Lecavalier Bought Out - A Good Fit?

[Punchbowl]

Lecavalier isn't a good fit for Ottawa because we don't have a gaping hole at centre to validate offering him a huge contract (or the money) and other teams are likely more appealing to Vinny. I think he'll end up in Florida or Montreal, with an outside chance he signs a short term deal with someone else and then immediately re-signs with Tampa when his contract is up.

In the second case, a team is likely going to give him $12M over two years or something, which the Sens still can't afford. This isn't the FA signing I think Murray/Melnyk talk about when they say they'll go all in at the right time for the right guys.

 

[MtRundle]

Redundancy, also known as depth, wins championships.

No doubt- how about adding some redundancy on wing and D to match the depth we have on centre already.

 

[Savannah Skunk]

Redundancy, also known as depth, wins championships.

I could definitely see Lecavalier in Senators red next fall. If the case was him playing in a Canadian market, Ottawa makes the most sense.

Vinny will go to a team where he is the top dog at centre Served up with a juicy contract. Sorry, but the sens are not that team. Perhaps managements allocation of resources is a bit more shrewd as we are not the ones forking over tens of millions of dollars trying to get rid of said star player.

 

[Rumcajs]

No doubt- how about adding some redundancy on wing and D to match the depth we have on centre already.

Both are a different thread but having a great center can make any winger better.

 

[bert]

No doubt- how about adding some redundancy on wing and D to match the depth we have on centre already.

Well the beauty thing about centerman is that they are centermen, they can transition to the wing a lot better then wingers that transition to center. See example - Bruins Boston they dressed on a regular basis 6 centermen. Krejci, Bergeron, Kelly, Peverley, Seguin and Campbell. Campbell gets hurt they slide a scoring winger into Peverley's spot he takes 4th line center and they continue to roll a balanced 4 line attack.

When Spezza is hurt there is a giant gaping hole at center, we have 48 games of proof Turris cant handle the first line job and Zibanejad cant handle second line. The fact of the matter is Spezza is getting up there and has serious back and other injury problems. By signing Lecavalier it opens up so many options for this team, not to mention a top line guy that is a left handed shot. Spezza, Turris, Zibanejad all righties this creates a harder matchup for other teams if Vinny is in the lineup.

Plus it makes unmovable assets moveable, to address other deficiencies in the lineup if need be.

A second line of Conacher Lecavalier Alfredsson would look real good matching up against other teams 2nd 3rd and 4th lines.

 

[Sun God Nika]

He's not coming here thats all folks...

 

[aragorn]

While it would be interesting to see Lecavalier in Ottawa my guess his best destination would be with the Florida Panthers. Lecavalier loves playing in TB/Florida & he could stay fairly close to where he lives now by signing with the Panthers.

Florida could use a #1 centre especially if Weise does not re-sign & Lecavalier could mentor Huberdeau & bring some much needed leadership to the Panthers. Florida has the cap space & depending on what Lecavalier might command on the market, I would think it would be $5 mil or less, not more, either way Florida can afford it.

 

[MainDotC]

I think this thread should be more of a poll just to see what the majority consensus is. I would love Lecavalier to come to Ottawa and MacLean will deal with the lineup changes accordingly - move one of the centres to the wing if necessary. However, as previously stated, it's unlikely. All of our discussion and analytic skills will have no bearing on what will actually happen. We'll see where he goes!

 

[McManked]

And you are painting a picture where the other 28 teams are brain dead who don't care about recent history and will gladly throw whatever insane length and annual salary at him, and that isn't the case.

Because it's the truth.



It's a much more plausible scenario to have one out of twenty eight GMs through out a crazy offer than the Sens getting him, your call-out doesn't make much sense to me.

And I don't think I made it seem like it would be "whatever length or cap". Obviously I meant within reason.

Maybe its your abrasive dismissal of a completely reasonable idea worthy of debate on a message board where people discuss hockey?

I don't know how you know that he doesn't want to come here. Now I have no reason or proof that he does or doesn't but to blindly suggest that he doesn't without any real knowledge of his personal feelings on where he wants to go may get a rise out of people.

What I do know is that Ottawa has a lot of cap space, needs scoring and a veteran presence that knows how to win. Ottawa has a francophone market and a young and up and coming team. Only a few teams have the cap space to sign him and Ottawa is one of those teams and on top of that one of the more competitive. I get the sense that he likes it in Florida due to the fact he did sign that long term contract, if I were a betting man id bet he goes to the Panthers but that doesn't mean the sens aren't on his list.

If you're referring to the poster I think you are (I'm not sure), my abrasive response was due to the way he worded his original message and what he called me (which was edited by a mod because it wasn't appropriate).

If you've read the thread (which of course I don't blame you if you haven't, it's almost 100 posts) you would find that I already responded to what your question is asking. I obviously can't say that he won't come here, but I'm tempering expectations. I guess I just hate when people see something like this and then go "WOW WE CAN SIGN THIS GUY AND THEN WE CAN TRADE ZIBANEJAD AND THEN ACQUIRE LETANG AND THEN...". We don't know what's happening inside Vinny's mind, but I think it's way more realistic to think that he wouldn't be looking at Ottawa unless the $$$ was too good to pass.

As for you saying it's "blind" in what I'm suggesting, I disagree. That's what speculation and discussion is. You're accusing me of what I'm doing on a message board, but I'm not allowed to do the same? It's entirely reasonable for me to think that Vinny wouldn't have an interest in Ottawa even if I don't have a shred of evidence to prove it. That's what a message board is.

 

[John Holmes*]

In the second case, a team is likely going to give him $12M over two years or something, which the Sens still can't afford. This isn't the FA signing I think Murray/Melnyk talk about when they say they'll go all in at the right time for the right guys.

Seems to me that we just traded away a guy making $5.5 Million. Now we can't afford $6 M?

 

[OmniSens]

He's surely Montreal bound. I wouldn't want to diminish Zibanejad and Turris 'icetime either.

 

[Hossa18]

There was a report that a player agent said expect Vinny to sign a 1yr contract with some team and then go back to TB next year. With that being said, other than budget what is to stop B. Murray from signing Vinny for 1 yr deal at a cheap cost and sell him on the fact that they are going to stack the team to try to get Alfie a cup. He could then tell Turris to bite the bullet for 1 year and play 3rd line center. If the rumoured deal of Hemsky coming to Ottawa for Smith is true, our lineup would look something like this:


Michalek Spezza Hemsky

Zibanejad Lecavallier Alfredsson

Greening Turris Silfverberg

Condra Pageau Neil


Tell me that's not sick!!! We could then use many of our other prospects to get a top 4 dman..........Stanley Cup here we come

 

[Canadian Time]

Seems to me that we just traded away a guy making $5.5 Million. Now we can't afford $6 M?

Pretty hard to resist having a big centre like Vinny, he'd be great to have. If I had to pick based on need, I'd like to see them try to sign Iggy.

 

[Senateurs]

Very good fit.

Good size, plays centre, only 33, shoots left which we desperatly need and has stanley cup experience.

Spezza, VL, Zibby would be the best centre line in the league.

I'd sign him for 4 years 4.5 to 5.5M$

 

[McManked]

Seems to me that we just traded away a guy making $5.5 Million. Now we can't afford $6 M?

Well we also have a hold at #2 RD that we'd like to address.

I'm all for offering Vinny a 2 year 13 million dollar contract, but I don't think Melnyk is.

 

[RedWhiteBlackGold]

I don't get the whole "he's a french quebecer so he's going to sign with the Habs" theory people seem to think...we don't know him. I think its more likely he ends up in the Western Conference or remains in US.

 

[McManked]

I don't get the whole "he's a french quebecer so he's going to sign with the Habs" theory people seem to think...we don't know him. I think its more likely he ends up in the Western Conference or remains in US.

I think it's because of the apparent mutual interest that has existed for years between the two (at least the Habs).

 

[RedWhiteBlackGold]

I think it's because of the apparent mutual interest that has existed for years between the two (at least the Habs).

I know a lot of Habs fans back then wanted him and perhaps the organization had interest. However a lot has changed since then..so other than the fans still wanting him (like 28 other clubs), there shouldn't be much merit behind Montreal being the likely destination other than his french roots.

 

[McManked]

I know a lot of Habs fans back then wanted him and perhaps the organization had interest. However a lot has changed since then..so other than the fans still wanting him (like 28 other clubs), there shouldn't be much merit behind Montreal being the likely destination other than his french roots.

Agreed, but it's something to grasp.

Just like we try to separate ourselves from the other teams interested in Briere by saying that he grew up in the area. It's not always true, but it's a factor.

 

[YNWA14]

I don't get the whole "he's a french quebecer so he's going to sign with the Habs" theory people seem to think...we don't know him. I think its more likely he ends up in the Western Conference or remains in US.

“How would it be to play for the Montreal Canadiens? It would be great, but after 10 years spent in Tampa, in my mind, I want to stay here.” – Vincent Lecavalier

I think that it just comes down to it being his favorite team, them pursuing him for so long, and money not really being an object anymore with his buy-out. On top of which Montreal is a team on the upswing so he will have a good chance at the post-season for the foreseeable future and a potential 2nd cup.

They're really a perfect fit when you look at the most obvious stuff. However, it is hockey and it doesn't always work that way...although I liken it to Richards and New York at the time. It just made sense.

 

[Stylizer1]

Vinny is the 2nd line center we need to make a run and not Turris. Turris still has some growing to do and will be valuable still on the third line.

If we add Briere and Vinny those would be the type of vets who put us in a position to win the east.

 

[Sun God Nika]

There was a report that a player agent said expect Vinny to sign a 1yr contract with some team and then go back to TB next year. With that being said, other than budget what is to stop B. Murray from signing Vinny for 1 yr deal at a cheap cost and sell him on the fact that they are going to stack the team to try to get Alfie a cup. He could then tell Turris to bite the bullet for 1 year and play 3rd line center. If the rumoured deal of Hemsky coming to Ottawa for Smith is true, our lineup would look something like this:


Michalek Spezza Hemsky

Zibanejad Lecavallier Alfredsson

Greening Turris Silfverberg

Condra Pageau Neil


Tell me that's not sick!!! We could then use many of our other prospects to get a top 4 dman..........Stanley Cup here we come

Lecavallier needs an elite playmaker C to play with so swap hemsky with alfie, the swap alfie with Silf

Michakek - Spezza - Silfverberg , gives one of the leagues best playmakers the oppertunity to play with two amaazing snipers.

Greening - Lecav - Hemsky allows one of the leagues top snipers to play with an amazing playmaker, greening adds protection to two weak players, and some grit to a skill line and overall a pretty fast line aswell

Zibby - Turris - Alfredsson we already saw turris play great in a second line role, now imagine him playing even lesser competition with more development, Zibby also grew alot and can continue to play the same competition as last year, and add alfie to the third line aswell its deadly...

theres three effective scoring lines that should win us the stanley cup with Maclean behind the bench and lehner/andy in net..


now with all that said the rumours of hemsky coming to ottawa are most likely falce and lecav wont sign here, so i am only dreaming...

 

[RedWhiteBlackGold]

“How would it be to play for the Montreal Canadiens? It would be great, but after 10 years spent in Tampa, in my mind, I want to stay here.†– Vincent Lecavalier

I think that it just comes down to it being his favorite team, them pursuing him for so long, and money not really being an object anymore with his buy-out. On top of which Montreal is a team on the upswing so he will have a good chance at the post-season for the foreseeable future and a potential 2nd cup.

Montreal was Crosby's favorite team growing up. Does that mean in 9 years when his contract is up that Montreal is the front runner in signing him? As well tell me any player that said something bad about a team wanting to trade for him/sign him.

 

[YNWA14]

Montreal was Crosby's favorite team growing up. Does that mean in 9 years when his contract is up that Montreal is the front runner in signing him? As well tell me any player that said something bad about a team wanting to trade for him/sign him.

There's a difference between being bought out and unable to play for the team you've been with your whole career like Vinny, and just having your contract come up.

 

[Powdered Toast Man]

Lecavallier needs an elite playmaker C to play with so swap hemsky with alfie, the swap alfie with Silf

Michakek - Spezza - Silfverberg , gives one of the leagues best playmakers the oppertunity to play with two amaazing snipers.

Greening - Lecav - Hemsky allows one of the leagues top snipers to play with an amazing playmaker, greening adds protection to two weak players, and some grit to a skill line and overall a pretty fast line aswell

Zibby - Turris - Alfredsson we already saw turris play great in a second line role, now imagine him playing even lesser competition with more development, Zibby also grew alot and can continue to play the same competition as last year, and add alfie to the third line aswell its deadly...

theres three effective scoring lines that should win us the stanley cup with Maclean behind the bench and lehner/andy in net..


now with all that said the rumours of hemsky coming to ottawa are most likely falce and lecav wont sign here, so i am only dreaming...

We're not trading Conacher, we just traded for him.