Player Discussion Leo Carlsson

[ohcomeonref]

Barkov points comp is fine, how was Barkovs defense early on? Genuinely have no idea

 

[Leonardo87]

Needs 14 points in the next 19 games to match last year's stats.

Could see him having 25 points down the stretch, if Zegras gets back on his line and somehow the PP gets going. Could end up with maybe around 40, which is a very solid season for a 20 yo.

But He ain’t producing on that current line even when he is playing well. Cronin has totally neutered his offense like Zegras before him.

 

[tomd]

The talent is there but the production is not. IMO he hasn't learned to play yet with the intensity required to succeed in the NHL. Hopefully he develops that as he physically and mentally matures.

 

[Mr Rogers]

I think the upcoming break and playing with the Swedish team will be really big for Leo.

 

[FiveTacos]

I didn't know Getzlaf was still in juniors at 19/20 yo. I started following the team around their 20th anniversary.

That really makes me feel better now about Leo's path of development. Also to note that Barkov only had 36 points in his 2nd NHL season at Leo's current age.

Getz's game also translated well to the NHL. He didn't have a lot of "editing" to do to his game in the way that, say, Perry did, who had a more successful junior career but did a lot of things that weren't going to be as easy to pull off in the NHL. Nearly everything about Getz was tailor made for the NHL, he just had to keep honing what he already did and just focus on doing it better, there was hardly anything he had to unlearn. Perry OTOH kept doing all sorts of stuff that just wasn't gonna work against NHL defenders. Like Leo, he had a ton of "almost" plays in those first few years.

I'd say Leo's game is somewhere between those two in terms of ease of translation, IMO. He's not guaranteed to ever put it together of course, but his 19/20 season is way too early to worry about it.

Also note just how few 20 and unders typically are putting up significant production (like 40+ points). It's not many, most years you can count them on one hand.

 

[Ducks DVM]

I think the upcoming break and playing with the Swedish team will be really big for Leo.

It’ll be nice to see how he looks with some talent around him.

 

[70sSanO]

This won’t happen, but when Zegras gets back I’d like to move Leo to wing for a while. Have Zegras center the line.

Carlsson seems to be forcing the play too much and losing the puck. Let Zegras take on the responsibility and Leo can focus on shooting and passing when he wants.

Leo will be our #1 center, but for now it might be better to give him some slack to find his game.

John

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

That was one of his better games lately. Had some nice chances.

 

[MMC]

Looking forward to seeing what a line of Zegras-Carlsson-Colangelo can do. If the Terry line can keep rolling and Gauthier and McTavish continue to develop chemistry our offense should hopefully start to be more consistent

 

[Kalv]

#4 overall Smith who should be just as a long term project, now has more points than Leo this season.
Fantilli obviously has more than Leo too.

 

[Leonardo87]

#4 overall Smith who should be just as a long term project, now has more points than Leo this season.
Fantilli obviously has more than Leo too.

Leo is 3rd in goals on the Ducks. Fantilli is 6th in goals, and Smith is 8th in goals on their respected teams. Has also played less games than them.

Ducks have a 12.5% PP, Sharks have a 17.9%, and Columbus has a 23.1% PP

Ducks are dead last in the league with a 2.37 G/GP and 109 GF
San Jose has a 2.55 G/GP and 125 GF
Columbus has a 3.26 G/GP and 153 GF

Would Love to see how much Adam and Will can produce on this Ducks team.

 

[Kalv]

Leo is 3rd in goals on the Ducks. Fantilli is 6th in goals, and Smith is 8th in goals on their respected teams. Has also played less games than them.

Ducks have a 12.5% PP, Sharks have a 17.9%, and Columbus has a 23.1% PP

Ducks are dead last in the league with a 2.37 G/GP and 109 GF
San Jose has a 2.55 G/GP and 125 GF
Columbus has a 3.26 G/GP and 153 GF

Would Love to see how much Adam and Will can produce on this Ducks team.

Yes, I also think Leo has the best 2 way potential of them.

But it matters nothing as long as we're wasting his development. Sorry for yet another whiny post from me :/ but just wanted to point out the fact itself (Smith has more points than Leo)

 

[Leonardo87]

Yes, I also think Leo has the best 2 way potential of them.

But it matters nothing as long as we're wasting his development. Sorry for yet another whiny post from me :/ but just wanted to point out the fact itself (Smith has more points than Leo)

I'm not happy about his production either, but look at the team and coach he is playing for. One good thing , He is already miles better defensively than all his forward draft peers, and is more responsible in his own zone than most of the Ducks forwards. They really should let him kill some penalties. PK is bottom 5 now, so can't get much worse.

 

[ohcomeonref]

#4 overall Smith who should be just as a long term project, now has more points than Leo this season.
Fantilli obviously has more than Leo too.

It hurts dude. You are allowed to say Carlsson isn't doing well.

 

[ScarTroy]

Yeah we can only make so many excuses for Leo. Yes he’s young, yes his linemates aren’t the best. At the sane time though, yes he needs to stop passing up the middle to the other team, yes he needs to learn that on a rush a 3 foot drop pass and not getting yourself open helps nobody. He needs to be better. I’m not worried long term, but short term he has his own figuring out to do, because new linemates won’t fix all of his current shortcomings.