpMarble
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You don't like Cruise? The guy has been on point for almost the entirety of his career. How many of his movies can you even call "stinkers"?
You don't have to spoon him at night, why do you give a **** if he prays to aliens from another planet?
Do yourself a favor and go watch some of the stunts he performs himself for his movies, the guy is a machine.
Kimota
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Man it was so damn hard to finish! I was in the middle of the season and was trying to pull my eye-lids out trying to continue watching.
It's like a complete different show than seasons 1 & 2 were. (It does get a little better in the last three episodes, though). I wonder if it was done on purpose to pull back on the extreme stuff. But really when there's none of that, it seems like there's not enough to sustain the interest. I feel like the writer did in on purpose to see if he could do the show without the bad stuff but it backfired cause really it became the West Wing and I'm just not interested in that.
Sometime I wonder if it wouldn't have been more interesting if the whole show would have been about just some Evil Congressman. They didn't have to have him take more power in any way.
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I finally ended up watching "Is Paris Burning". Absolute mess of 165 minutes who should have been a 10 hour TV-Show... And yet, at times, it felt it was too long with some really, really pointless shots and scenes.
It's not bad. It's just a mess of an epic and an epic mess. Not to mention, the label Par des Franco-français, Pour les Franco-français probably applies, even if screen writers were as american as they come (Vidal/Coppola).
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Yeah Tom Cruise is great! The firm, Interview with a vampire, Jerry McGuire were not action movies and they were good as well.
Edge of Tomorrow was the best movie last summer, imo.
I like cruise the actor , cruise the person is a weird little man. I've seen probably all his films. Let's not praise him to death. Hiss stunts are terrific. Heard he did all for Rougue nation. Had made some stinkers though. Valkyrie , knight and day and jack reacher are just really not very good films. Ghost protocol is terrific though.
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Valkyrie is a decent film.
The reason it's a forgotten film is that western society isn't ready for a layered look at WW2 Germany.
It would have done better if Bryan Singer had added in some historically-inaccurate misgivings about the Holocaust.
The reason it's a forgotten film is that western society isn't ready for a layered look at WW2 Germany.
It would have done better if Bryan Singer had added in some historically-inaccurate misgivings about the Holocaust.
Kimota
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Well it's not that it was layered, just robotic and limited overall. It felt like a TV movie. I wish there would have been more meat to the story, maybe? I don't know if it's cause they stuck to the actual real story too much or if it's the angle they chose that was uncinematic but it failed to engage me.
Bear in mind I felt the same way with Apollo 13. I argued with a historian friend of mine that it was sort of bland and boring and should have done things differently and he said in a historical film it should stay faithful a 100% to what happened. I said well, then if there's no story there, don't make a movie. Cause some things are not filmable. Or you choose an angle from another point of view outside of the historical events so you don't have to be tied to what happened. So history is used to support your story instead of being a slave to it.
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I wrote that Valkyrie waa decent, no excellent. They could have carried more story, Bryan Singer is a very mediocre director, in this case the story was propped up by the underlying strength of the source material rather than the execution.
Apollo 13 is excellent. I have not looked into the historical accuracy.
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I watched The Godfather tonight. I had not seen it in ~10 years, so basically I had equivalently never seen it. I had forgotten the vast majority of the plot.
It's really good, a bit of an extra experience for me since I have a lot of Italian friends, I appreciate the authenticity with the accents. If Hollywood remade the Godfather today they might give the characters British accents to make tthem look foreign.
It's good to see a movie be worthy of its three hour plot line.
I read a nice comment on a movie blog today that Mexican cartels today are more interesting than the 1960s Italian cartels. I don't know if that's true, it might be. Point being, Denis Villeneuve's Sicario coming out soon has the potential to be great.
It's really good, a bit of an extra experience for me since I have a lot of Italian friends, I appreciate the authenticity with the accents. If Hollywood remade the Godfather today they might give the characters British accents to make tthem look foreign.
It's good to see a movie be worthy of its three hour plot line.
I read a nice comment on a movie blog today that Mexican cartels today are more interesting than the 1960s Italian cartels. I don't know if that's true, it might be. Point being, Denis Villeneuve's Sicario coming out soon has the potential to be great.
QuebecPride
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Nobody is forcing anyone to go watch anything, but the money is all thrown towards superhero movies while original content is put aside.
Producers are so scared of not making money that they'll finance known recycled stories over new ones.
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Watched Ex Machina last night, I have to start lowering my expectations of hyped movies these days
Movie was slow, painfully slow and the character interactions were random at best - which doesn't help when there's really only 3 characters for the whole movie
The story was interesting enough to keep me awake but not enough to save it for me
Movie was slow, painfully slow and the character interactions were random at best - which doesn't help when there's really only 3 characters for the whole movie
The story was interesting enough to keep me awake but not enough to save it for me
I remember reading Hugh Glass' story when I was young. He went through hell and survived.
The kind of story you don't even need to exagerate to make a good movie.
The Godfather is less about gangsters than it is about family, morality, and America. I would love to see a modern attempt to frame the story of a Mexican cartel family through a prism like The Godfather, but Sicario is a whole other genre.
I'm jealous you got to relive it. Any other classics you haven't seen in ages?
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To be honest I have either not watched or I barely remember the vast majority of classic Hollywood film, never mind the stuff from the rest of the world.
I'll obviously rewatch Godfather 2+3 soon.
Kimota
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Soooo....Ant-Man.
Marvel, Typical.
Crap villain, crap story ridden with cliche bullcrap with daughters and fathers.
But great execution and tons of humor.
People I went to see the movie with thought it was "the best super-hero ever". And while I enjoyed it and the shrinking scene were all fun and clever, it feels so simplistic. Even the best Marvel movies feels like you ate the best candies ever, making you want to throw up by the sweetness. While even super-hero movies could be like eating the best meal, just look at Dark Knight. Feels like Marvel has abandoned the concept of making the best movie that you can period.
Marvel, Typical.
Crap villain, crap story ridden with cliche bullcrap with daughters and fathers.
But great execution and tons of humor.
People I went to see the movie with thought it was "the best super-hero ever". And while I enjoyed it and the shrinking scene were all fun and clever, it feels so simplistic. Even the best Marvel movies feels like you ate the best candies ever, making you want to throw up by the sweetness. While even super-hero movies could be like eating the best meal, just look at Dark Knight. Feels like Marvel has abandoned the concept of making the best movie that you can period.
Kimota
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You should watch The Machine, a 2013 movie about a woman robot. It has similar ideas and it's pretty great and it's more action-packed.
DAChampion
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Edgar Wright left the production after they homogenized his screenplay. I have not bothered to see it.
Marvel's movies are very consistent. They have a lot pf protocols etc that minimize the possibility of awful movies, but I think they also minimize the possibility of great movies. With that said they have a huge following, a lot of otherwise intelligent people practically worship at the altar of the MCU. It's bizarre.
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I finished Godfather Part 2, it's very good (lol), but I think I prefer the first one.
I can't tell if the assassination of Hyman Roth is supposed to reference the Kennedy assassination. They killed the target and then killed the patsy.
I loved Hyman Roth though, I think being Jewish just makes me love him more.
Kay telling Michael that she's had an abortion ... damn, I didn't see that one coming. Great, fantastic scene.
Up next, the internet consensus for absolute worst film in cinematic history (I'm slightly exaggerating), Godfather Part 3.
I can't tell if the assassination of Hyman Roth is supposed to reference the Kennedy assassination. They killed the target and then killed the patsy.
I loved Hyman Roth though, I think being Jewish just makes me love him more.
Kay telling Michael that she's had an abortion ... damn, I didn't see that one coming. Great, fantastic scene.
Up next, the internet consensus for absolute worst film in cinematic history (I'm slightly exaggerating), Godfather Part 3.
ECWHSWI
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#3 isnt bad, it's just a movie they shouldnt have made, the first 2 were just too god it was bound to be a disappointment. Whatever is in #3 was already in the first two in some way (rite de passage, sacrifice for the "family" etc)
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I hope you're right! Going to watch it tonight.
I gotta say, this season hasn't impressed me so far. But knowing TD, there's probably some twists and turns coming before it's all said and done.
hototogisu
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Haven't seen Ant Man but GotG was the movie for me that drove home the "Marvel formula" and it's just what you and Kimota said. They trade on humor and action and minimize risk-taking, innovation or gravitas. It maximizes the idea of "fun" to the point that the film becomes critic-proof - if you liked it, great, join the horde. If you didn't like it, well you're overthinking what's just a fun summer blockbuster, so lighten up.
GotG was reasonably fun, but extremely hollow and formulaic at heart. But it's a movie almost no one would give a bad review to because it is, at the very least, "fun"...hence its whopping 91% RT score.
They certainly have it down to a science, and they keep generating results, both critically and commercially, so why stop now.
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