jukon
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Every damn thread is 'Nurse 9M blah blah blah'. Get over it. He got paid and he ain't going anywhere.
Player Discussion Leon Draisaitl's next contract
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McDavid getting his market value isn't being "obsessed with money", he would do what anybody in their career would do which is maximizing career earnings. This is his job and, yes, I know there's a difference between McDavid's generational wealth and some regular person but it's the same general principle. McDavid also generates a shit ton more revenue for his business than a regular person does so it's all relative.
Also, the reality is that McDavid taking something like 8 years $15m IS a sizeable discount. He can make up to possibly $20m/yr if he really wanted to be greedy depending on how high the cap rises when his next contract kicks in so any realistic deal he signs is a sizeable discount.
It's up to management to navigate the cap situation, not the players.
You're insinuating that McDavid should take Hyman/RNH money for the next 3 years, that's absurd.
That would be a shock but would be huge for their cup chances. That's about $5m/yr less than I think the trio will realistically sign for.
The bolded I'll just let go haha
jukon
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Oilers are on hiatus for the royal wedding. Doubt business has started back up yet.Every day new signing yet Draisaitl just sitting there stewiing
Yet everyone already been saying contract was signed amd sealed weeks ago
Every time i get a score notification i get excited followed by immediately disappoint
Juxta Position
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You're on the wrong board for that kind of nonsense son.
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I won't speculate on what Drats is going to get paid, because tbh I don't really care.
If he gets paid 11.5 or 13.5m, I'm just happy he is re signing early and not dragging this on and making it dramatic. It also makes me think McDavid will also be re signing long term.
If he gets paid 11.5 or 13.5m, I'm just happy he is re signing early and not dragging this on and making it dramatic. It also makes me think McDavid will also be re signing long term.
CantHaveTkachev
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Stauffer is guessing like usual
But Nurse actually has to get traded if they want to keep Bouchard long term. You cannot have 2 dmen making 20M- especially one who had the least amount of minutes 5 v 5 in critical Oilers games (the playoffs)
jukon
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If reports are to be believed, Drai and Connor's brother were both his 'best men/man' at the wedding. If Drai stays, Connor stays.
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The Oilers can certainly keep both if the cap rises as expected. They are actually in pretty decent shape cap wise once they get over the 2025-26 hurdle.
CantHaveTkachev
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educated wish
Another stat I saw is most star players signing their 3rd contracts are taking 15% of the cap which would put Drai at 13.2 million. This is full value. The 14 million is like Matthews taking 15.9 % of the cap aka the highest end.
13.5 is no discount. Does Drai deserve more than McKinnon who just signed last year at 12.6 and is 3 years younger than him? I would argue this is his max value.
Only AM makes over 13, only 2 players make over 12, Mackinnon/MCd, all the others under 11.6 mil. All signed much younger than Drai. All those players are the best on their respective teams, Drai is 2nd best on ours. If Drai was our best player without McD he would be on par with those players making the 10's and 11's. Aho whom is a great player makes under 10 mil and Canes just signed him.
www.spotrac.com/nhl/contracts/_/sort/average/dir/desc
That's why my 11.4-12.5 isn't out of reach. And it's not really wishful thinking, if Drai's value is 13.2, 12.5 is in essence a small discount. 11.4 put's him in the pack of other stars. Yes the cap went up 4 million going into next season but Drai is 3-4+ years older than the other star players.
AM is 4 years younger and only signed for 4 yrs so his AAV is higher naturally. If AM signed for 7-8 years he would be making a million + less. But he's taking a chance at one more big contract at the age of 31. Drai will be 37-38 when his contract expires. You can see the effects of Tavares still good but declining and he signed his 7yr deal at 27.
Makes no sense to make Drai the highest paid player next year then McD the highest paid the following year. Doubt this has even been done in league history and not a recipe for success. So there is my argument for Drai at between 11-12mil.
13.5 is no discount. Does Drai deserve more than McKinnon who just signed last year at 12.6 and is 3 years younger than him? I would argue this is his max value.
Only AM makes over 13, only 2 players make over 12, Mackinnon/MCd, all the others under 11.6 mil. All signed much younger than Drai. All those players are the best on their respective teams, Drai is 2nd best on ours. If Drai was our best player without McD he would be on par with those players making the 10's and 11's. Aho whom is a great player makes under 10 mil and Canes just signed him.
www.spotrac.com/nhl/contracts/_/sort/average/dir/desc
That's why my 11.4-12.5 isn't out of reach. And it's not really wishful thinking, if Drai's value is 13.2, 12.5 is in essence a small discount. 11.4 put's him in the pack of other stars. Yes the cap went up 4 million going into next season but Drai is 3-4+ years older than the other star players.
AM is 4 years younger and only signed for 4 yrs so his AAV is higher naturally. If AM signed for 7-8 years he would be making a million + less. But he's taking a chance at one more big contract at the age of 31. Drai will be 37-38 when his contract expires. You can see the effects of Tavares still good but declining and he signed his 7yr deal at 27.
Makes no sense to make Drai the highest paid player next year then McD the highest paid the following year. Doubt this has even been done in league history and not a recipe for success. So there is my argument for Drai at between 11-12mil.
Not only that but Drai's fiance is also super close to McDavid's now wife. She was one of the maid of honors for Lauren at the wedding, they even take trips together without the guys. So they're basically family at this point.
I agree that MacKinnon's deal should be the high bar. Similarly, McKinnon also played on a discount deal for many years prior to signing his retirement deal.
CantHaveTkachev
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Not sure why Rishaug felt compelled to tweet this but he did
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He loves breaking bad news. I’m sure he’d be the first one to report if negotiations started to go south.
Not far enough in the past for him and his agent to not know what was coming as soon as the second year of his deal. The fast cap escalations starting this season have been telegraphed for years, it's been common knowledge.
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You have to think that there are handshake deals that occur. I certainly think that Duncan Keith's player development role was certainly predicated on him retiring so the Oilers could save on the cap.
(Did we hear of one thing Keith did in 2022-23 to earn his Player Development role salary? He isn't on the page now. Was he ever? Did they fire him? Did he even run 1 skill session? Maybe he works for the Condors? Not on their site)
So not allowed, but not always pursued.
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