Management Let's give Don Sweeney credit for Team Canada win

[Dr Hook]

I think a lot of out town fans sees the bruins recent success and gives that credit to Sweeney. let’s see where he goes from here. But you be sure to Let your flyers and Pens friends know that for this years first he’s theirs. Your Minny friend, Buium or take a hike. Hell if he thinks he’s great giving up Buium would be a no-brainer for him, and it Seems fair since we got a 2nd for PC and all he did was win a cup,and built the team the Great Don Sweeney took over

I am just pointing out that he is widely respected around the league and it's pretty much only here that he gets shit on constantly. I'll let others argue how much of the credit he should get the team success.

 

[Bruin4]

I am just pointing out that he is widely respected around the league and it's pretty much only here that he gets shit on constantly. I'll let others argue how much of the credit he should get the team succes.

I know and your a great poster, Just having a little fun, but seriously maybe your friends should come-out of that hot Texas heat a little more often.

 

[Dr Hook]

I know and your a great poster, Just having a little fun, but seriously maybe your friends should come-out of that hot Texas heat a little more often.

Well, two of them are colleagues and have come where the work is and leave when they can lol, the other still lives outside Minny. The other few hockey fans I know here are all in on the Stars and they are more or less happy with their team.

 

[JAD]

Chia built that 2011 Cup winner ,so I will always be grateful to him for that beautiful run.

The foundation for that team was built between 2003 - 2006 ( Bergeron. Krejci,) Chiarelli had no part of that and maybe only insight and approval in the 2006 draft/free agency.
The Bruins Jeff Gorton signed Chara, Savard, traded for Rask, and drafted Kessel, Lucci, Marchand.
It can be debated how much input Chiarelli had on that draft and free agency, but it was actually Gorton who did the work.
So the foundation for the 2011 team was in place before Chiarelli took over.

"The Bruins hired Chiarelli on May 26 to replace interim GM Jeff Gorton, but the NHL ruled that Chiarelli couldn’t start until July 15. That left Gorton running Boston’s draft and signing high-profile free agents such as Chara without being able to consult with the new boss." July 11, 2006 Worcester Telegram and Gazette.
Ottawa released Chiarelli 5 days early on around July 10th.
Gorton was fired by Chiarelli a year later.
People need to remember the Chiarelli's drafting basically sucked year over year until Pastrnak, with the exceptions of the no brainer picks of Seguin and Hamilton, and to a lesser extent Grzelcyk.

Chiarelli did make moves to deepen and sure up the roster for the 2011 cup. That is what he should get credit for.

 

[Dr Hook]

The foundation for that team was built between 2003 - 2006 ( Bergeron. Krejci,) Chiarelli had no part of that and maybe only insight and approval in the 2006 draft/free agency.
The Bruins Jeff Gorton signed Chara, Savard, traded for Rask, and drafted Kessel, Lucci, Marchand.
It can be debated how much input Chiarelli had on that draft and free agency, but it was actually Gorton who did the work.
So the foundation for the 2011 team was in place before Chiarelli took over.

"The Bruins hired Chiarelli on May 26 to replace interim GM Jeff Gorton, but the NHL ruled that Chiarelli couldn’t start until July 15. That left Gorton running Boston’s draft and signing high-profile free agents such as Chara without being able to consult with the new boss." July 11, 2006 Worcester Telegram and Gazette.
Ottawa released Chiarelli 5 days early on around July 10th.
Gorton was fired by Chiarelli a year later.
People need to remember the Chiarelli's drafting basically sucked year over year until Pastrnak, with the exceptions of the no brainer picks of Seguin and Hamilton, and to a lesser extent Grzelcyk.

Chiarelli did make moves to deepen and sure up the roster for the 2011 cup. That is what he should get credit for.

So the past decade of success is pretty much down to MOC?

 

[JAD]

So the past decade of success is pretty much down to MOC?

I forgot to include Thomas as being here before Chiarelli as well ... just saying. Three crucial players to 2011.

 

[Dr Hook]

I forgot to include Thomas as being here before Chiarelli as well ... just saying. Three crucial players to 2011.

Yep, just having some fun with it, because you can follow the chain back a long way. I mean, who hired MOC? Dirty Harry, so maybe he gets some of the credit here too And on an on it goes.

 

[quietbruinfan]

So the past decade of success is pretty much down to MOC?

Oddly, yes lol.......Chia made solid trades to fortify things, but MOC and Gorton built the foundation.

 

[JAD]

Chiarelli inherited a team that was young, raw, and learning. It wasn't until Claude Julien that the team was given direction, structure, and purpose. Chiarelli was like a finish carpenter completing the house that was being built. He traded for or added a number of key players for the 2011 cup ... Horton, Seidenberg, Kelly, Peverley, Thornton, Reccihi, Ryder, McQuaid, Hnidy, and Ference.

Sweeney inherited a mature and aging cap strapped team. With the exception of his initial draft he has done a more than adequate job drafting based upon draft position and number of picks. His free agent signings have been mixed results and the players he has brought in via trades have for the most part prolonged Boston's competitiveness. He has brought the team to one final - 2019 and had put together arguably the best regular season team of the last 48 - 54 years - 2023. I believe we are currently in year two of a 4 - 5 year retool towards contender status again. What moves are made over the next few weeks to five months will be crucial.

 

[McBrom7]

What time does Don talk today? This press conference feels more important than the game last night. I hope they ask him real questions about the deadline.

 

[Score08]

What time does Don talk today? This press conference feels more important than the game last night. I hope they ask him real questions about the deadline.

Wonder if he’s going to fire the coach again, clearly it’s coaching problem, or a players problem. In Sweeneys opinion it’s everyone’s fault except his.

 

[22Brad Park]

The foundation for that team was built between 2003 - 2006 ( Bergeron. Krejci,) Chiarelli had no part of that and maybe only insight and approval in the 2006 draft/free agency.
The Bruins Jeff Gorton signed Chara, Savard, traded for Rask, and drafted Kessel, Lucci, Marchand.
It can be debated how much input Chiarelli had on that draft and free agency, but it was actually Gorton who did the work.
So the foundation for the 2011 team was in place before Chiarelli took over.

"The Bruins hired Chiarelli on May 26 to replace interim GM Jeff Gorton, but the NHL ruled that Chiarelli couldn’t start until July 15. That left Gorton running Boston’s draft and signing high-profile free agents such as Chara without being able to consult with the new boss." July 11, 2006 Worcester Telegram and Gazette.
Ottawa released Chiarelli 5 days early on around July 10th.
Gorton was fired by Chiarelli a year later.
People need to remember the Chiarelli's drafting basically sucked year over year until Pastrnak, with the exceptions of the no brainer picks of Seguin and Hamilton, and to a lesser extent Grzelcyk.

Chiarelli did make moves to deepen and sure up the roster for the 2011 cup. That is what he should get credit for.

Chiarelli definitely had a say in taking Chara and this is a nice bit of work by you breaking things down.Gorton has not done much since then and neither has Chiarelli,but both are smarter then Sweeney far as putting good players out there.

 

[ODAAT]

What time does Don talk today? This press conference feels more important than the game last night. I hope they ask him real questions about the deadline.

hope he is resigning but knowing the B`s, he`s getting an 8 year extension

 

[GoBs]

Sweeney’s biggest mistake was not the signings this year. By far firing Cassidy was the big problem. If he had the team from a couple years ago they win a cup. I was one who blamed Cassidy for some of the young guys not progressing but nothing has changed. Hindsight is 20/20.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

2015 draft says hi.

Literally generationally bad 1st round. You have to go back to 2006 to find the worst selections for those three picks.

In addition the wrong player was selected in 2017 with a falling Vaak.

It took 10 years, but the chickens have come home to roost and they all have Avian Flu..

 

[Absurdity]

 

[Gordoff]

firing sweeney on a friday night after a big event would be very bruins so fingers crossed. unfortunately this probably bought him 10 more years

Or.... He's named Director of (insert prestigious title here) of Team Canada's Olympic (and similar) team. He resigns as Bruins GM and nobody looks foolish, not Jacobs for moving on, not Sweeney for moving on to "greener pastures."

 

[UncleRico]

The foundation for that team was built between 2003 - 2006 ( Bergeron. Krejci,) Chiarelli had no part of that and maybe only insight and approval in the 2006 draft/free agency.
The Bruins Jeff Gorton signed Chara, Savard, traded for Rask, and drafted Kessel, Lucci, Marchand.
It can be debated how much input Chiarelli had on that draft and free agency, but it was actually Gorton who did the work.
So the foundation for the 2011 team was in place before Chiarelli took over.

"The Bruins hired Chiarelli on May 26 to replace interim GM Jeff Gorton, but the NHL ruled that Chiarelli couldn’t start until July 15. That left Gorton running Boston’s draft and signing high-profile free agents such as Chara without being able to consult with the new boss." July 11, 2006 Worcester Telegram and Gazette.
Ottawa released Chiarelli 5 days early on around July 10th.
Gorton was fired by Chiarelli a year later.
People need to remember the Chiarelli's drafting basically sucked year over year until Pastrnak, with the exceptions of the no brainer picks of Seguin and Hamilton, and to a lesser extent Grzelcyk.

Chiarelli did make moves to deepen and sure up the roster for the 2011 cup. That is what he should get credit for.

So you give Jeff Gorton credit for chara and you don’t think chiarelli, who had just spent the past few season in ottawa with zdeno chara, had nothing to do with his signing?

Come on.

Chiarelli made some great moves especially brining in guys like seidenberg, Horton, iginla, recchi, Ference, peverly, Ryder.

It’s amazing to me that people truly believe guys like savard and chara were Gorton doing. To believe tue organization was going to let savard and chara sign massive long term deals without the direction or approval of the incoming GM is crazy.

 

[EverettMike]

So you give Jeff Gorton credit for chara and you don’t think chiarelli, who had just spent the past few season in ottawa with zdeno chara, had nothing to do with his signing?

Come on.

Chiarelli made some great moves especially brining in guys like seidenberg, Horton, iginla, recchi, Ference, peverly, Ryder.

It’s amazing to me that people truly believe guys like savard and chara were Gorton doing. To believe tue organization was going to let savard and chara sign massive long term deals without the direction or approval of the incoming GM is crazy.

Absolutely insane to think the Bruins let an interim GM who would have the job for like 6 weeks, make two gigantic free agent signings without the GM-in-waiting being the one making those calls.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

The foundation for that team was built between 2003 - 2006 ( Bergeron. Krejci,) Chiarelli had no part of that and maybe only insight and approval in the 2006 draft/free agency.
The Bruins Jeff Gorton signed Chara, Savard, traded for Rask, and drafted Kessel, Lucci, Marchand.
It can be debated how much input Chiarelli had on that draft and free agency, but it was actually Gorton who did the work.
So the foundation for the 2011 team was in place before Chiarelli took over.

"The Bruins hired Chiarelli on May 26 to replace interim GM Jeff Gorton, but the NHL ruled that Chiarelli couldn’t start until July 15. That left Gorton running Boston’s draft and signing high-profile free agents such as Chara without being able to consult with the new boss." July 11, 2006 Worcester Telegram and Gazette.
Ottawa released Chiarelli 5 days early on around July 10th.
Gorton was fired by Chiarelli a year later.
People need to remember the Chiarelli's drafting basically sucked year over year until Pastrnak, with the exceptions of the no brainer picks of Seguin and Hamilton, and to a lesser extent Grzelcyk.

Chiarelli did make moves to deepen and sure up the roster for the 2011 cup. That is what he should get credit for.

Chara and Savard were Chiarelli despite being stuck in Ottawa. No team, let alone Jacobs is letting an interim GM spend 35% of the cap on 2 players after he's hired his new GM.

Also Chiarelli brought in Horton, Seidenberg, Boychuk, Ference, McQuaid, Peverley, Recchi, Thornton, Ryder, Seguin and Julien

 

[JAD]

So you give Jeff Gorton credit for chara and you don’t think chiarelli, who had just spent the past few season in ottawa with zdeno chara, had nothing to do with his signing?

Come on.

Chiarelli made some great moves especially brining in guys like seidenberg, Horton, iginla, recchi, Ference, peverly, Ryder.

It’s amazing to me that people truly believe guys like savard and chara were Gorton doing. To believe tue organization was going to let savard and chara sign massive long term deals without the direction or approval of the incoming GM is crazy.

Chara and Savard were Chiarelli despite being stuck in Ottawa. No team, let alone Jacobs is letting an interim GM spend 35% of the cap on 2 players after he's hired his new GM.

Also Chiarelli brought in Horton, Seidenberg, Boychuk, Ference, McQuaid, Peverley, Recchi, Thornton, Ryder, Seguin and Julien

I am sure during the course of the interviews with Boston Chiarelli told Bruins officials whom he would target in free agency, and his other plans for how he would rebuild, continue to build the team. I'm sure this contributed to Boston hiring him. But Boston was told by the league that Chiarelli still had to finish his contract with Ottawa until July 15th. That he could not work for Boston until then.

Boston hired Chiarelli knowing what his suggestions and targets would be, but someone else actually had to execute the plan until Chiarelli would be able to take over. Which is why I said he had given insight and approval to certain things.

Do you really think that the Jacobs would risk penalties - fines, possible loss of draft picks by violating league rules? Do you think Chiarelli would want to risk his first GM gig by getting caught? If they did violate league rules and got away with it, well, that sounds like cheating and conspiracy theory. Did they ever say they did? Because I don't recall.

As far as the players he brought in later, I mentioned those players in a later post. Chiarelli's time in Boston was not without his own mistakes, i.e. Dave Lewis, to name one early on. Thank God, for Claude Julien.

Sweeney made mistakes early on too, but has since done a very good job with what he's had to work with. People want to jump all over him for those early mistake but seldom give him credit for the good things he has done. I guess winning a cup covers a multitude of sins. He has put together two, possibly three, cup worthy teams since he took over. Lack of a cup hurts, but doesn't mean he hasn't been successful otherwise at what he does.

 

[Gordoff]

For better or worse we're going to see over the next several months what Don Sweeney is made of. Hold on tight, it's going to be a rocky ride.

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

Literally generationally bad 1st round. You have to go back to 2006 to find the worst selections for those three picks.

In addition the wrong player was selected in 2017 with a falling Vaak.

It took 10 years, but the chickens have come home to roost and they all have Avian Flu..

Plus this:

Bruins Signing Elias Lindholm Proving to Be a Costly Mistake - The Hockey Writers Latest News, Analysis & More

The Boston Bruins made a costly gamble when they signed Elias Lindholm to a long contract this offseason; one that seems unlikely to pay off.

thehockeywriters.com

Sweeney’s a dope. Sad to see so many here carrying water for him.

 

[Score08]

Plus this:

Bruins Signing Elias Lindholm Proving to Be a Costly Mistake - The Hockey Writers Latest News, Analysis & More

The Boston Bruins made a costly gamble when they signed Elias Lindholm to a long contract this offseason; one that seems unlikely to pay off.

thehockeywriters.com

Sweeney’s a dope. Sad to see so many here carrying water for him.

It’s Boston fandom brain rot. Incapable of being critical of their own team. Especially if it’s a local personality, the mental gymnastics that ensues is unbearable.

 

[EverettMike]

I am sure during the course of the interviews with Boston Chiarelli told Bruins officials whom he would target in free agency, and his other plans for how he would rebuild, continue to build the team. I'm sure this contributed to Boston hiring him. But Boston was told by the league that Chiarelli still had to finish his contract with Ottawa until July 15th. That he could not work for Boston until then.

Boston hired Chiarelli knowing what his suggestions and targets would be, but someone else actually had to execute the plan until Chiarelli would be able to take over. Which is why I said he had given insight and approval to certain things.

Do you really think that the Jacobs would risk penalties - fines, possible loss of draft picks by violating league rules? Do you think Chiarelli would want to risk his first GM gig by getting caught? If they did violate league rules and got away with it, well, that sounds like cheating and conspiracy theory. Did they ever say they did? Because I don't recall.

As far as the players he brought in later, I mentioned those players in a later post. Chiarelli's time in Boston was not without his own mistakes, i.e. Dave Lewis, to name one early on. Thank God, for Claude Julien.

Sweeney made mistakes early on too, but has since done a very good job with what he's had to work with. People want to jump all over him for those early mistake but seldom give him credit for the good things he has done. I guess winning a cup covers a multitude of sins. He has put together two, possibly three, cup worthy teams since he took over. Lack of a cup hurts, but doesn't mean he hasn't been successful otherwise at what he does.